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8/18: It Was 20 Years Ago Today

Discussion in '2018 Yankees Game Threads' started by jon abbey, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Today is the day NY is celebrating the amazing 1998 team, best Yankee team in my lifetime. In keeping with the song, August 18 happened to be the day that their regular season record peaked, a 3-2 win in 13 innings against KC left them at a ridiculous 92-30.

    After that fun ends, we get the next chapter in the saga of Luis Severino trying to regain his elite level matched against rookie Sean Reid-Foley making his second career start, just called up this week.

    1 PM, presumably the festivities start earlier.
     
  2. terrynever

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    In my lifetime, it's almost a dead heat -- 1961 vs. 1998. I understand modern athletes are bigger, faster, throw harder, but nobody was faster than the young Mantle and even the two giants on this year's team do not hit the ball farther than Mick did. Ask Bill Fischer. If you could.
    The 1961 Yanks were a big team. Ellie Howard was a big catcher. Skowron was a strong man at first base, one of the first opposite-field home run hitters. Richardson was a midget at second but Kubek at short stood over six feet. Clete Boyer at third, another big guy. Six foot and 180 after he matured.
    The infield defense that season was superb.
    Berra and Hector Lopez shared left. Mantle in center. Maris in right. Roger was a gifted athlete who could play center very well. Big arm in right field.
    I think Whitey Ford would have tied today's hitters in knots. But pitching would be the weakness of the 1961 team in a mythical matchup.
    The closer was a piece of work. Luis Arroyo, a 5-foot-8 Cuban who threw a screwball that nobody could hit, especially righthanders. 47 saves that year.
    The 1998 bullpen gives Jon's boys an edge. Mariano at the height of his game against Mantle and Maris. Mick would have said, as he did of Koufax, "How can anyone hit this shit?"
     
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  3. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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  4. Al Zarilla

    Al Zarilla Member SoSH Member

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    That was a great Yankee team. 61 in 61. I assume you watched “61” and what did you think of it? I had to look up who they played in the World Series...the Reds, who had Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson on offense and not a whole lot else (Wally Post). My god though, Dick Gernert was on that team, another in a line of big RHH the Sox had high hopes of demolishing the green monster that didn’t do nearly enough. Reds top two pitchers were Jim O’Toole and Joey Jay, who had career years, but we’re pretty average otherwise. If you’d had Maris in 1960, Mazeroski is probably just another second baseman today.
     
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  5. terrynever

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    You're getting old, Al. Maris was there for 1960 and I think he won MVP.
    I liked '61,' mostly because Thomas Jane and Barry Pepper were believable as Mantle and Maris. Mantle's widow had a panic attack when Billy Crystal introduced her to Jane.
    1960 was when I learned that the most talented team doesn't always win. It was a great lesson to learn as a 13-year-old.
     
  6. Al Zarilla

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    Son of a gun, he was. Just warming up for 1961 (actually had a better BWAR in 1960 than in 1961). Roger back to back MVPs. Forgot that too.

    I am getting old. I watched Mazeroski’s game 7 winner in real time (afternoon game) after school.
     
  7. crow216

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    Ugh...what's up with Knoblauch? Doesn't look like he's doing well.
     
  8. terrynever

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    My transistor radio got confiscated in science class in the second inning. Got it back when school ended at 3:35. Turned it on to hear Chuck Thompson's call at 3:36.
    Afternoon World Series games was pure insanity. Nobody could watch. I did use two sick days but my mom drew the line on Game 7. My dad was in Pittsburgh!
     
  9. crow216

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    Severino back?
     
  10. terrynever

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    Bird swings through a couple hittable, quite ordinary, fastballs and strikes out. Most young hitters kill hard stuff. Not Greg Bird.
     
  11. Couperin47

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    Bird is not the answer at first
     
  12. crow216

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    The yankees have dramatically improved their ability to hold runners after the Sox series. I think they've picked off 3 or 4 in the past week.
     
  13. terrynever

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    They do have options. Nothing immediate.
     
  14. Couperin47

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    the Jays are cooperating in making it easy today
     
  15. terrynever

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    This kid pitcher is awful. He just imitated Newt LaLooshe from Bull Durham. Threw a pitch 20 feet right of home plate.
     
  16. terrynever

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    On a positive note, Andujar seems to be getting better as a hitter as the season drags on. Some rookies hit a wall. Miggie knocked it down.
     
  17. Couperin47

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    and his partner is no Crash Davis behind the plate
     
  18. crow216

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    Severino looks much better but continues to throw a lot of balls.
     
  19. jon abbey

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    A lot of options for next season, Andujar in house after/if they sign Machado and lots of FA/trade possibilities.
     
  20. jon abbey

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    Scary clouds around, will be happy when we get through 5.
     
  21. crow216

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    This makes me wonder. Has there ever been a game where the team with the lead intentionally tried to get through the 5th by making outs while the losing team tried to delay?
     
  22. Couperin47

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    finally a team living up to their rep for being shitty
     
  23. SemperFidelisSox

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    Toronto, Miami, Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit. And Sale on the DL. Theres your window Yankee fans.
     
  24. jon abbey

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    NY has CC back now next time around also, so their rotation is back to being in as good shape as it's been all year, but I still don't see NY winning enough games or Boston losing enough to make the division close at any point.
     
  25. Couperin47

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    even on a good easy day our lousy luck abides...
     
  26. Couperin47

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    lol how many ways can you butcher a play Brett
     
  27. terrynever

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    Yes, Miggie has to get off third base, if only to save my heart from exploding.
     
  28. Couperin47

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    I'm surprised Sterling isn't still using this

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  29. terrynever

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    Kahnle still looks ragged.
     
  30. Couperin47

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    He's exactly the same as when we sent him down...
     
  31. hbk72777

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    Is Kay really bitching about the Happ trade?

    Without him ,the Yankees might be tied with Oakland right now in the WC

    Kay is Captain Hindsight
     
  32. hbk72777

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    Nothing worse than Michael Kay wallowing in his own tears
     
  33. terrynever

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    Betances just keeps on trucking while his bullpen buddies struggle.
     
  34. terrynever

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    Santos just drilled Stanton high on the shoulder. Homered off Santos last night. But Stanton just shrugged it off. Santos' body language was directed inward. And Gibbons took him out. Sometimes, up and in is because a pitcher loses control of the ball coming off his fingertips, especially on a muggy day like today.

    Bird homered to right off the second deck facade, one pitch after taking a futile hack. O'Neill had a lot to say about the two swings. He said it's about weight transfer, or the hips, as Ted W always preached.
     
  35. terrynever

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    Romine will be evaluated further on Sunday. Didi just fouled one off his foot here in 8th. Long season.
    11-5 now after Didi hits a sac fly.
     
  36. terrynever

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    Needing a triple for the cycle, Miggie lines out to left.
     
  37. InsideTheParker

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    I also wondered if he was ill. All I got from Google is that he seems to have a history of spousal abuse. I wonder if he's an alcoholic.
    https://www.click2houston.com/news/...ck-knoblauch-arrested-again_20151123151611551
     
  38. jon abbey

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    Romine is OK, Higashioka will catch tomorrow, Monday is an off day and they hope/expect Romine back Tuesday. Exhale.
     
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  41. jon abbey

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    Andujar has 36 doubles, he has a shot at the alltime record for AL rookies, which is 47 by Fred Lynn.
     

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