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4/23 Ottawa at Boston -- revenge part 2

Discussion in 'Bruins Game Threads' started by The Napkin, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    Hoping the strong drafts they've had will change that up a bit. The B's haven't really had the opportunity to integrate a bunch of young talent like this.
     
  2. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    j44, No way. They had a lot of speed on the 3rd and 4th lines and skated teams into the ground, plus Marchand was much faster back then. Go look at dafoomie's Youtube page of the 2011 playoffs, they outskated and outpaced everyone that year.

    Cam doesn't believe in speed. He wants a "heavy" team. He's a dinosaur.
     
  3. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    Let's not kid ourselves that team was infinitely more skilled, if not significantly faster than this one.
     
  4. timlinin8th

    timlinin8th Member SoSH Member

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    I doubt McQuaid is the one Vegas takes. If they're taking a Bruins D-man its going to be whichever one of the Millers is left unprotected (assuming the three Bruins D to be protected are Chara(NMC), Krug, and one of Colin and Kevan). Kevan and McQ have essentially the same contract and Kevan is the better of the two, and Colin is cheaper with more upside. Its that reason Colin is probably the one getting protected.

    Considering most of the eligible forwards are crap like Beleskey, I am guessing Kevan is the pick.
     
  5. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    At the same time, there were a half dozen instances today where I saw his surroundings while he had the puck in dangerous territory and thought "fuck, what's he gonna do here?"

    All but one of those, he made the right decision - or made a play I didn't see until his patience opened up the ice.

    He's got better instincts than any other d-man that's come through this system in my lifetime
     
  6. cshea

    cshea Member SoSH Member

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    Disagree. They have never been a fast team.
     
  7. j44thor

    j44thor Member SoSH Member

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    Sean Thornton, Greg Campbell and Ryder were big parts of that team.
    Lucic and Horton lead the team in goals. They were not at all a fast team. They outlasted teams because they could roll 4 lines and wear out D consistently.
     
  8. lexrageorge

    lexrageorge Member SoSH Member

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    Team speed is more important now than it was in 2011.
     
  9. MiracleOfO2704

    MiracleOfO2704 not AWOL SoSH Member

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    That's not a slight on Vatrano, but I think of him more as a young version of Michael Ryder, a shoot-first winger that doesn't kill you defensively. He's a good player to have, but not a big help to their top-end depth issue.
     
  10. j44thor

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    Team speed is important in EA Sports.
    SJ was one of the slowest teams in the league last year and made the cup finals.
    They were strong on the puck, got good goaltending and played very good D.

    Speed isn't the end all, be all, if that was the case Daniel Paille would be in the HOF.
     
  11. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    Can someone explain why they blew it dead when Marchand got pushed into him and Anderson flopped? Net wasn't off. It wasn't a penalty. And the faceoff was still in the Ottawa end so it wasn't a hand pass or anything like that?
    Why do you stop play because the goalie is out of position?
     
  12. cshea

    cshea Member SoSH Member

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    Yeah I didn't get that either. Especially with the draw staying in the zone.
     
  13. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    Also: Fuck.

    I don't have the words for how much I hate the whole "we don't want a call to influence the game!" bullshit. The lack of logic in that amazes me.
     
  14. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    There will never be a good explanation for that one. Another panic whistle.
     
  15. TFP

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    Also the idea that the 2011 team was fast is literally insane. The only above average speed skaters on that team were Peverley, Kelly, and Paille. No one on that defense could skate half as fast as Colin Miller does now. This year's team could skate rings around the 2011 team.
     
  16. allstonite

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    I think they were going to call interference but Marchand went apeshit and they realized where Anderson was and saw Ceci's stick buried in Marchand's midsection
     
  17. BigSoxFan

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    0-3 at home. That's just unacceptable
     
  18. j44thor

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    Has that ever been called before in the history of the NHL? Believe the rule is to let the play continue and if they think interference lead to a goal to then waive the goal off. Never seen play stopped because a goalie is bumped but still has his lid on.
     
  19. cshea

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    If they thought it was GI without a penalty, then the draw should've been out of the zone. It was in. Anybody's guess as to what the call was.
     
  20. j44thor

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    Tough when you have to beat OTT and the refs in all but one game.
    They literally lost 2 players to the exact same play that OTT scored a pp goal on and Bs didn't even get a pp on either one. And that will be forgotten with all the other BS the refs pulled this series. I hate to sound like a homer but the national announcers called the officials out multiple times. That should simply not happen.
     
  21. TheShynessClinic

    TheShynessClinic SoSH's Doug Neidermeyer SoSH Member

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    How quickly we forget Tyler Seguin.
     
  22. TFP

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    You mean the healthy scratch for half of the playoffs?

    Even granting that point, that team was still not "fast".
     
  23. locknload

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    Two totally different thresholds for each team. I dont care if the refs suck as long as they suck evenly and consistently. In this case it was obvious early in the series that Senators were going get helped along at every chance.

    Fuck this league.
     
  24. TheShynessClinic

    TheShynessClinic SoSH's Doug Neidermeyer SoSH Member

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    Lighten up Francis, it was a joke.
     
  25. TFP

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    DON'T TELL ME TO LIGHTEN UP! I'M PLENTY LIGHTENED UP!
     
  26. TheShynessClinic

    TheShynessClinic SoSH's Doug Neidermeyer SoSH Member

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    You spent too much time in Europe. They made you all....European.
     
  27. lexrageorge

    lexrageorge Member SoSH Member

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    Well, between the 4 teams in the playoff series involving local teams, the home team is now 1-9.
     
  28. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    I mentioned this in another thread, but I'm all done with Morrow too (although this was his best game of the series). He's got the tools, but it just ain't working.


    Yeah...he looked tired tonight. A few silly mistakes, showed his inexperience. Been a long year and he responded incredibly well to being thrown in the fire, but it wasn't easy for him tonight. Says a lot about his ability though, that he struggled and was still a top 4 defenseman.
     
  29. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Mrs. Dennis Wideman SoSH Member

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    Can someone explain to me how this team isn't going to be pretty much the same team again next year? Outside of replacing a few of the middling pieces, praying some team takes McQuaid and praying a few of the kids can contribute in their year one season - I just don't see how we're not looking at basically the same team this time next year.

    Maybe I'm just not being creative enough.
     
  30. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Unless the defense makes a huge jump, I agree. There's basically no depth on offense unless Vatrano makes a biiiiig jump, I guess.
     
  31. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Mrs. Dennis Wideman SoSH Member

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    I do think I'm taking one step into the trade Chara camp, however. I'm not fully committed, but with the emergence of McEvoy and Carlo, if LV doesn't take McQuaid, then I think it's the easiest way to free cap space and improve the team.

    Let's make an anti-Bruins move for once. Let's trade away an expensive aging veteran instead acquiring or holding onto one.
     
  32. kenneycb

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    The biggest issue is his NMC so I imagine their hands are tied with him. Regardless, he has one more year at a $4M cap hit, so I'd rather keep him at that price point.
     
  33. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Mrs. Dennis Wideman SoSH Member

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    Beh, I should have looked, was thinking he still had 2 years.
     
  34. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    I'm terrified about Carlo's head being an ongoing thing. Mainly because there's been nothing out there about him doing anything physical. And partly because Savard is still too fresh.
     
  35. j44thor

    j44thor Member SoSH Member

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    Delete wrong thread
     

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