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2019 PGA Tour

Discussion in 'General Sports' started by TFP, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    Agreed and Phil said exactly that after the win. It'll be a completely different course come June.

    But that won't stop the hype train, that's for sure.
     
  2. ezemerson

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    oh dear - have you seen the featured groups for this week......salivating
     
  3. cshea

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    Not sure if anyone has been following the Kuchar-stiffs-local caddie story, but there’s some more details out today.



    The gist is Kuchar used a local caddie at the Mayakoba Golf Classic this past fall. Kuchar ended up winning, collecting a $1.3 million paycheck. He paid the caddie $5,000. The caddie was not happy, expecting more. Apparently the caddie was under the impression that Kuchar would pay him $3,000 for the week plus some undisclosed percentage of Kuchar’s winnings.

    Most people seem to be in agreement that $3K is a fair rate for a tour pro to pay a local caddie for a week of work. The bonus seems a little shitty to me.
     
  4. Zomp

    Zomp Turkey Virgin Dope

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    A little? Kuchar would have given his own caddy 10%. At the minimum he should have given this guy 50k. Make a difference in someone's life that has no impact on yours.
     
  5. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    The 10% covers all the weeks of no $, expenses, travel time away from family, acting like an amateur psychologist, etc. This guy just showed up for 4 days and likely just carried the bag. Comparing his fee to the 10% the full time caddie would get is incorrect, especially since Kuchar seemingly would be paying him $3k if he missed the cut too.

    That said, he should have just kicked him some extra $ for PR purposes. Far be it from me to tell anyone how to spend their money, but if he had given him anything over $10k I bet it's a non-story.
     
  6. Zomp

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    I don't think caddies just work for the percentages of winnings, but I could be wrong. I thought they had a (minimal) base salary plus whatever they get.

    Come on, its weak either way...and as someone who hates Kuchar's aw shucks routine I am loving this.
     
  7. CantKeepmedown

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    Obviously, $3K for four days of relatively light work is nothing scoff at. But a $2K tip after winning 1.3M is heinous. Apparently, Kuchar then offered another $15K, which the caddie turned down. Still, that's like a 1% tip when it's all said and done. Kuchar deserves any and all negative attention.
     
  8. cshea

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    Weather is apparently dicey for tomorrow’s opening round at Riviera.

    Anyways, Tiger says he is going to Mexico next week. Probably means the Honda is on the chopping block.

    The next 9 weeks:

    Genesis
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    Honda
    API
    Players
    Valspar
    Match Play
    Valero
    Masters

    He usually plays Honda and API, but there’s no way he plays 5 weeks in a row. Honda makes the most sense as it is right in the middle. Valspar probably gets booted too after the 1 trip last year, which is a bummer. Match play would then seemingly fit in as the final live tune up before Augusta. Or he just shuts it down after the Players.
     
  9. LoweTek

    LoweTek Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Tiger will play API. He played Valspar last year and nearly won it. I'd be surprised if he skipped both. I bet he skips Honda.
     
  10. Freddy Linn

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    On mobile, but Twitter is killing Kuchar for his follow-on comments. Rightfully so, he seems woefully tone deaf and is causing easily avoidable harm to his reputation.
     
  11. cshea

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    Here’s the story. “For a guy who makes $200 a day, $5,000 is a pretty good week.”

    Oof.

    Kuchar’s version is that they agreed on $1,000 for a missed cut, $2,000 for a made cut, $3,000 top 20 and $4,000 top 10. This makes Kuchar look even worse, the winning tip was a whopping $1,000.

     
  12. ezemerson

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    great conditions this morning....dumb they even started....a few groups on the course and they blow the horn
     
  13. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Kuchar is getting murdered for this and he should be getting murdered. This is just beyond awful.
     
  14. ezemerson

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    Phil trying to finish 1 goes bunker, bunker, bunker, draino for a 4 unreal
     
  15. cshea

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    That is one way to make a par.

     
  16. Dan1864

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    typical phil this morning.
     
  17. Lupe Whalewatch

    Lupe Whalewatch Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    any update as to when they may start playing again?
     
  18. cshea

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    Not for a while. The tour says their next update will be 1:00 pm pst.

    Whenever they do resume, it’ll be a full reset.

     
  19. cshea

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    4:40 EST restart.
     
  20. cshea

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    Afternoon Phil hits driver off the deck from the rough.
     
  21. FL4WL3SS

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    What channel is it on? I have GC on and it's Golf Central.
     
  22. FL4WL3SS

    FL4WL3SS Member SoSH Member

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    Also, Brandel looks dumb with a beard
     
  23. cshea

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    TV coverage ended. PGA Tour Live is all there is now.
     
  24. FL4WL3SS

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  25. cshea

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    Agreed. I was looking forward to prime time golf in the east. Don’t know why they can’t stay on air.
     
  26. Comfortably Lomb

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    Mickelson seems to be having fun out there again. This was my favorite recent one:



    Peak Phil was, of course, hitting off the TV cables instead of taking a drop because “I’ve never hit one off the cables.”
     
  27. cshea

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    Some good stuff out of the super group. JT is -5 through 11 and Tiger has ripped off 4 birdies in a row after starting +2 through 7.
     
  28. cshea

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    Kooch and the caddie have reached a settlement.

     
  29. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    2 extra hours of coverage on the Golf Channel
     
  30. Zomp

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    Love the way Rosaforte worded that lol
     
  31. cshea

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    DeChambeau with a half Sergio in the bunker. Look like he took a good chunk out of the lip.
     
  32. Comfortably Lomb

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    $50k to the caddie.
     
  33. BigMike

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    Phil just being Phil out there at 18, having to play a wedge over the stands, and landing about 10 feet from Spieth, who sure looked like he was paying no attention and wasn't watching for a shot coming after him. Then missed the par putt
     
  34. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Tiger and Phil each with eagles, less than 2 minutes apart. Tiger absolutely stuffed one on 11 for a relatively easy putt, while Phil made a crazy snake on 10.
     
  35. cshea

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    Birdie, eagle, birdie, birdie start for Eldrick.
     
  36. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    6:45AM restart tomorrow. Tiger said that means he'll get up at 2 or 3 to start the process.
     
  37. Zomp

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    I remember Steve Williams saying Tiger would get up four hours before his round no matter the start time and then when he went to Adam Scott, he adopted it as well.

    I find it interesting. I wonder what the process is.
     
  38. cshea

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    After the restart, another big bird for Tiger on #1. -8 now.

    He said he was up at 1:30 am.
     
  39. Zomp

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    -7 for the day but entering the hard part of the course.
     
  40. cshea

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    Cold, windy and rainy for the final round. Let’s see if anyone can put together a run at JT.

    Edit: Also, Spieth just badly shanked one.
     
  41. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    Spieth with one of the ugliest shanks I have ever seen on the 2nd. (Final round.)
     
  42. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    He's now +5 after 5 holes, and that includes a birdie.
     
  43. cshea

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    Now Spieth 3-jacks from about 5 feet.
     
  44. cshea

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    JT is leaking some oil.

    JB is going to be painful. Kostis already calling him out.
     
  45. kenneycb

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    Holmes hit a shot from a fairway bunker that got embedded in the side of the bunker just outside the lip. Can’t say I’ve seen that before.
     
  46. cshea

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    He’s lucky he got free relief.
     
  47. Comfortably Lomb

    Comfortably Lomb Koko the Monkey SoSH Member

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    JT with yet another new putter in the bag. These guys really are head cases on the greens.
     
  48. cshea

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    We need to keep a camera on Spieth. He’s got a 12 footer for triple on 10.

    Missed it. Add a snowman to his card.
     
  49. Comfortably Lomb

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    And with that he moved to ten over par for his round. That was a 302 yard par 4 he posted a snowman on. Woof.
     
  50. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    According to shot-by-shot, he drove it into the greenside bunker, took FIVE shots to get out, and two putted.
     

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