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2019 Broncos changes

Discussion in 'Blinded by the Lombardis: Patriots Forum' started by j-man, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. j-man

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    A Quick review of this team

    QB Keemem will be back most likely evan as a backup does denver pick a young QB in 19 get a vet or tank for 20 keemem had a ave first 3 mos and got worse in dec he is a high end backup low end starter

    RB they are fine here maybe a 3rd down vet but with so many other holes rb is the least imp need on team
    WR Sanders is a ? might miss the first 6 weeks or be cut sutton is raw but with a better QB wouid flash more WR Tim Patrick can be a 2nd WR with the right coach hamilton is a slot backup guy
    TE Denver needs a vet here hereman is more suited to backup butt is a bust
    OL bolies holds too much leary is most likey gone pardels might not be back verledder is a FA Expact at least 3 new starters here

    DL Wolfe misses 2-4 games a year can he hold up gotsis is a run stiffer S Harris is underrated peko might be gone maybe even retirement

    LB 3 of the 4 spots are set T Davis miller chubb and likely J Jewell Marshell will be gone so will barnett and ray
    OLB Jeff holland could be a futre star had flashed in 2 games this year

    CB denver needs at least 2 CB Issac Y shouild start at 1 spot Roby might be gone harris jr is a nickel CB
    S simmons is hit/miss 16 was a star 17/18 has dropped off

    bottom line i wont know how to judge uthil the new coach is here but unless elway hits the draft like last year 6/7 wins are likely
     
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    here is denver urfa

    Broncos Unrestricted Free Agents
    Player Position Age
    Shaquil Barrett EDGE 26 will cost too much for denver wants to start can do everything but sack the QB
    Shane Ray EDGE 26 a 1st round bust can only rush the passer can be ran on
    Jeff Heuerman TE 26 if kubiak is the OC he will be back is just OK not great
    Deiontrez Mount LB 26 JAG st guy
    Billy Turner G 27 underrated can play RG/RT
    Bradley Roby CB 27 will cost too much some team will give him a 4/y 48 mil deal is a Num 2 as best
    Max Garcia G 27 awful at pass pro
    Jamar Taylor CB 28 a 4th cb at best u can say his punch cost us the cle game
    Matt Paradis C 29 his inj worryed me would be a great fit in sf or sea
    Zach Kerr DE 29 can play all 3pos in a 3/4
    Gino Gradkowski C 30 a kubiak guy if kubiak is here he will be too
    Tramaine Brock CB 31 is not that great might have 1 y left as a 4th cb
    Jared Veldheer RT 32 was passable at RT
    Domata Peko NT 34 BILL B needs to sign this guy was everything Denver wanted and more would be perfect on a SB team that cant stop the run great locker room guy can stop the run basically what danny shelon should had been
     
    #4 j-man, Jan 3, 2019
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  5. j-man

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    here is denver starting lineup right now

    denver starting lineup right now
    QB Keenum
    rb freeman lindrey
    FB Jano
    WR Sutton hamiliton patick
    te butt fumagaill
    lt bolles
    LG ?
    C ?
    RG Mggovern
    RT ?

    LE Wolif ?
    NT ?
    RE GOTSIS walker
    lolb miller
    MLB DAVIS Jewell
    ROLB Chubb holland
    CB Harris jr yiadom langley ?
    fs simmons
    ss parks carter marshell
    k mcmanus
    P waldman?
     
  6. gtmtnbiker

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    Which of these guys would you want to see back on the team?
     
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    Billy Turner G 27 Zach Kerr DE 29 Jared Veldheer RT 32 i want barnett and pardellis back too but Bartnett want to start and Pardells is a ? mark turner can play rg/rt kerr can play any DE spot in a 3/4 and Veldheer can hold down RT for a year while we draft a guy in 2019
     
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    vic fangio is the new head coach kubiak is the OC

    to me this saids we should had hired wade 2 years ago he will need 2 CB a mlb and more DE'S

    the good he runs a atticking def that was number 1 this year ran SF def from 11-14
    the bad at best this is john fox 2.0

    this shouild work better than joseph but likely in 4-6 years denver will be looking again unless elway hits on the next 2 drafts like the one in 18
     
  9. Sox and Rocks

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    This most recent hire makes it clear that Elway doesn't do rebuilds. He believes this team can and should win now, and this will obviously dictate the offseason.

    Keenum will be back or they will sign another vet, probably Flacco. There will be no first round QB as Elway doesn't have patience for him to develop. He'll likely try to hit on a longshot in the mid to later rounds. There will be no trading of veteran players for draft picks unless the player clearly has no role, ala DT. Free agency will be an attempt to overpay positions of of need, especially via short term contracts.

    In other words, it will be more of the same from Elway. This approach worked well when he convinced Manning to come to Denver, but obviously hasn't since. I'm skeptical this is the right move now. It seems a full rebuild is needed, but, again, Elway doesn't do rebuilds.

    And make no mistake about it, Gary Kubiak is essentially the head coach again. He'll run the offense and Fangio will run the D. Basically, this is the same as it was when it was Kubiak and Phillips, except Fangio will carry and throw the challenge flag rather than Kubiak, and the talent isn't as strong as it was then.
     
  10. Gunfighter 09

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    So if they were going to hire Fangio, why didnt they just make Wade Phillips the guy two years ago? Fangio is the slightly less successful and eight years younger version of Wade Phillips, isn't he? This feels like Elway is acknowledging that mistake now.
     
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    kubiak wanted dennioned his son and some guy named parill worked with kubiak and mike s elway wanted a more college off kubiak is stuck in 1999
     
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    because they did not want to lose joe woods which was our db coach in 2015 16

    in hindshint anthony lynn shouild been the hire he played on the 1998 broncos was the steams captin has built a mentilly tough LAC team
     
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    yeah elway is too impanint i actilly think keemem is gone because only kubiak wanted him and pushed elway to sign him

    denver will sign a vet qb and draft 1 with our 1st or 2nd round pick denver actilly has good RB'S with freeman power lisdry one cut speed its looked like denver will hire mike muhcreck pitt as the o-line coach there are rumoers den wants SF qb coach to be their OC but kyle S blocked it
     
  15. Michelle34B

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    Vic Fangio has proven he can build top defenses and scoring defenses in this league. The Bears were the worst defense in the league and their history before he took over and made them into the a great group last year, and elite this year. They dominated the Rams when they played this year.

    He had Justin Smith and Aldon Smith in San Francisco, Akiem Hicks and Khalil Mack in Chicago. He will already have a fantastic DE/LB combo in place when he arrives with Bradley Chubb and Von Miller.

    If you're going to be in the same division as the Kansas City Chiefs and their offense, this man has the best resume to find a way to beat them.
     
  16. tims4wins

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    ...as a DC. But can he succeed as the HC?
     
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    How much salary cap space do the Broncos have? They would be a really good spot for Foles if they are going for it.
     
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    He has nothing left to prove as a DC. It's refreshing to see him get a shot compared to the trend of looking for the next Sean McVay. A lot of that "success" is going to depend on Elway because he is picking the players and the staff. He's being compared here to Wade Phillips and the lesser option to rebuilding.

    John Fox hired Fangio in Chicago and ran a 34 defense because of him, so Elway must have a very good idea of what he is getting in his new head coach. I'm excited to see him in the same division as the Chiefs next year.
     
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    I don’t disagree with any of that. It is a risky move though IMO.
     
  20. Marciano490

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    There are different ways to skin a cat though, no? If Fangio gets a solid OC and cedes offensive control to him, then that seems like less risky than if he tries to run everything himself.
     
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    About 60 mil if they cut Leary stewart b marshall
     
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    denver played almost as well as u can aga KC if i was NE i wouild look at what denver done aga kc off esp week 4
     
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    muchrek pitt o-line coach is comeing to denver in the same job wanted to be closer to his dauther family it looks like denver will hire
    Rich Scangarello as oc was the 49ers qb coach the last 2 years
     
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    i expeat the pats to win the SB If not this year next year for sure
     
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    to me it looks like denver has 2 choies at QB 1 sign foles to a 4y 100 mil deal or 2 trade up to 3 and get haskins or stay at 10 and get murray or lock i really like murray or haskings to be honest
     
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    Well, Always gets someone from the Shanahan tree. Scangarello definitely did great work with Mullens this year, but it will be very interesting to see what kind of offense hits the field next season. Will Elway have a lot of direct input into the offense? How much input with Fangio have? Are we going to see a lot of Kyle Shanahan designs with Keenum?
     
  27. j-man

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    elway has said he is intseded in college off that case is a short term qb i wouild think it wouild look like the 2017 18 49ers off i think fangio will try to up our turnovers because in the last 2 years ex for the JETS 17 and pitt 18 denver did not get many turnovers
     

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