I think he's implying that teams know Camargo is an extra piece for Atl, thus you might expect his price to drop. But then he says it wouldn't "even losing 3b."
I mean, it is a very good situation for him (veteran leader for a ton of exciting young talent) and I can see them trying to sell it to him as a redo of his 2018 (same salary, $23M) since he put up 36 bWAR the 5 years before that (I can't get over this number, so impressive) and then had his one dud year in his FA year. He wasn't going to get more than that for this season, so he is betting on himself.
Good question, I had to hunt down the answer and this is the one that applies here:
Is Gleyber well regarded defensively? I had always thought he was fine, but just looked at his positional breakdown last year and saw that he had a -16.7 UZR/150 at 2B and -21.5 UZR/150 at short, albeit in 150 innings.
I believe this is what you are looking for per MLBTR
Yeah, it's good to reference. Actually I already posted the relevant part of that in the post you quoted, my question was if there is additional international money lost if a team goes over the top limit (this year it's $246M) but from what I could find, there is not.
It all depends on the money. No team is going to want to take on much of the salary of a steroid user who is 36 years old. If we can outright sign a reliever, it might just make more sense to do that. Diaz is going to cost something we probably would be unwilling to give up.
If Diaz is the piece that make-up the difference between Cano and Ellsbury's contract than I say yes. But that isn't going to happen.
Fangraphs suggests that Cano for Ellsbury works pretty well on its own:
Not their best work, they compare the three guys NY signed the same winter as Cano to Cano and conclude that they should have signed Cano instead, but really it couldn't have been more clear both then and now that the right decision was to not sign any of them.
I was adding another component to the performance calculus, NY got five prospects when moving their guys signed that winter, and SEA looks like they may be sending Diaz to the Mets to get rid of Cano’s (Passan reporting a few minutes ago).
Passan reports that the Mariners will pay 10 mil per year in additon to sending Diaz. If that's all there is, they are getting hosed. 70 mil for 5 years of Cano is a decent enough deal on its own, certainly not an overpay that requires Diaz to balance the scales.
Another "Mets" move. I just don't understand that organization. Obviously we need to see the full details of the potential deal but I just don't understand why they couldn't get this production out of the FA market. I would bet my left foot that in year or two, they are packaging one of their starters with Cano to re-offload that contract.
Kiley McDaniel tweets:
I always find it interesting when reporters call each other out on stuff like this.
Stanton was different because he had a full no-trade and would only accept a deal to a few teams, only one of which actually wanted him and his deal. Cano also has a full no-trade but seems happy to waive it although no one has actually asked him yet. I agree with you in general but it depends on the specific situation too.
Those two guys are two of the few quality ones, but Sherman has great sources with both NY teams.
That seems in the ballpark. If the reports are true that the Mariners are giving Diaz AND paying 50 mil, then the market is badly underestimating how good Cano still is, and I'm mad the Red Sox aren't somehow taking advantage of this. But most likely, the reports are not true.
Yeah, I was wondering if they'd consider that, interesting. That would probably mean they only sign one reliever, not two.
I don't honestly believe either team would do that, so yeah, didn't think it was worth discussing. I do wish they'd pair Sanchez with someone better than Romine, but I wished for that all last winter too and here we are.
