Dismiss Notice
Guest, I have a big favor to ask you. We've been working very hard to establish ourselves on social media. If you like/follow our pages it would be a HUGE help to us. SoSH on Facebook and Inside the Pylon Thanks! Nip

2018 Patriots: Injury Watch

Discussion in 'Blinded by the Lombardis: Patriots Forum' started by SeoulSoxFan, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. lexrageorge

    lexrageorge Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    6,793
    I can certainly remember cases where players were initially ruled "questionable to return" and ended up on IR 2 days later.

    While I believe that most ACL and Achilles injuries can be diagnosed on the sidelines, I don't think that applies to all such injuries. And the medical staff will want to see some sort of confirmation through imaging and other tests before making any definitive diagnosis regardless.

    Sorry for the pessimistic tone.
     
  2. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

    Messages:
    20,649
    Do we need to add Gordon? Here’s the last play, it certainly looks like he comes up lame after the defender pulled his leg:
     
  3. richgedman'sghost

    richgedman'sghost Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,274
    Wasn't Gordon in on the last play? I'm pretty sure that he leaped over the Bears player to try to deflect the pass. If he was injured, I don't think the Pats would have had him on the final play.
     
  4. maufman

    maufman Anderson Cooper x Mr. Rogers Staff Member Dope Gold Supporter

    Messages:
    23,622
    Michel will undergo an MRI tomorrow, per multiple sources on the Twitter.
     
  5. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

    Messages:
    20,649
    That’s a good point. I guess he just ran out of gas, which is odd, but whatever. I suppose he hasn’t played in a ton of games for a while.
     
  6. dcdrew10

    dcdrew10 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,214
    Not a doctor, but a veteran of 2 ACL tears and in my experience this is correct. They can do a couple of manual tests of the stability of knee to get an idea if there is a test, but it takes an MRI to confirm the degree of the tear (partial/full) and what the collateral damage is to the cartilage, which is more important long term. That’s my biggest worry with Sony’s knees. Think of Brandon Roy’s decline and retirement or Greg Oden’s failed career. Torn ligaments are fixable, torn cartilage is a lot more dicey.
     
  7. Section15Box113

    Section15Box113 Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    6,285
    He was definitely on the field for that play.

    EDIT - NESN link so it’s not just me positing it:
    nesn.com/2018/10/patriots-notes-how-new-england-foiled-bears-last-second-hail-mary-bid/amp/
     
  8. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

    Messages:
    31,056
  9. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

    Messages:
    17,105
    He looked gassed at the end of the run on the long reception. Full game shape Gordon scores on that, easily.
     
  10. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,597
    That wouldn't surprise me. I just think it's worth noting - especially given the doom-and-gloom in other threads - that they did not immediately rule him out.
     
  11. ifmanis5

    ifmanis5 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    31,677
  12. Valek123

    Valek123 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    779
    High risk, High reward draft pick in Sony - hope this comes back with the best possible news as he was becoming a true difference maker(and personally I feel for the kid). This almost ensures Gillislee is picked up again doesn't it?
     
  13. Shelterdog

    Shelterdog Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,030
    There's no reason to think he was a particularly high risk draft pick; he only missed a handful of games. The only reporting about his knee being a problem pre-draft where leaks right before the draft by Friends of Bill Lombardi and Mayock that maybe he had a bone on bone situation; those frankly sound like disinformation by the Pats.

    Sometimes guys just get hurt.
     
  14. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

    Messages:
    31,056
    That seems more a function of "We know what Gronk is dealing with, but Michel hasn't had MRI yet".
     
  15. lexrageorge

    lexrageorge Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    6,793
    If it turns out that Michel's injury is serious enough for him to land on IR, I don't think anyone can pin that injury on his preexisting knee condition. That was an ugly looking fall that would probably tear ligaments in most knees.

    His injury history, however, could be a factor in his long term recovery.
     
  16. SeoulSoxFan

    SeoulSoxFan Dope Dope

    Messages:
    18,471
    @AdamSchefter
    Text from last night on Patriots’ RB Sony Michel and his injured knee: “Expect it will be a little bit but not overly serious. Won’t know til they look at it Monday.”
     
  17. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419
    Deep breaths in hoping this is true. If him and Burkhead are OK for the December stretch run I'll call that a win in my book.
     
  18. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419


    Per @RapSheet: initial diagnosis on #Patriots RB Sony Michel, pending MRI, is an MCL sprain. If that's all it is the Pats dodged a huge bullet.

    Please let this be an MCL sprain.
     
  19. grandsalami

    grandsalami lurker

    Messages:
    1,362
    Wow, so if that is the case, he might be looking at 4 weeks out?
     
  20. Ralphwiggum

    Ralphwiggum Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,751
    Here's the Rap Sheet tweet:



    [​IMG]
    Ian Rapoport

    ✔@RapSheet



    Sources: #Patriots RB Sony Michel’s knee injury is not considered serious following his MRI. His timetable isn’t clear, but this is pretty good news for their impressive rookie runner. He still could miss time, but if he does, it may not be much.

    1:10 PM - Oct 22, 2018
     
  21. BigSoxFan

    BigSoxFan Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    29,545
    Great news. Seems like he should be good to go in a month after the bye.
     
  22. SoxinSeattle

    SoxinSeattle Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,391
    I hate how we have become conditioned to celebrate a guy missing a month of football. I'm sick of injuries!
     
  23. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,597
    In the meantime ... Kenneth Farrow? Barner? A big dose of White?
     
  24. TFisNEXT

    TFisNEXT Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    10,714
    The life of a patriot fan for the past 15+ years (and esp past decade) has been to make sure the team is healthy and ready to go for the playoffs.

    Honestly, it's a perfect time for Michel to miss just 3 games before the bye. The two road games are against chumps (TEN and BUF) the Patriots should easily beat and the one tough game against GB is in Foxoborugh...and GB might be more banged up than the Patriots.
     
  25. Koufax

    Koufax Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    4,171
    Mike Gillislee is out on the street.
     
  26. TheoShmeo

    TheoShmeo Skrub's sympathy case Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    12,414
    This is true. But I do worry that missing 3-4 games is not the end of the story. We saw Michel take a few games to get his sea legs down as he came back from injury this summer. Being out for 3-4 games could mean that he will not be effective for 5-6 games. To your point, that's still before the playoffs and the playoffs are of course the main thing. But there is the little thing of getting there and seeding, and missing an effective Michel for this long will make the putt longer.
     
  27. SeoulSoxFan

    SeoulSoxFan Dope Dope

    Messages:
    18,471
    I think MG is cooked. Apparently, he was cut for not seeing the holes the OL was creating for him. Barner looked better than MG did most of last year too, IMHO.
     
  28. j44thor

    j44thor Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    8,549
    I'm surprised no team has picked up Orleans Darkwa. I think he has made a few FA visits but he is still out there. Avg 4.4 YPC behind a bad NYG OL last year and just turned 26.
    Not much more than a journeyman but at this point that is probably all the Pats need.
     
  29. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419
    How about the 3rd episode of LG Blount??
     
  30. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419
    Schefter on Sony Michel: no structural damage. Week-to-week.



    MRI on Patriots’ RB Sony Michel revealed no structural damage, per source. Michel will be considered week to week, per source. Best-case scenario for Michel and Patriots.
     
  31. koufax32

    koufax32 He'll cry if he wants to... SoSH Member

    Messages:
    6,546
    That’s fantastic news. Wow
     
  32. joe dokes

    joe dokes Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    11,809
    Good point, but I think (hope?) that the time it took him to get going had to be related to NFL acclimation, in addition to injury. Hopefully, he had a long enough run so that the acclimation part doesn't have to be repeated.
     
  33. TheoShmeo

    TheoShmeo Skrub's sympathy case Lifetime Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    12,414
    A good hope and I would assume that was indeed part of it. If I had to rank order getting fully healthy and acclimation, I would put them in that order. But yeah, it's reasonable to believe that his experience thus far will help.
     
  34. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419
    They have Buffalo, GB, and Tennessee until the bye. I would definitely think he's out this week and I wouldn't mind if he sat out the next 3 weeks. Gives him a solid month off for the stretch run.
     
  35. bsj

    bsj Renegade Crazed Genius SoSH Member

    Messages:
    16,888
    Between michel and gronk feels like best case scenarios for both.
     
  36. mcpickl

    mcpickl Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    2,871
    Darkwa has been in New England for workouts twice this year, once in April and again last month. He's a heavier guy that would make sense to go with White and Barner.
     
  37. jodyreeddudley78

    jodyreeddudley78 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    1,739
    Is Cordarelle a viable option for snaps at RB? Like 5 or so a game? It utilizes his only real skill, because he's basically useless as an WR.
     
  38. timelysarcasm

    timelysarcasm Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    483
    That kick return yesterday was pretty nice.

    I think they stick with Barner. Gillislee stinks and anyone else wouldn't be ensconced enough before Michel comes back anyway. Linebacker is the glaring, gaping wound that needs to be addressed at the deadline.
     
  39. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

    Messages:
    17,105
    They need a warm body at this point. Gillislee seems perfect unless they can get Blount for nothing.
     
  40. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

    Messages:
    19,556
    If Sweetleaf could play RB then why not Patterson
     
  41. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

    Messages:
    17,105
    I think the offense is different and Sweetleaf played it as a gadget play. They need someone to be able to handle 10 snaps or so at the very least.
     
  42. BigSoxFan

    BigSoxFan Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    29,545
    Has there been any word on Duke Dawson's progress?
     
  43. tmracht

    tmracht lurker

    Messages:
    103
    Nothing I have seen has been definitive, but Mike Reiss did say on September 30th, that there was a chance he could come off IR this year along side Burkhead, while saying Bentley and Hill did not look to be able to recover in time for this season. But that was 3+ weeks ago, so sorry if that isn't helpful!
     
  44. InstaFace

    InstaFace MDLzera

    Messages:
    6,148
    For running backs and offensive linemen, expectations on juries have been managed down so far that they're now subterranean. Those are the players for whom the NFL truly is Not For Long.
     
  45. JohnnyTheBone

    JohnnyTheBone Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    13,706
  46. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    35,419


    Though RB Sony Michel and TE Rob Gronkowski missed practice Wednesday, the news continues to be positive on their injuries. According to a league source, Michel “may miss a week or two” while Gronkowski has “a shot” to return for his homecoming game Monday in Buffalo. #Patriots
     
  47. normstalls

    normstalls Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    3,160
    per @patscap Duke Dawson was designated to return today...he will be eligible week 9 vs. GB. That leaves one IR-DTR left (Hill, Burkhead, and Bentley all eligible)
     
  48. Dernells Casket n Flagon

    Dernells Casket n Flagon Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    3,136
    What's the point of designating him now? Can he now stays practicing with the team or something?
     
  49. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

    Messages:
    13,459
    yes, he practiced today
     
  50. SeoulSoxFan

    SeoulSoxFan Dope Dope

    Messages:
    18,471
    That's correct. Pats have 21 days to activate him. If they do not, Dawson reverts back to IR and do before the year.
     

Share This Page