2018 NFL Hall of Fame
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Class of 2018
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Ray Lewis
Brian Dawkins
Brian Urlacher
Jerry Kramer
Robert Brazile
Bobby Bethard
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Ray Lewis
Brian Dawkins
Brian Urlacher
Jerry Kramer
Robert Brazile
Bobby Bethard
AV
Dawkins 139
Law 111
Blah blah SB pick-six and Dawkins is a loser who never won anything blah blah.
Ty Law not getting in is a joke, but Dawkins is more than deserving. He was a great player.
Hes a great player but so is ty law with 3 rings which to me should seperate him from dawkins.
Law should get in, and he will, but Dawkins was a tremendous player. His election isn't a calamity.
It’s very disappointing. Look at who he faced in the NFC East: he was a dominant player.
He won 3 rings but didn’t play in the 2004 playoffs. We have Asante Samuel and Randall Gay to thank for that ring.
Edit: off topic but while the 2004 team was perhaps the best team of this entire era it was a very improbable title given the playoff route and injury situation - had to play MVPeyton, at 15-1 Steelers, and vs. a great Iggles team, all three games without the two starting CBs Law and Poole
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On this board we actively try to discourage using WAR as a definitive statement on a baseball player's worth, but now we're trying to settle football arguments solely by PFR's Approximate Value?
Except my original post took issue with saying Dawkins over Law is a joke. Then he predictably doubled down by saying Law should get in because of the titles. AV is far from the be-all end-all but it beats the hell out of count teh ringz!
It's amazing to compare Moss now to the kid he used to be. Even compared to TO who hasn't appeared to mature one bit.
I´m new to that process. Do those knock-on-door-scenes mean that those guys (like TO for exampe, if he made it to the final cut the last time) are sitting in their hotel room and wait and wait and wait and nobody comes, if they´re not voted in?
(Until they go out for dinner in frustration after a deadline passes..? Like 5pm for TO, 5.05pm Moss, 5.10pm Dawkins, etc.?) Or what´s the schedule of that event/presentation for the finalists?
(Until they go out for dinner in frustration after a deadline passes..? Like 5pm for TO, 5.05pm Moss, 5.10pm Dawkins, etc.?) Or what´s the schedule of that event/presentation for the finalists?
Disappointed for Ty Law, but happy that the HOF got it right with both TO and, more importantly, Randy. I was prepared for sanctimonious sports writers spending words telling us about how neither respected the game or some other bullshit.
Gonzalez, Reed and Bailey are mortal locks for next year which means Ty will probably have to wait again.
Gonzalez, Reed and Bailey are mortal locks for next year which means Ty will probably have to wait again.
I don't think Ty is deserving, personally, as much as I love him. I also didn't think Urlacher should have made it. I'll be pretty pissed if John Lynch makes it but he probably will too.
Urlacher was the best player on an excellent defense for almost a decade. He has 150 AV. He's absolutely deserving.
I don't think Lynch or Law are getting in for a while. The next two years have Reed and Bailey then Polamalu. The DBs will have to wait for those guys to clear. Law has a better shot, he made the top 10 for the second year in a row, while Lynch didn't. http://www.talkoffamenetwork.com/hof-judgements-youth-served-owens-moss-lewis-elected/
The big question for the voters is what to do with the offensive linemen. Boselli, Mawae, Faneca, and Hutchinson all finished in the 6-10 spots, likely splitting votes with each other. The committee needs to come to a consensus. I think Faneca and Hutchinson should be easy choices, followed by Boselli and then Mawae. I hope at least one of the guards gets in next year.
The big question for the voters is what to do with the offensive linemen. Boselli, Mawae, Faneca, and Hutchinson all finished in the 6-10 spots, likely splitting votes with each other. The committee needs to come to a consensus. I think Faneca and Hutchinson should be easy choices, followed by Boselli and then Mawae. I hope at least one of the guards gets in next year.