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2018 NBA Game Thread

Discussion in 'Mark Blount's Port Cellar: Celtics Forum' started by ifmanis5, Oct 15, 2018.

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  1. ifmanis5

    ifmanis5 Member SoSH Member

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    National TV Sked: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nba-tv-schedule/

    The 2018 NBA Playoffs begins Saturday, April 13 and the NBA Finals Thursday, May 30. The May 30 start is the earliest for the NBA Finals since 1985 (May 27).

    Full national TV list in spoiler:
    ALL TIMES EASTERN. Schedule subject to change.

    REGULAR SEASON NBA TV SCHEDULE
    TIME GAME NET
    Tuesday, October 16
    8:00p Sixers-Celtics TNT
    10:30p Thunder-Warriors TNT
    Wednesday, October 17
    8:00p Pelicans-Rockets ESPN
    10:30p Mavs-Suns ESPN
    Thursday, October 18
    8:00p Bulls-Sixers TNT
    10:30p Lakers-Blazers TNT
    Friday, October 19
    8:00p Celtics-Raptors ESPN
    10:30p Warriors-Jazz ESPN
    Saturday, October 20
    7:00p Raptors-Wizards NBA TV
    10:30p Rockets-Lakers ESPN
    Sunday, October 21
    9:00p Rockets-Clippers NBA TV
    Monday, October 22
    7:30p Magic-Celtics NBA TV
    10:30p Spurs-Lakers NBA TV
    Tuesday, October 23
    7:00p Sixers-Pistons NBA TV
    Wednesday, October 24
    7:00p Mavs-Hawks ESPN
    9:30p Sixers-Bucks ESPN
    Thursday, October 25
    8:00p Celtics-Thunder TNT
    10:30p Nuggets-Lakers TNT
    Friday, October 26
    7:30p Warriors-Knicks NBA TV
    10:00p Wizards-Kings NBA TV
    Monday, October 29
    8:00p Lakers-T’Wolves NBA TV
    Tuesday, October 30
    7:30p Sixers-Raptors NBA TV
    Wednesday, October 31
    8:00p Pacers-Knicks ESPN
    10:30p Spurs-Suns ESPN
    Thursday, November 1
    8:00p Bucks-Celtics TNT
    10:30p Pelicans-Blazers TNT
    Friday, November 2
    8:00p Thunder-Wizards ESPN
    10:30p T’Wolves-Warriors ESPN
    Saturday, November 3
    7:00p Celtics-Pacers NBA TV
    Monday, November 5
    8:00p Pelicans-Thunder NBA TV
    10:30p Grizzlies-Warriors NBA TV
    Tuesday, November 6
    8:30p Wizards-Mavs NBA TV
    Wednesday, November 7
    8:00p Sixers-Pacers ESPN
    10:30p T’Wolves-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, November 8
    8:00p Rockets-Thunder TNT
    10:30p Bucks-Warriors TNT
    Friday, November 9
    7:00p Hornets-Sixers NBA TV
    9:30p Celtics-Jazz ESPN
    Saturday, November 10
    8:30p Rockets-Spurs NBA TV
    Monday, November 12
    7:30p Pelicans-Raptors NBA TV
    10:30p Warriors-Clippers NBA TV
    Tuesday, November 13
    7:00p Hornets-Cavs NBA TV
    10:30p Hawks-Warriors NBA TV
    Wednesday, November 14
    8:00p Pelicans-T’Wolves ESPN
    10:30p Blazers-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, November 15
    8:00p Warriors-Rockets TNT
    10:30p Spurs-Clippers TNT
    Friday, November 16
    7:00p Raptors-Celtics ESPN
    9:30p Bulls-Bucks ESPN
    Saturday, November 17
    7:30p Jazz-Celtics NBA TV
    Sunday, November 18
    7:00p Warriors-Spurs NBA TV
    Monday, November 19
    7:00p Suns-Sixers NBA TV
    10:00p Thunder-Kings NBA TV
    Tuesday, November 20
    7:30p Blazers-Knicks NBA TV
    Wednesday, November 21
    8:00p Lakers-Cavs ESPN
    10:30p Thunder-Warriors ESPN
    Friday, November 23
    7:00p Rockets-Pistons NBA TV
    10:30p Jazz-Lakers NBA TV
    Saturday, November 24
    8:30p Spurs-Bucks NBA TV
    Monday, November 26
    7:00p Rockets-Wizards NBA TV
    Tuesday, November 27
    9:00p Lakers-Nuggets NBA TV
    Wednesday, November 28
    7:00p Knicks-Sixers NBA TV
    10:00p Magic-Blazers NBA TV
    Thursday, November 29
    8:00p Warriors-Raptors TNT
    10:30p Clippers-Kings TNT
    Friday, November 30
    8:00p Rockets-Spurs ESPN
    10:30p Nuggets-Blazers ESPN
    Saturday, December 1
    8:00p Celtics-T’Wolves NBA TV
    Monday, December 3
    7:00p Thunder-Pistons NBA TV
    Tuesday, December 4
    9:00p Spurs-Jazz NBA TV
    Wednesday, December 5
    8:00p Sixers-Raptors ESPN
    10:30p Spurs-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, December 6
    8:00p Knicks-Celtics TNT
    10:30p Rockets-Jazz TNT
    Friday, December 7
    7:00p Sixers-Pistons ESPN
    9:30p Warriors-Bucks ESPN
    Saturday, December 8
    7:30p Wizards-Cavs NBA TV
    Sunday, December 9
    6:00p Bucks-Raptors NBA TV
    Monday, December 10
    7:30p Pelicans-Celtics NBA TV
    10:30p Heat-Lakers NBA TV
    Tuesday, December 11
    8:00p Blazers-Rockets NBA TV
    10:30p Raptors-Clippers NBA TV
    Wednesday, December 12
    8:00p Thunder-Pelicans ESPN
    10:30p Raptors-Warriors ESPN
    Thursday, December 13
    8:00p Lakers-Rockets TNT
    10:30p Mavs-Suns TNT
    Friday, December 14
    7:30p Pacers-Sixers ESPN
    10:00p Thunder-Nuggets ESPN
    Saturday, December 15
    5:00p Jazz-Magic NBA TV
    Monday, December 17
    8:00p Jazz-Rockets NBA TV
    10:30p Grizzlies-Warriors NBA TV
    Tuesday, December 18
    7:30p Lakers-Nets NBA TV
    Wednesday, December 19
    7:30p Suns-Celtics NBA TV
    10:00p Thunder-Kings NBA TV
    Thursday, December 20
    8:00p Rockets-Heat TNT
    10:30p Mavs-Clippers TNT
    Friday, December 21
    8:00p Bucks-Celtics ESPN
    10:30p Pelicans-Lakers ESPN
    Saturday, December 22
    7:30p Raptors-Sixers NBA TV
    Tuesday, December 25
    12:00p Bucks-Knicks ESPN
    3:00p Thunder-Rockets ABC
    5:30p Sixers-Celtics ABC
    8:00p Lakers-Warriors ABC/ESPN
    10:30p Blazers-Jazz ESPN
    Wednesday, December 26
    7:30p Raptors-Heat NBA TV
    Thursday, December 27
    8:00p Celtics-Rockets TNT
    10:30p Sixers-Jazz TNT
    Friday, December 28
    8:00p Mavs-Pelicans NBA TV
    10:30p Clippers-Lakers NBA TV
    Saturday, December 29
    7:00p Rockets-Pelicans NBA TV
    10:00p Warriors-Blazers NBA TV
    Monday, December 31
    7:00p Celtics-Spurs NBA TV
    Tuesday, January 1, 2019
    7:30p Jazz-Raptors NBA TV
    Wednesday, January 2
    8:00p T’Wolves-Celtics ESPN
    10:30p Thunder-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, January 3
    8:00p Raptors-Spurs TNT
    10:30p Rockets-Warriors TNT
    Friday, January 4
    8:00p Wizards-Heat ESPN
    10:30p Thunder-Blazers ESPN
    Saturday, January 5
    8:30p Raptors-Bucks NBA TV
    Sunday, January 6
    6:00p Pacers-Raptors NBA TV
    Tuesday, January 8
    8:00p T’Wolves-Thunder NBA TV
    10:30p Knicks-Warriors NBA TV
    Wednesday, January 9
    8:00p Bucks-Rockets ESPN
    10:30p Pistons-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, January 10
    7:00p Celtics-Heat TNT
    9:30p Thunder-Spurs TNT
    Friday, January 11
    7:30p Pacers-Knicks ESPN
    10:00p Lakers-Jazz ESPN
    Saturday, January 12
    8:30p Spurs-Thunder NBA TV
    Sunday, January 13
    9:30p Cavs-Lakers NBA TV
    Monday, January 14
    8:30p Hornets-Spurs NBA TV
    Tuesday, January 15
    7:00p T’Wolves-Sixers NBA TV
    10:30p Bulls-Lakers NBA TV
    Wednesday, January 16
    8:00p Raptors-Celtics ESPN
    10:30p Pelicans-Warriors ESPN
    Thursday, January 17
    3:00p Knicks-Wizards NBA TV
    7:00p Sixers-Pacers TNT
    9:30p Lakers-Thunder TNT
    Friday, January 18
    8:00p Spurs-T’Wolves ESPN
    10:30p Pelicans-Blazers ESPN
    Saturday, January 19
    3:30p Thunder-Sixers ABC
    8:30p Lakers-Rockets ABC
    Monday, January 21
    12:30p Thunder-Knicks NBA TV
    3:00p Magic-Hawks NBA TV
    5:30p Pelicans-Grizzlies TNT
    8:00p Rockets-Sixers TNT
    10:30p Warriors-Lakers TNT
    Tuesday, January 22
    8:00p Blazers-Thunder NBA TV
    Wednesday, January 23
    8:00p Spurs-Sixers ESPN
    10:30p Nuggets-Jazz ESPN
    Thursday, January 24
    8:00p Warriors-Wizards TNT
    10:30p T’Wolves-Lakers TNT
    Friday, January 25
    8:00p Raptors-Rockets ESPN
    Saturday, January 26
    8:30p Warriors-Celtics ABC
    Sunday, January 27
    6:00p Bucks-Thunder ESPN
    Monday, January 28
    7:00p Warriors-Pacers NBA TV
    10:30p Hawks-Clippers NBA TV
    Tuesday, January 29
    8:00p Pelicans-Rockets TNT
    10:30p Sixers-Lakers TNT
    Wednesday, January 30
    8:00p Pacers-Wizards ESPN
    10:30p Jazz-Blazers ESPN
    Thursday, January 31
    8:00p Bucks-Raptors TNT
    10:30p Sixers-Warriors TNT
    Friday, February 1
    7:30p Celtics-Knicks ESPN
    10:00p Rockets-Nuggets ESPN
    Saturday, February 2
    8:30p Lakers-Warriors ABC
    Sunday, February 3
    2:00p Thunder-Celtics ABC
    Monday, February 4
    7:30p Bucks-Nets NBA TV
    10:00p Spurs-Kings NBA TV
    Tuesday, February 5
    8:00p Raptors-Sixers TNT
    10:30p Heat-Blazers TNT
    Wednesday, February 6
    8:00p Wizards-Bucks ESPN
    10:30p Spurs-Warriors ESPN
    Thursday, February 7
    8:00p Lakers-Celtics TNT
    10:30p Spurs-Blazers TNT
    Friday, February 8
    7:00p Nuggets-Sixers ESPN
    9:30p T’Wolves-Pelicans ESPN
    Saturday, February 9
    8:30p Thunder-Rockets ABC
    Sunday, February 10
    3:30p Lakers-Sixers ABC
    8:30p Heat-Warriors NBA TV
    Monday, February 11
    7:00p Wizards-Pistons NBA TV
    Tuesday, February 12
    8:00p Celtics-Sixers TNT
    10:30p Jazz-Warriors TNT
    Wednesday, February 13
    7:00p Nets-Cavs ESPN
    9:30p Rockets-T’Wolves ESPN
    Thursday, February 14
    8:00p Thunder-Pelicans TNT
    NBA ALL-STAR WEEKEND SCHEDULE
    TIME GAME NET
    Friday, February 15
    tbd Celebrity Game ESPN
    tbd Rising Stars Challenge TNT
    Saturday, February 16
    tbd All-Star Saturday Night TNT
    Sunday, February 17
    tbd NBA All-Star Game TNT
    NBA TV SCHEDULE, CONT’D
    TIME GAME NET
    Thursday, February 21
    8:00p Celtics-Bucks TNT
    10:30p Rockets-Lakers TNT
    Friday, February 22
    7:00p Spurs-Raptors ESPN
    9:30p Jazz-Thunder ESPN
    Saturday, February 23
    8:30p Rockets-Warriors ABC
    Sunday, February 24
    7:30p Spurs-Knicks NBA TV
    Monday, February 25
    8:00p Sixers-Pelicans NBA TV
    10:30p Mavs-Clippers NBA TV
    Tuesday, February 26
    8:00p Celtics-Raptors TNT
    10:30p Thunder-Nuggets TNT
    Wednesday, February 27
    8:00p Pistons-Spurs ESPN
    10:30p Pelicans-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, February 28
    7:00p T’Wolves-Pacers TNT
    9:30p Sixers-Thunder TNT
    Friday, March 1
    8:00p Wizards-Celtics ESPN
    10:30p Bucks-Lakers ESPN
    Saturday, March 2
    8:30p Warriors-Sixers ABC
    Sunday, March 3
    3:30p Rockets-Celtics ABC
    7:00p Grizzlies-Thunder NBA TV
    Monday, March 4
    7:30p Mavs-Nets NBA TV
    10:30p Clippers-Lakers NBA TV
    Tuesday, March 5
    8:00p Rockets-Raptors TNT
    10:30p Celtics-Warriors TNT
    Wednesday, March 6
    8:00p Sixers-Bulls ESPN
    10:30p Nuggets-Lakers ESPN
    Thursday, March 7
    8:00p Pacers-Bucks TNT
    10:30p Thunder-Blazers TNT
    Friday, March 8
    8:00p Sixers-Rockets ESPN
    10:30p Nuggets-Warriors ESPN
    Saturday, March 9
    8:30p Celtics-Lakers ABC
    Sunday, March 10
    3:30p Pacers-Sixers ABC
    6:00p Pelicans-Hawks NBA TV
    Sunday, March 10
    8:30p Suns-Warriors NBA TV
    Monday, March 11
    7:00p Raptors-Cavs NBA TV
    10:30p Celtics-Clippers NBA TV
    Tuesday, March 12
    8:00p Bucks-Pelicans TNT
    10:30p T’Wolves-Nuggets TNT
    Wednesday, March 13
    7:00p Pistons-Heat ESPN
    9:30p Warriors-Rockets ESPN
    Thursday, March 14
    8:00p Lakers-Raptors TNT
    10:30p Mavs-Nuggets TNT
    Friday, March 15
    7:00p Lakers-Pistons NBA TV
    10:30p Bulls-Clippers NBA TV
    Saturday, March 16
    8:30p Warriors-Thunder ABC
    Sunday, March 17
    3:30p Sixers-Bucks ABC
    9:00p T’Wolves-Rockets ESPN
    Monday, March 18
    8:00p Warriors-Spurs ESPN
    10:30p Pacers-Blazers ESPN
    Tuesday, March 19
    8:00p Lakers-Bucks NBA TV
    10:30p Pacers-Clippers NBA TV
    Wednesday, March 20
    7:00p Celtics-Sixers ESPN
    9:30p Raptors-Thunder ESPN
    Thursday, March 21
    7:00p Nuggets-Wizards NBA TV
    Friday, March 22
    8:00p Spurs-Rockets NBA TV
    Saturday, March 23
    7:30p Sixers-Hawks NBA TV
    10:00p Pistons-Blazers NBA TV
    Sunday, March 24
    7:30p Spurs-Celtics NBA TV
    Monday, March 25
    7:00p Sixers-Magic NBA TV
    10:00p Nets-Blazers NBA TV
    Tuesday, March 26
    8:00p Rockets-Bucks TNT
    10:30p Wizards-Lakers TNT
    Wednesday, March 27
    8:00p Pacers-Thunder ESPN
    10:30p Lakers-Jazz ESPN
    Thursday, March 28
    8:00p Nuggets-Rockets NBA TV
    Friday, March 29
    7:00p Pacers-Celtics NBA TV
    Saturday, March 30
    8:00p Sixers-T’Wolves NBA TV
    Sunday, March 31
    8:00p Wizards-Nuggets NBA TV
    Monday, April 1
    7:30p Heat-Celtics NBA TV
    10:00p Cavs-Suns NBA TV
    Tuesday, April 2
    8:00p Lakers-Thunder TNT
    10:30p Nuggets-Warriors TNT
    Wednesday, April 3
    7:30p Celtics-Heat NBA TV
    10:30p Rockets-Clippers NBA TV
    Thursday, April 4
    8:00p Bucks-Sixers TNT
    10:30p Warriors-Lakers TNT
    Friday, April 5
    8:00p Celtics-Pacers ESPN
    10:30p Blazers-Nuggets ESPN
    Saturday, April 6
    5:00p Nets-Bucks NBA TV
    8:00p Sixers-Bulls NBA TV
    Sunday, April 7
    Noon Heat-Raptors NBA TV
    3:30p Thunder-T’Wolves ABC
    6:00p Suns-Rockets NBA TV
    8:30p Clippers-Warriors NBA TV
    Tuesday, April 9
    7:00p Celtics-Wizards TNT
    9:30p Rockets-Thunder TNT
    Wednesday, April 10
    8:00p Magic-Hornets ESPN
    10:30p T’Wolves-Nuggets ESPN
    XMAS Games:



    Complete schedule: https://stats.nba.com/schedule/
     
  2. JCizzle

    JCizzle Member SoSH Member

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    I hate NBA TV games since they prevent league pass subscribers from watching a feed of their choosing. 12 this year is so dumb.
     
  3. Mystic Merlin

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    This Warriors ring ceremony sucks.

    They’re rolling out a banner from like the 1946 title team and handed out rings to the front office before the players. And they capped it off by lowering the players’ rings from the rafters.

    The Dentist looks a lot better having seen this I gotta say.
     
  4. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Very cool to bring up their equipment manager, who's been there 30 years.
     
  5. Mystic Merlin

    Mystic Merlin Member SoSH Member

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    That was definitely cool.
     
  6. Deathofthebambino

    Deathofthebambino Drive Carefully SoSH Member

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    This GS/OKC game will be over by halftime.
     
  7. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    Durant with a block and stairs down Russ on the bench. Is there a faker tough guy than Durant?
     
  8. ifmanis5

    ifmanis5 Member SoSH Member

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    Curry can still shoot.
     
  9. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    Everyone that isn’t Paul George on offense looks terrible for OKC. Schroder in particular looks bad. Tough to hang with GS when you only have one creator on offense.
     
  10. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Jordan Bell may be scary good for the Warriors.
     
  11. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Um, contrary to popular opinion, OKC did not cede this game at halftime. Impressive game thus far by the Westbrookless Thunder.
     
  12. Kliq

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    OKC has a ton of defensive potential; they have a lot of long, athletic players that are built to combat Golden State and Houston's switch-heavy offense. Golden State can hit some incredible shots, but if the effort and length is there on defense you can contain their offense. Plus they were missing Roberson.

    Their offense was hard to watch in the first half, although Schroder rebounded with a good second half to give Paul George a break from having to create every shot. With Westbrook obviously they'll have one of the best creators in the game, so if they can get consistent shooting from their other wing players OKC has a lot of potential because their defense can be that good.
     
  13. Sam Ray Not

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  14. HomeRunBaker

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    Arguably the most impressive 0/2/0/0/1 line we've seen in years.
     
  15. wade boggs chicken dinner

    wade boggs chicken dinner Member SoSH Member

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    I don't think I've seen anyone play a better 7 minutes.

    Although the Ws did get 22 points, 13 rebounds, 5 blocks and 4 assists from the C spot.
     
  16. HomeRunBaker

    HomeRunBaker bet squelcher SoSH Member

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  17. ElUno20

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    OKC's defense stood out last night. The difference without Melo is striking
     
  18. HomeRunBaker

    HomeRunBaker bet squelcher SoSH Member

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    As will the difference between Ariza/mbah a moute and Melo.
     
  19. Sam Ray Not

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    I might actually put Kevon Looney above Jordan Bell in my "may be scary good" book, if he can stay healthy. Loon's a year younger than Bell (came out of UCLA two years earlier, but as a 19 y.o. baby) and while he lacks Bell's explosive athleticism, has much better length (7'-4" wingspan, 9'-2" standing reach). Put up 10 pts, 10 rebounds (8 offensive), 2 assists, 1 steal and 2 blocks last night, and a team-high +23 in 18 minutes, while guarding anyone and everyone, from Dennis Schröder to Paul George to Steven Adams.

    The Warriors had actually put themselves in a tough spot in the offseason by having failed to pick up Looney's option year; and even in this offseason's relatively cash-strapped environment, it remains a total mystery to me how a skilled, high-character, 7'-4" wingspanned 22 year-old who can capably guard 1-5 and had just played productive minutes in the WCF & Finals could not find more than the cheapie $1.6M deal he got. I would have thought taking him off the Warriors might be reason enough to go harder after him for a team like Houston or the Lakers.

    Anyway, I'm stoked he stuck around. Bob Myers' stated plan was to get younger this offseason, and taking the training wheels off Jones/Looney/Bell and letting Zaza/West/McGee walk was a big part of that. Through one game, it seems like a sound plan — Damian Jones also looked good, last night and during the preseason — though I'm sure there will be some growing pains. On the bright side, even if they all regress, they have that DeMarcus fellow waiting in the wings in December or whenever.
     
  20. wade boggs chicken dinner

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    Well, if you're going to tout Kevon Looney, I just have to point out the he currently leads the league in ORtg (120.0), DTrg (64.1), Net Rating (55.9), and Off Rebounding % (34.8), while trailing only MaMo in Rebound %.

    I will note that for Defensive Rating, after Looney comes: Rozier, Tatum, Hayward, Smart, Baynes, and Horford, who is followed by KD and then Kyrie and Jaylen!

    Hopefully the season will end without change that leaderboard . . . .
     
  21. bosox79

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    It's only one half and the Hornets aren't a good team, but the Bucks have looked really good. Giannis is at 8 points, 11 rebounds and 7 assists.
     
  22. bosox79

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    Also, Vince Carter is starting for the Atlanta Hawks.
     
  23. DrewDawg

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  24. AMS25

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    Pelicans just crushed the Rockets, 131-112. Pelicans could be really good this year.
     
  25. bosox79

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    Barely held on to win.

    Also something to watch is Andre Drummond. Everyone knows about the improvement in FTs, but it looks like he may have added a 3 point shot.
     
  26. InstaFace

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    Yeah what happened there? Last year handing the Rockets an L required turning the Marcus Smart dial up to 11. They were really fucking good, probably the second best team in the league. I really doubt losing Ariza made much of a difference.

    Nonsense, I have it on good authority that he went to a non-ACC school, therefore it's all a sham and a mirage.
     
  27. Deathofthebambino

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    Twolves down 4 at San Antonio with 2 minutes left. KAT fouled out in 22 minutes, after taking only 6 shots from the field. Butler is 8-22 for 20 points and Wiggins is 7-16 for 18 points.
     
  28. Sam Ray Not

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    • Lost Ariza
    • Lost Mbah a Moute
    • Added Melo
    • Harden got kinda fat after winning his MVP
    • CP3 is 33.5
    • Lost defensive guru Jeff Bzdelik (who likely wanted no part of constructing a perimeter defense around chubby Harden and Melo)

    I mean, one-game sample alert. And the Pels are a really good young team (Blazers say hi) who made one of the best under-the-radar signings of the offseason in Randle. Their bench seems a little thin, but AD is a Top 4 NBA player, and I really like how their core pieces fit together (AD, Randle, Holiday, Payton, Mirotic, Moore).

    Still: I'm pretty much on the "the Rockets' D is trash and their window has closed" bandwagon.
     
  29. Kliq

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    I’m not sure how many 30-10 games New Orleans is going to get out of Nikola Mirotic.
     
  30. HomeRunBaker

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    Losing Ariza and Mbah a Moute…..and replacing them with Carmelo and James Ennis is a significant culture change to that lineup especially on the defensive end.
     
  31. HomeRunBaker

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    Phoenix up 16 in the 3rd over the Mavericks. Ariza leading the way with a 21/5/3 including 5 3's midway through the 3rd. Canaan and Okobo have played all of the Suns PG minutes and there has even been a Tyson Chandler sighting.
     
  32. bosox79

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    Booker finished with 35 points on 12/19 shooting with 4 rebounds, 7 assists and 3 TO.

    Ayton finished with 18 points on 8/11 shooting, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal, 1 block and 0 TO.

    Interesting.
     
  33. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    Boban had 18 points and 8 rebounds in 17 minutes, and also had this dunk. His vertical is unreal:

     
  34. HomeRunBaker

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    Boban has looked good whenever he's played and now Doc is finally expanding his told. Guy was dominant in the preseason.
     
  35. ConigliarosPotential

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    Trae Y.: 5/14, 14 pts, 6 ast, 5 reb, 4 TO, 1/5 3fg, 3/4 FT, Hawks lose by 19 on the road to a 29-win team from last year.
    Doncic: 5/16, 10 pts, 4 ast, 8 reb, 4 TO, 0/5 3fg, 0/2 FT, Mavs lose by 21 on the road to a 21-win team from last year.

    Heh.
    This was nice:
     
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    Tucker, Paul, Gordon, Melo, and our old friend Gerald Green are all >30 years old.
     
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    Watched the first half in Phoenix. The Suns couldn't miss and the Mavs couldn't throw the ball into the ocean.
     
  38. HomeRunBaker

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    Doncic shot 33% from 3 vs Euro length defenders last year. He won't shoot 0-5 every night but this isn't surprising for the time being. He is going to be a good/solid player but I don't see this elite upside that others do. We'll see.

    There was a Tweet last night somewhere showing Kevin Knox and Mitchell Robinson doubling Vince Carter in a trip with the caption, "Vince Carter is 2 years older than both of these rookies combined age!"
     
  39. Kliq

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    Keep digging into the "Doncic is overrated" hole.
     
  40. the moops

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    That somewhere is on this very page, about half way up :)
     
  41. Big John

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    Dennis Smith and Wesley Matthews were just as bad. At least Doncic made some nice passes. Meanwhile, the Suns shot 55% as a team from beyond the arc. That won't happen every night either. The two that Isaiah Canaan made in the first half were from 30+ feet.
     
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    Bill Simmons' 'mortal lock' bet on the Mavs over looks dubious right now.
     
  43. wade boggs chicken dinner

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    I had mostly seen Doncic through videos but when I saw him last night (briefly) he struck me as being a lot bigger than I remember. They say he's 218 but he looks bigger than that.

    He's got good feet and makes players play at his speed. I don't know if he'll be a top 20 player in this league but he's good enough to win with.

     
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    Almost as dubious as finding too much meaning in the first game of the season on the road
     
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    It will happen every night because Dallas is awful defensively. Luka will be a stud, though.
     
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    I knew I saw it somewhere lol.


    This is where I'm at. I'll peg him as a guy who may sneak onto the back end of an All-Star team once or twice and be a real solid player but certainty not one to revolutionize the game as some have portrayed. I don't know if that's over or underrating.....it depends what your opinion is on his upside.
     
  47. Kliq

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    Donic's upside to me is somewhere near Ben Simmons' upside. He's not quite as explosive or long as Simmons, but he has the same vision and ball handling abilities, and he's still really big for a primary ball-handler. He is also a much better shooter than Simmons, even if you thought that he should have shot a better percentage from three in Europe. He also has the potential to be a good, multi-positional defender that theoretically could eventually guard 1-4 in the NBA. The intangibles, the accomplishments he has done at such a young age, the competitive drive, is perhaps his most outstanding aspect.
     
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    That "not quite" is doing a lot of work there. To my eye, he's not nearly as explosive as Simmons, who can get blow by good defenders regularly despite not having the threat of a jump shot. Of course Doncic does carry that threat, both spot up and off the dribble, which differentiates him from Simmons. I agree with the rest and I think he's smart, savvy and skilled enough to compensate for below-average NBA athleticism. Given that, I think strength & conditioning and shooting will a long way to determining his ceiling. He has the frame to add the muscle needed to defend bigs and develop a post game. I kinda see his floor as a rich-man's (stronger, better passer, more assertive) of the good version of Nic Batum. That may sound like I'm underselling him, but that's a really good "floor" player. I think he'll have growing pains, but I'm buying long term.
     
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    I'll agree that Doncic is not as explosive as Simmons nor is nearly as good as a multi-positional defender. These are two of the primary reasons why I don't have his upside near that of Simmons who doesn't need a perimeter shot as he easily gets whenever he wants on the floor with the ball. This is one part of Simmons game where my evaluation differs from many. It will prevent him from being LeBron.....not from being a perennial All-Star.

    I place zero weight on Doncic's accomplishments overseas against Tyrese Rice and similar non-NBA players. I evaluate ones skillset not their production. If it were the latter I'd have an erection over Jimmer Fredette.
     
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    I agree in the sense that Simmons is still going to be a star player even if he can never hit a shot outside of 15 feet; although I'd argue that it could end up being a fatal flaw in his game that won't just prevent him from being the next LeBron, but prevent him from being the primary player on a championship team because that's a serious issue as we learned in the series against the Celtics. I do think that shooting is overrated for players like Simmons and Giannis; because they are so uniquely long and explosive that you can't let them build up a head of steam by playing off of them on defense. You can't just sag off them the way you could DeAndre Jordan, or Dwight Howard.

    As to your second point, there is obviously a difference between Jimmer putting up empty stats in the CBA, a league which is heavily weighted towards the two foreign players you are allowed to have on a team, and Doncic as a teenager being the MVP of the EuroLeague. His success as a teenager is unprecedented and he's shown the ability to thrive in a professional environment against grown men. I'm not going to say that is going to equal dominance in the NBA, but it tells me something about his intangibles and ability to thrive in a fiercely competitive environment.
     

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