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2018 MLB Draft Uber-Thread

Discussion in 'Red Sox Forum' started by Cuzittt, May 31, 2018.

  1. Cuzittt

    Cuzittt Bouncing with Anger Dope

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    Draft begins Monday, June 4th.
     
  2. uk_sox_fan

    uk_sox_fan Member SoSH Member

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    ESPN with surprisingly nice things to say about Boston's history in the draft:

    edit: and they could have added: Ninth round: Travis Shaw (2011)
     
  3. uk_sox_fan

    uk_sox_fan Member SoSH Member

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    Also interesting that of the current Top 5 position players in WPA, 4 were drafted by the Sox (and the 5th, Segura, was an international FA):

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     Rank  Player    WPA  Year  Rnd Pick
      1.  Betts      2.60 2011  5th  172
      2.  Benintendi 2.31 2015  1st    7
      3.  Lowrie     1.82 2005  1st   45
      4.  Segura     1.80
      5.  Shaw       1.75 2011  9th  292
     
  4. TimScribble

    TimScribble Member SoSH Member

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    When:
    June 4th. Pre-coverage 6 p.m. Draft starts at 7 p.m. - rounds 1-2.
    June 5th. 1 p.m. - rounds 3 - 10.
    June 6th. 12 p.m. - rounds 11 - 40.

    Where to watch:
    MLB Network and MLB.com

    Tonight is the first and second round of the 2018 MLB draft. After making the post season last year, the Red Sox will be picking #26.

    A few of the names that have been attached to the Red Sox at pick 26.

    Seth Beer - Clemson, OF/1B
    Most likely a DH in the pros. Has shown flashes of power and plus hitting tool.

    Ryan Rolinson - Mississippi, LHP
    Low 90s fastball with deception and curve. Some delivery concerns. Draft eligible sophomore, could cost more.

    Steele Walker - Oklahoma, OF
    Improved each year offensively. Only 5’11, could end up at a corner infield spot.

    Brice Turang - Santiago HS, SS
    Came into year as a potential top 5 pick. Took a step back this year.

    Jeremy Eierman - Missouri St, SS
    Has plus speed, plus arm and power. Took a step back this year.

    Triston Casas - American Heritage HS, 1B
    Huge Power potential. Could be Beer but with defense.

    Ethan Hankins - Forsyth Central HS, RHP
    Could go in the top 10. Had a shoulder injury after his junior year.

    Jordan Groshans - Magnolia HS, 3B
    Big Bat out of HS


    **Took names and recaps from Masslive.com, MLB.com, CBSSports.com
     
  5. burstnbloom

    burstnbloom Member SoSH Member

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    Casas is the guy I can't help but drool over. Most mocks have him going in the teens, unfortunately, but hopefully he falls. Turang was the guy this time last year but the publications seem more sour on him now. I'm not sure why, having never seen him play.

    I am hoping for a high school bat at this point. None of the college arms that will be around appear all that exciting and the college bats have lots of warts. That's probably not the right move with a system so thin, but the heart wants what it wants.
     
  6. ehaz

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    Ew. If we draft Beer, I don’t want “flashes” of power and a good hit tool. I realize it’s a late first but Jesus, anything below hitting his comp and he’s near useless as a 21 year old already limited to DH.
     
  7. TimScribble

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    Yeah, a lot of the reports say he regressed each year.
     
    #7 TimScribble, Jun 4, 2018
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  8. Buzzkill Pauley

    Buzzkill Pauley Member SoSH Member

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    I hope the Brewers draft Beer. Some things just need to happen.
     
  9. chawson

    chawson Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter

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  10. Schnerres

    Schnerres Member SoSH Member

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    I want Casas!
     
  11. soxhop411

    soxhop411 Member SoSH Member

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    I’m still pissed We can’t trade draft picks.
     
  12. Merkle's Boner

    Merkle's Boner Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Not good at the embedding thang but Keith Law tweeted that he’s hearing Casas to the Marlins at 13.
     
  13. TimScribble

    TimScribble Member SoSH Member

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    Yeah, Casas has jumped up the boards recently.
     
  14. grimshaw

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    Fangraphs has him falling down to us. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-mlb-mock-draft-v-3-0/

    I'd like to see catcher addressed early though I guess there is a big drop off after Bart. Maybe Will Banfield?
    https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=418536
     
    #14 grimshaw, Jun 4, 2018
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  15. nighthob

    nighthob Member SoSH Member

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    I wish MLB would join the 20th century in this regard.
     
  16. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I’ve seen a lot of Beer. Monster year as a freshman. Was pitched much more carefully the last two years and still posted OPS north of 1000 all years. His power is legit, he’s mainly pull but has power to opposite field. K/BB is great. Short controlled stroke. Has ability to drive all types of pitches, isn’t a dead red hitter.

    But the defensive side of things is complicated. Just a weird un-athletic looking runner for someone that has the size and frame to move much better. I’d say he’s in the defensive ability and movement range of JD Martinez. Makes basic plays in OF, not going to run things down. Clemson tried to convert him to a corner infielder the last two falls and he ended up in RF every year.

    But the hit tool is legit.
     
  17. RedOctober3829

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    I want Beer. He has the chance to be a fast riser in the system.
     
  18. uncannymanny

    uncannymanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Doesn’t sound like he has good hops, though.
     
  19. strek1

    strek1 Member SoSH Member

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    Pitching pitching pitching. But do we know who to pick? We haven't been very good at that.
     
  20. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    6'3", 195 pounds -- sounds a little light.
     
  21. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Casey Mize related to Johnny by any chance?
     
  22. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Sounds like an Ultra
     
  23. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    So, like Ranaudo and Houck!
     
  24. RedOctober3829

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    Kyler Murray, Oklahoma starting QB, just went #9 to Oakland.
     
  25. nvalvo

    nvalvo Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    So that either means we should pick pitchers until we hit on one, or it means we should pick the kinds of athletic CF types that we clearly have an organizational competency in identifying and developing, and then trade them for pitching, as we've done with Josh Reddick, Manuel Margot, Luis Alexander Basabe, etc., etc.
     
  26. ehaz

    ehaz Member SoSH Member

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    That's why we need a fast rising helium pick. Like Trey Ball!
     
  27. strek1

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    Quite a quandry isn't it?
     
  28. ehaz

    ehaz Member SoSH Member

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    Weird, MLB has him at #36 overall. Must be a below slot deal but usually that's not for two-sport athletes?
     
  29. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    It's Oakland. 99% a below slot deal.
     
  30. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    He's never dedicated himself to baseball so Oakland is banking on him making a big improvement once he is finished with football. He's a stud athlete who has really good power and speed. Picking him in the top 10 is basically paying for him to give up football.
     
  31. AMS25

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    Eh, we'll see. Lincoln Riley has been sure that he'd pick football. I had one of Murray's teammates last semester; he said Murray knew he'd have a better chance of a professional career in baseball.
     
  32. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I still have PTSD whenever I hear Trey Ball's name...
     
  33. RedOctober3829

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    I don't think Riley thought he'd go top 10. That has to complicate things.
     
  34. AMS25

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    True. I wonder if Oakland knows something we don't know.....
     
  35. nvalvo

    nvalvo Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Giants fans regularly complain that they haven't drafted and developed an All Star outfielder since Chili Davis.

    edit: hell, one of the best non-Bonds OF seasons they've had in that span came from Ellis Burks.
     
  36. ehaz

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    I wonder what's going on with Brady Singer...
     
  37. strek1

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    What's with all the High Schoolers being taken? Do Some of these teams know they can't pay enough to sign a ready to go prospect so they're trying for a long shot? (I don't mean long shot talent -wise, but a hardship kid they might talk out of college who could agree to take less cash right away?)
     
  38. TimScribble

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    Groshans goes at 12. Marlins don’t select Casas.
     
  39. ehaz

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    The Rays got a freaking steal in Liberatore. #2 overall BA, #4 overall MLB. Scouting reports, polish, and size remind you a lot about Bumgarner.
     
    #39 ehaz, Jun 4, 2018
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  40. strek1

    strek1 Member SoSH Member

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    There you go #18 Kansas City (Pedro loves him "Safest bet in the draft")
     
  41. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    It's easy to play first base?
     
  42. AMS25

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    Ron Washington: "No, it's hard."

    I'm not sure I'd give up a first round pick for someone who's got two years of football eligibility left....
     
  43. ehaz

    ehaz Member SoSH Member

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    Damn I was hoping Gorman would fall to us.
     
  44. E5 Yaz

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    Don't worry, the sun will set, the sun will rise and you'll have lunch
     
  45. oumbi

    oumbi Member SoSH Member

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    How long does a team have to make a pick in the first round?
     
  46. TimScribble

    TimScribble Member SoSH Member

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    Brewers pass on Beer, take Turang.
     
  47. E5 Yaz

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    Rockies are next, though
     
  48. TimScribble

    TimScribble Member SoSH Member

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    Rockies take Rolison.
     
  49. oumbi

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    MFY now have possession of Seigler. Was ranked #46 according to MLB.
     
  50. Sox and Rocks

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    Interesting player for the MFYS. Many of my fellow Rockies fans were convinced the rox would take him.
     

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