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2018 ALCS. Game Fucking One!

Discussion in '2018 Red Sox Game Threads' started by Trotsky, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    He crushed one in the 9th right at Reddick. Brock isn’t done with 2018 just yet.
     
  2. NJ_Sox_Fan

    NJ_Sox_Fan Member SoSH Member

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    The error by NunEz sucked the life out of the stadium right after the Sox tied it up
     
  3. Ferm Sheller

    Ferm Sheller Member SoSH Member

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    I’m hard pressed to think of a league championship series with a bigger discrepancy in bullpen talent than this one.
     
  4. BigSoxFan

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    This is basically it. The error never gave the Sox a chance to put some real pressure on the Astros.
     
  5. teddywingman

    teddywingman Looks like Zach Galifianakis SoSH Member

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    Yep.
     
  6. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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    without that error it's possibly a 2-2 game in the 9th, Kimbrel is in, and we have a chance to steal an ugly one.

    so yes, it was closer than the final score in a way, but it was really bad baseball.

    I didn't really want Devers in there due to this scenario - a critical 3B error giving away a bunch of win probability on a game. but of course Nunez ends up delivering anyways, fucker.
     
  7. dynomite

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    What about... last season?

    The Astros/Yankees ALCS featured the Yankees, a team with the 3rd best bullpen ERA in baseball (3.34) and a murderers row of Robertson/Betances/Chapman, against the Astros, with the 17th ranked bullpen ERA (4.27) — who had to stop using their closer in the playoffs because he was such a disaster. None of that stopped the Astros from advancing to and winning the World Series.

    (For comparisons sake, this year it’s the #1 bullpen ERA against the #9.)
     
  8. Old Fart Tree

    Old Fart Tree the maven of meat Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Whatever, the Sox had no business winning this game. Christ they walked half the fucking planet. Ugh.

    Come strong or not at all, Price.
     
  9. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    HOU's 4 wins in that series had Verlander/Keuchel/Morton/McCullers combined for 1 run allowed in 32 innings. This doesn't really change your point, but it's hard to see BOS coming up with 4 games of SP performance like that (McCullers was in relief of Morton, but he was a SP all year), especially with Sale not doing it in this one.
     
  10. gtmtnbiker

    gtmtnbiker Member SoSH Member

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    Ugh is right. They walked ***TEN*** batters compared to four by the Astros.
     
  11. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    That was awful. Let’s hope it’s a one off. It’s only one game out of seven. This shit ain’t over.
     
  12. normstalls

    normstalls Member SoSH Member

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    That’s a bit of hyperbole... one can be pissed and frustrated about a very pathetic effort tonight, yet still fully on board and hoping/expecting the Sox to win the series. Extremists are kinda lame.
     
  13. Sox and Rocks

    Sox and Rocks Member SoSH Member

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    Very lame, not kinda...
     
  14. Sox and Rocks

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    My two takeaways:

    1. frustrating as hell. The Sox weren't outplayed so much as out lucked.

    2. I hope Nunez and Workman don't see the field again in this series unless the game is out of reach either way.
     
  15. Sox and Rocks

    Sox and Rocks Member SoSH Member

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    Nunez?

    Could/should have played Holt and Devers at 2nd and 3rd.
     
  16. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    Yeah, I don’t think Cora has deserved much second guessing, but Nunez over Devers is one to make a note on. Also why is Swihart on the roster if he isn’t going to play?
     
  17. Sox and Rocks

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    Amen. The only thing more frustrating than this game and the umpiring are the chicken littles in this game thread
     
  18. Papelbon's Poutine

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    Amen here too (but can I still watch the Pats?)
     
  19. LogansDad

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    The fact that it happened right after the egregiously bad strike 3 call on Benitendi that completely bailed out Verlander, and it felt like that was pretty much the game.

    That was a frustrating one to watch. They will play better tomorrow, though.
     
  20. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    C'mon guys. Who here really thought either of these teams was going to sweep the other? Get a grip. The two best teams in MLB this year. Of course there was going to be blood spilled on both sides. Rub some dirt on it and get back at them Sunday.
     
  21. Rovin Romine

    Rovin Romine Johnny Rico Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Honestly, I put this one on the Umps.

    1) Going up one early on Verlander can't be undervalued.
    2) An equal strike zone to Verlander and Sale would have prolonged Sale's game life, or shortened Verlander's.

    The Sox, including Nunez and Workman didn't exactly cover themselves in Glory, but with average umpiring, this becomes a much tighter game.

    Hopefully we bounce back in Game 2.

    IMO, Game 2 will be the legacy "character" game, where we see how this team plays after being dealt a stinker, and seeing their Astros Pitching Plan not really work as well as they hoped. It's a lot of pressure on Price, but that's what he gets paid the big bucks for.
     
  22. BaseballJones

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    Very true. As was pointed out in the game thread, his rocket ground out to third was hit harder than Springer’s two run single, and obviously a lot harder than Correa’s broken bat single that gave Houston the lead.

    He easily could have had two hits tonight.

    And made a great running catch and then had the play early on that short pop to right where he couldn’t make the catch (I’m sure he was distracted by Pearce) and then gunned the runner out at second.

    The AB that bothered me by Mookie was grounding out in the fifth during that rally where Verlander has walked the bases loaded and on the first pitch he hit a grounder to third. Yes it was a pitch he should have handled better so I can see jumping on it. But also...Verlander was a mess at that point. Make him work a little. Then Mookie grounds out and Benintendi gets screwed and then moments later JoeK hits Bregman and Nunez ruins the game.

    BTW, tonight’s game is really important but not a must win. Porcello and Eovaldi could win games 3 and 4. My real concern is Sale. He looked like a soft tossing crafty veteran lefty out there, not CHRIS SALE. That’s a real problem moving forward here.
     
  23. ObstructedView

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    This is how I felt in the moment, but you can also make the argument that it's perfectly consistent with Cora's "do damage"' approach which has been so successful: be ready to jump on a get-me-over fastball and drive in some runs. As with so many things in baseball, a moment that's just an isolated blip over the course of a very long season is magnified and takes on outsize importance within the crucible of a playoff series.
     
  24. TheoShmeo

    TheoShmeo Skrub's sympathy case Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Yep, I think it will be very hard to get past this team, never mind the NL WS team, if last night's Sale is essentially what we are going to see the rest of the way.

    The other thing that has to change, immediately, is the production level of 1-4 in the line-up. Those guys key the offense and they've been tepid by their standards, at varying degrees.

    Without those 5 players performing as they have/can, the Sox will have a very hard time winning.
     
  25. dhappy42

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    I turned it off after Reddick’s HR. Has Workman thrown a strike yet?
     
  26. lapa

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    It’ll be interesting to see what the story is with Sale once the season ends, like exactly what injury was lingering and how they tried to manage it, it’s weird that he came back from the first sign of it throwing 100, then this prolonged in/out/rest/warmup stretch for the last bit of the season but when his fastball starts at 91, even on a cold day, I think somethings wrong with him.such a shame as early season Sale would have made this a much more promising series. Let’s hope Price comes up big tonight. I’m sure we will not get swept in Houston so it would be good to see Sale have a chance to show his best stuff. A 7 game ALCS would be fitting but damn Houston is good ( say what you want about 108 wins best team ever blah blah the Astros look better on paper and on the field, hats off to them)
     
  27. BroodsSexton

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    Has nobody .gif’d the throw that hit Joe West?
     
  28. jaytftwofive

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    It's a pretty cool city and the cost of living, housing etc..... is so low compared to the east coast. I don't like it as much as Dallas or Austin but it's nice. Dallas has a cooler downtown.
     
  29. BoSoxLady

    BoSoxLady Rules Red Sox Nation with an Iron Fist Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The same people who were on the ledge after the Game 2 loss to the Yankees. They come across as entitled Pats fans. Did they start following the Sox in 2003?
     
  30. Al Zarilla

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    Why drag the Pats into it? If you’re talking about a Pats gamethread when things aren’t going well, I think you get a distribution of posts all the way from “it’s all over for Brady-Belichick” to “no worries, we always have a bad game early like this on the way to the super bowl.” That’s pretty normal for any team’s message board, including the Sox game threads.
     
  31. 54thMA

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    The bigger question is how did that many Astors fans get to Boston from Houston in time for game one traveling in prairie schooners?
     
  32. 54thMA

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    His buffoonery at third base was responsible for three runs, the Red Sox should have been up 2-0 going into the top of the ninth if he hadn't slipped on that two out grounder that led to two runs and butchered the transfer that should have been a double play that led to another run.
     
  33. Ale Xander

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    Probably 2011
     
  34. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Your first answer was better
     

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