2017 Yankees Offseason Discussion
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I'm just waking up, but evidently Cashman does not sleep.
Cashman loves him some exit velocity.
I have said it before, but I think the main thing keeping them from trying to trade for Machado (besides the fact that people love Andujar and say he is ready now) is trading what would certainly be a ton of young talent to a division rival. If Machado was on the Brewers with a year left on his deal and seemingly no chance of resigning, I think it would be a lot more likely NY would go after him hard now.
Another ramification here is one less guy in the way of German and Adams and Sheffield getting their shots, although I am sure Cashman will still bring in a 5th guy ahead of them, ideally those guys will start the season as the next options.
I'd think it would depend more on the type of players/prospects being sent. If they weren't near immediate type pieces I don't think it would factor in as much there. Especially if the O's do indeed go into full sell mode.
That said, I'm also guessing the O's end up getting in their own way there by not being very realistic about what should be coming back.
I wonder if Cashman sends out 400 dumb trade offers a day knowing at some point a GM will hit the accept button by accident.
I just think it makes much more sense for NY to wait if they want Machado, and it would give them a year to see what they have in Andujar. Torres also could play 3B, and Wade and Estrada are fairly highly regarded prospects already on the 40 man also, so they could spend the whole season with those four and Torreyes at 2B/3B (all five have options) and then go hard after Machado next winter if needed.
So combining the Stanton and Headley trades, NY took on basically no money for this year while adding Stanton, moving three guys who had no future here (Castro, Headley, Mitchell), and including one very good (but not close to the majors) prospect in Guzman. Cashman deserves a raise from the 5/25 deal he just signed this week.
If my math is correct, the Yankees now have $33 million to play with under the luxury tax threshold?
I can't believe San Diego is paying full freight.
I can't believe San Diego is paying full freight.
I hate everything that is happening with this Yankees organization. blech. Cashman trades for the NL MVP, moves his expensive medicore 2b and 3b, gives up one good prospect and replaces the holes with premium prospects ready to make the leap. Also, he's salary cap neutral when the dust clears. Can we go back to when the Yankees were dumb and just spent crazy money, please?
100% agree with this. On the other side of this trade, it also gives us another year to see Machado who did not have his best year last year.
They evidently really like Mitchell, someone will also value Cessa when they send him out too.
Have there been rumors about Darvish's potential price? I wonder if Cashman would consider just signing him, but maybe too long a commitment.
On my last note, Machado gets a lot more praise for his offense than I think he deserves. The power is obviously there but he has only had two standout seasons.
This was my thought exactly. What the F’ing F is SD doing bailing out NYY from their bad contracts. Ridiculous trade.
They like the pitcher but it really is a questionable trade. There are bats you could get who will be cheaper and put up better production. Headley was not as good as hit late season hot streak.
But they were his age 22 and 23 seasons and he's still super young. Last year wasn't too shabby either, he just started cold as hell.
Cashman is a black magic wizard. But I am glad he is our black magic wizard. (And by "our" I mean this small sub forum.)
It's the only explanation.
What is there to like about Bryan Mitchell? He’s a 26-year-old with straight-ass fastball who posted a 4.68 K/9 last year. His 11.1 K% was one of the very worst in the majors last year. Decent ground ball rate, which is less important in SD than virtually anywhere.
He only pitched 30 innings in the bigs last year, they have been jerking him around, up and down and sitting a lot, for the last couple of seasons, and the Padres will be able to give him a chance in the rotation, presumably. He had 66 Ks in 63 innings in AAA in between his big league stints. Preller was just on MLBN and seems excited about him.
This is one of the best posts I've seen on SOSH in a very long time.
Mostly because it could very well true, in that if you send out enough crazy trade proposals, you're bound to get a GM foolish, crazy, or distracted enough to say yes.
Unless Preller somehow thinks Headley is going to help lift his team to the playoffs next year, he just spent 13 million for the rights to Mitchell.
I mean come on - and how does an owner sign off on that???
I mean come on - and how does an owner sign off on that???
Is it possible that Headley is a favorite in SD, and they think he'll help attendance and jersey sales?
Looking back over the myriad great trades Cashman has pulled off during his tenure I have concluded that his greatest skill is accurately gauging other GM's interest levels, allowing him to force moves, call bluffs, and wait them out.
Headley only has one more year, and Mitchell makes about what Blash made, so it's not as though the Padres took on a big financial commitment.
The question is what Cashman does with Headley's money. In addition to a starting pitcher, I'd like to see them add another left handed bat.
The question is what Cashman does with Headley's money. In addition to a starting pitcher, I'd like to see them add another left handed bat.
I still can’t believe Cashman was able to get Gleyber for a rental but that’s a situation where he was dealing with what had to be the most Go For it Now team in history.
Especially since he should be on the Reds - but for their absolute buffoon of a GM.
Well, Cashman looks for opportunities he can take advantage of. Getting Chapman the first time, trading Chapman (and then Miller after setting the price for a dominant reliever), and the acquisition of Stanton are just a few examples.
I wouldn't mind having Frazier back on a one year deal. Andujar can still get worked in, and if Cashman is interested, that's enough of an indicator for me that Frazier is a good clubhouse presence.
MLB Trade rumors is just a guess, but they are predicting 3 years $33M for Frazier. If that's the case, he doesn't present much savings over Headley for next year and would have a longer contract. I wonder if he likes playing for the Yankees enough to come in at less money? Or maybe the FO just likes him more than Headley?
Playing close to home might be a factor too.
Regardless, I'm sure Cashman won't feel any pressure to overextend on a contract offer. Frazier and CC both, really.
After trading Headley, there's no way they re-sign Frazier unless it's for a huge discount whether it's one year or a multi year deal. And I see no reason for him to accept a huge discount.
The way that Cashman is cuttling loose everyone he can in favor of youth, players and manager/coaches alike, makes me dubious that he will go after Frazier, but honestly I trust him completely at this point and am just happy to sit back and watch the man work.
Wow, Headley not even guaranteed a starting spot on the Padres, and may even be flipped.
Per Preller: “I talked to Chase this morning and explained to him that we’re going to look at the situation and figure out if there’s space for everybody, was very honest, telling him we’re going to talk to other clubs as well.”
Per Preller: “I talked to Chase this morning and explained to him that we’re going to look at the situation and figure out if there’s space for everybody, was very honest, telling him we’re going to talk to other clubs as well.”
You’re taking all $13 million of Headleys contract and you don’t ask for Warren instead of Mitchell?
Mitchell has upside (theoretically anyway), Warren is a $5M setup guy who will be a FA after this year.