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2017 Golf Thread

Discussion in 'General Sports' started by Koufax, Jan 25, 2016.

  1. The Four Peters

    The Four Peters Dope Dope

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    Annnnnd Wachusett just canceled my tee time. Looks like they're not opening until next weekend. In scramble mode right now to find somewhere.
     
  2. Comfortably Lomb

    Comfortably Lomb Koko the Monkey SoSH Member

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    I love my Ping driver. It's ridiculously forgiving on off-center contact. Maybe the better players would prefer to give up some of that for a few extra yards but for my game (or lack thereof) it's a good fit.

    Paying for a fitting is news to me. I thought the whole point was to encourage a fitting so you could see what a few hundred dollars will do for your game off the tee.
     
  3. Light-Tower-Power

    Light-Tower-Power Member SoSH Member

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    Amherst CC in S NH opened their front nine and few holes on the back today. Pretty much played out of my mind considering I hadn't hit a ball or made a putt since early December and it was 40 degrees with a 20 mph wind. Definitely feels good to be back out there even in tough conditions.
     
  4. The Four Peters

    The Four Peters Dope Dope

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    We played at Butterbrook today. Was in surprisingly good conditions considering the weather. Shot a 92, no complaints overall.

    Playing redtail on Monday.
     
  5. Comfortably Lomb

    Comfortably Lomb Koko the Monkey SoSH Member

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    A few trips to the range over the past week suggest I'm looking at another year of solid/reliable iron play and a wildly inconsistent driver.

    I'm thinking of spending some serious time on the practice green working on mid-range putts.
     
  6. Byrdbrain

    Byrdbrain Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Seems like we have the same game. I've typically backed off and used 3W or a 3 utility more than I should to make up for my inconsistent driver. A real goal this year is that I will hit driver when the hole calls for it.

    I played Friday and 20 to 30 footers killed me, I think I had 4 three puts from that range. I was leaving 5 feet all day and I didn't make many of those.

    League starts tomorrow and I'm going to have to stop doing that.
     
  7. bostonbeerbelly

    bostonbeerbelly Member SoSH Member

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    My club opened the 11th and I was able to find time to get out on Friday.

    Front 9 was awful - 4 out of bound tee shots, led to 4 triple bogeys. added in 3 pars, a bogey and a double to make me wonder what the hell I was doing out there.

    Back 9 was what always keeps me coming back - lost a ball on 10 from the tee...made triple, and then settled in. On the next 8 holes had par or birdie putts all within 8 feet to shoot a 40 back.

    Once I finish up my major orders for the year in the next two weeks, hopefully will be out there 3/4 times a week - and need to focus on keeping the ball in play.
     
  8. Comfortably Lomb

    Comfortably Lomb Koko the Monkey SoSH Member

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    I'm effectively as wild with my 3-wood, just 30 yards shorter. It's feast or famine with my woods. Either I stripe them or I'm way off the fairway. 50/50ish.

    It's tough to take much away from putting this time of year. Greens are still recovering. I try not to put much into putting results the first few weeks.

    Well, off to the range...
     
  9. Phragle

    Phragle wild card bitches SoSH Member

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    I think most drivers are too long out of the box. I've always had the most success with it cut down an inch to between 45-44.5"
     
  10. dhappy42

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    Agree. I always cut down my drivers to 44-45". Be mindful that in doing so you change the swing weight (lighter) and flex (stiffer) and you might need adjustments (lead tape or hot melt) to correct.

    Here's an article from retired club fitter/builder Tom Wishon about driver length and about how nearly everyone plays a driver that's too long for them.

    http://wishongolf.com/3-critical-keys-to-increasing-driver-distance/

     
  11. jercra

    jercra Member SoSH Member

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    I was going to post something from Tom Wishon in response to Phragle but I couldn't find it online. He's done a lot of studies on clubfitting and his book on it is awesome. One of the things I remember vividly from that book is a comparison he did showing differences in distance with shaft lengths and then comparing that to slightly off-center hits. The short story is that there is a massive difference in distance from on-center to off-center hits and very little difference between on-center long-shaft and on-center shorter-shaft. Essentially, whatever shaft length lets you hit the center of the clubhead is the one that will get you the most difference. Sounds obvious, but most people don't hit the center of the face very often and could use a shorter shaft. I also think most people play shafts that aren't stiff enough, but that's a different topic.
     
  12. Phragle

    Phragle wild card bitches SoSH Member

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    I think I fucked up when I bought my wedges. I didn't really know enough so I bought wedges every 4 degrees off my PW. I'm going to recheck my distances but I think I should have gone with something more like 6 degree gaps. I have my PW at 44 and vokeys at 48, 52, & 56. A 50 fits perfectly in between my 44 PW and my 56 SW. I'm trying to find a cheap way to do it, then I think I can add a cheap 60-62 to help me hit some lobs. I think I got too cute and it's hard to pick the right wedge sometimes. My club builder thinks I should only carry two wedges but that seems too far in the other direction.
     
  13. jercra

    jercra Member SoSH Member

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    Your PW is 44?. That's a pretty strong PW. Mine is 47.

    You could get them bent but then you'll have to worry that you messed up the bounce on them. If you get them bent and like the yardages at the range you could probably have them ground to the bounce you need. If you don't want to do it to your Vokeys you could always get a set of Bombtech wedges for $97 and mess with those first. If you want to try for even cheaper I can probably dig up a whole set of old wedges I can send to you that you can mess with. I may even have a set of old Vokeys.

    I played for years with 50, 56 and 60. 62 is a recent development without bending. Today I go 47 (PW), 51, 55, 58. 4* changes except the 58. The 58 I like because it's what I use from the sand and I want to be able to hit a wider range of bunker shots.
     
  14. bostonbeerbelly

    bostonbeerbelly Member SoSH Member

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    In the same boat - my PW is a 43 degree, and I went 48/52/56.

    I have had them for a season and know my 90% max distances pretty well but I am still not sure if it was the right set up.

    (for reference the PW at 43 degree's is the AP1's)
     
  15. Phragle

    Phragle wild card bitches SoSH Member

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    Yeah I think it's 44. Seems like modern iron sets are pretty strong. I'd rather pick up a 50 for cheap somehow, but I have the option to bend the 48 back or the 52 up too. My local shop has a 60 degree vokey sm3 (I think) that's rusty but looks to be in good shape on the face.
     
  16. The Four Peters

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    Are the Bombtechs legit? I've heard them advertised on Foreplay and they seem too good to be true. Even so, grabbing them for $97 for a set is almost no lose even if they aren't great.

    I mean, they feel like the equivalent of Vice golf balls, which I love. Any insight?
     
  17. Comfortably Lomb

    Comfortably Lomb Koko the Monkey SoSH Member

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    Strong and getting stronger. Titleist's AP1 PW is down to 43, AP2 at 46. Seems like a lot of their player's irons are 47. Ping mostly 45 except their blades which are 46. Mizuno at 46. Calloway a lot of 44-45. It's easy to advertise irons being longer when you slap a PW on a 9-iron.
     
  18. Phragle

    Phragle wild card bitches SoSH Member

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    Yeah it's a weird thing the industry is doing and it's why I bought so many wedges in the first place. Length with irons isn't even very important
     
  19. dhappy42

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    Loft creep.

    My Ping Eye 2+ 9-iron is 44-degrees same as many modern PWs.

    Club manufacturers have been making their clubs hit longer for years by making the lofts stronger (and shafts longer.) It's a marketing gimmick.

    Worst thing about it is the compression of lofts between long irons -- because for most people the longest iron can be only so strong -- and the larger loft gaps between wedges -- the opposite of what you want in your scoring clubs where distance accuracy is more important. Hitting a 4-iron 5/10 yards short/long is less of a big deal than hitting your SW 5/10 yards short/long.

    Hence the gap wedge... and hybrids, to replace hard-to-hit (for most) modern 3-irons. That's 2-3 more clubs a golfer has to buy. Good for golf club makers, bad for golfers.
     
  20. Freddy Linn

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  21. 4 6 3 DP

    4 6 3 DP Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    So I am a complete club ho - tweak constantly with equipment, shafts, etc...Waste way too much money on it as well.

    I'd recommend getting something used over the bombtech stuff - not because I wouldn't want to support Sully, but because there's great barely used stuff online or on global golf or callaway preowned if you spend a little time to look.

    Wedges to me are really finicky - if you don't trust contact you won't go at the shot and if you don't go at it you'll chunk or blade everything.

    I'd be far quicker to hit a Grenade driver than their wedges.

    FYI I think the single smartest thing anyone who cares about equipment could do is not buy out of stores and make sure you use custom or fitted shafts. By doing nothing but screwing around on GolfWRX and then a little hunting online and in stores I have gone from a guy who was erratic with regular shafted woods and stiff tipped irons and gotten much straighter with different stiff shafted woods (though very smooth profiles) and soft tipped irons. Also have learned to tweak swing weights and lead tape et al - it makes a real difference.
     
  22. Phragle

    Phragle wild card bitches SoSH Member

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    Maybe I'll just wait for now and replace my 5 iron with a 60 degree wedge. There isn't a big difference between my 23 degree 5 iron and my 23 degree 4 hybrid. This looks good for a 20 right? ImageUploadedBySons of Sam Horn1492778185.669518.jpg
     
  23. Koufax

    Koufax Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Doesn't this really have the effect of shortening your shaft? A long time ago I would hit a 3 iron in the fairway. Now that it's what 2-iron used to be, it's unhittable. So I pull out the 5 iron, which is what a 3 used to be, but it has a shorter shaft. That's probably good from the point of consistency, no?
     
  24. southshoresoxfan

    southshoresoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    I couldnt imagine pulling a 3iron out on the course. My 3 and 4 hybrids are so incredible that my 3 and 4iron have been relegated to alignment shafts
     
  25. southshoresoxfan

    southshoresoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    Opening round 85 at Wentworth this am from the blues. 46 on the front 39 on the back including 2 birdies. No 3 putts. Cpl OB drives. Overall very happy
     

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