2017 Dolphins: On the Right Track

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no movement on Cook at guard. he played for fish o-line coach in past. Perhaps they are looking for a guy who can play guard and tackle?

team has little depth at LB and OL...and DL really
 

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There's some talk that Alex Boone could be an option for Miami after Week 1.

As for the DL depth,I actually feel pretty comfortable about it, especially if the rookie DT continue the strong play demonstrated throughout the preseason. Fede is also a very strong 4th/5th DE option.

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Boone, not Cook. Thanks. lol. that makes sense re: after week 1

My concern is that Phillips and Harris are not going to contribute much. Neither has played well in the preseason.

If Irma continues in a straight line, it would be hitting Miami on Sunday. I'm guessing if the path looks ominous, they will play on Saturday
 

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Surprised to see this team as a home dog in week 1 versus Tampa, not a slouch team either, but kind of in the same position as Miami, good, theoretically getting better.
 

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Speaking of "on the right track" Dolphins home opener could be in jeopardy with now-Cat 5 Irma heading toward Miami and possible land fall early Sunday morning in So. Florida. No link, just speculation.

EDIT: dammit, read the thread, 2 posts up.
 

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Boone, not Cook. Thanks. lol. that makes sense re: after week 1

My concern is that Phillips and Harris are not going to contribute much. Neither has played well in the preseason.

If Irma continues in a straight line, it would be hitting Miami on Sunday. I'm guessing if the path looks ominous, they will play on Saturday
Interestingly on the Irma front they mentioned this morning on the Sirius sports update that they were looking at either Thursday or Friday nights rather than Saturday if they decide to move it so in that case the decision would need to come down sooner rather than later.
 

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Surprised to see this team as a home dog in week 1 versus Tampa, not a slouch team either, but kind of in the same position as Miami, good, theoretically getting better.
With the issues the secondary had in the Pre-Season, the Tampa offense scares me, specifically Evans.
I do wonder which way the sharps are leaning though, because I can see the public being all over the Bucs necessitating that line. They've been mentioned as the sleeper contender on most shows I've watched...Plus being on Hard Knocks can be a boost if it makes you look good.
 

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i don't care which day they reschedule as long as it isn't Week 11.
Tampa and Miami have the same bye week...on Mike&Mike they were discussing Irma and they seemed to think that was a possibility.
(Edit* Speaking purely from a Football perspective. I know in the big scheme of things a TB/Mia game is inconsequential and hopefully the area will be okay)
 
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Onl way they could play play Friday would be during the day. Tropical storm force winds expected in Miami by nightfall. Can't risk having game played in that and also stranding folks given planes wouldn't be flying out until Saturday. I'm guessing they will play Thursday or week 11
 

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Onl way they could play play Friday would be during the day. Tropical storm force winds expected in Miami by nightfall. Can't risk having game played in that and also stranding folks given planes wouldn't be flying out until Saturday. I'm guessing they will play Thursday or week 11
If they have a Thursday game, Goodell could go to that instead of The Blade. Support for the community as the storm approaches yadda yadda yadda...
 

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They've announced that the game will not be played on Sunday in Miami, so I guess that leaves 3 options:

1) Play earlier in the week.
2) Play on Sunday in a neutral site.
3) Play in Week 11.

My guess is NFL won't do option 1, so it comes down to 2 or 3. I think the players would prefer option 2 rather than having to play 16 straight weeks.
 

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Earlier this week would be better for the players I think. This being the NFL I have to think it's going to end up being the bye week. Figure if they played it Thurs night or Friday afternoon the crowd won't be that big because people will be evacuating.
 

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Game officially postponed to Week 11. Miami is fucked. I understand this is a matter of safety, but Miami was already bending over to travel to England and play the Saints with no bye after. Now they have to do that and have no bye week whatsoever this year. Absolutely brutal. How could they have not worked this out and moved the game to Jacksonville or Atlanta?
 

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This is truly a tough, unfortunate situation for all involved. Miami certainly hasn't been granted any gifts thus far this year. I'd love to see the London game canceled at this point, with the game being played at Hard Rock instead, but we know that's not happening.

On at least one positive note, the trip to LA to face the Chargers next Sunday should be easier.
 

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If reports are to be believed that the teams wanted to play this week at a neutral site, this is (another) kind of disgusting move by the NFL. NFLPA should have a field day with this one.
 

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You have to wonder whether the players preferred this option. As much as it sucks for the team competitively, I imagine the specter of trying to prepare for and play a game is pretty awful when starting down what's potentially coming to their homes and families.
 

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You have to wonder whether the players preferred this option. As much as it sucks for the team competitively, I imagine the specter of trying to prepare for and play a game is pretty awful when starting down what's potentially coming to their homes and families.
From what I read yesterday, seemed a majority of players from both teams absolutely did NOT want the game to get postponed to Week 11. Moving the game to a neutral site, playing the game earlier or later in the week were all options on the table.

Due to the governor of Florida declaring a state of emergency early in the week, playing the game Thursday in Miami became unfeasible due to a lack of resources from police/first responders necessary for the game.

There are literally more than a dozen empty NFL stadiums this weekend. Even if the game has to be shifted to Monday to piece everything together, something should have been worked out. This was handled about as poorly as possible by the NFL. They've shown once again, they don't give a shit about the players or player safety. Having the audacity to send these players to England after this debacle to promote the game is an absolute joke. It's all about the brand of the NFL. Protect the shield. Make dollars. Repeat.
 

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From what I read yesterday, seemed a majority of players from both teams absolutely did NOT want the game to get postponed to Week 11. Moving the game to a neutral site, playing the game earlier or later in the week were all options on the table.

Due to the governor of Florida declaring a state of emergency early in the week, playing the game Thursday in Miami became unfeasible due to a lack of resources from police/first responders necessary for the game.

There are literally more than a dozen empty NFL stadiums this weekend. Even if the game has to be shifted to Monday to piece everything together, something should have been worked out. This was handled about as poorly as possible by the NFL. They've shown once again, they don't give a shit about the players or player safety. Having the audacity to send these players to England after this debacle to promote the game is an absolute joke. It's all about the brand of the NFL. Protect the shield. Make dollars. Repeat.
I'm sure money is the #1 reason for all this, and that's shitty.

But let's also just maybe acknowledge that having either of these team, representing these cities, playing a football game during what could be a historic natural disaster hitting their cities, might not be the best idea? There's the possibility of historic damage and casualty numbers here.

If they could remove the London game from the schedule and give it back to Miami as a home game, maybe that's at least a compromise step.
 

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Plus side, the biggest Daily Fantasy Contests are this week, and now I don't have to be conflicted about Evans.
Rarely, if ever, do I play Dolphins opponents, but it felt like I may be putting myself at a disadvantage...
Okay, that's all I got.

Hopefully the real plus will be a best case scenario with Irma.
Football wise, best case may be this creates some sort of unity and chip on their shoulder that propels them going forward. Likely wish-casting, but we've seen it happen before.
 

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I'm sure money is the #1 reason for all this, and that's shitty.

But let's also just maybe acknowledge that having either of these team, representing these cities, playing a football game during what could be a historic natural disaster hitting their cities, might not be the best idea? There's the possibility of historic damage and casualty numbers here.

If they could remove the London game from the schedule and give it back to Miami as a home game, maybe that's at least a compromise step.
I certainly agree there's a human element to this.

If the NFL was serious about the human element of this, they would cancel the London game and change their Thursday night game later in the year to a regular Sunday game. Find some kind of compromise. If I hear nothing later in the week about them trying to accommodate Miami or Tampa in terms of remaining schedule, then it's pretty clear what is driving the decision making.
 

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Link to Armando Salguero's article on Irma and the London game.

In it he states that officials from both teams argued against moving the game to Week 11.
 

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The London game thing is not happening.

Too much sponsorship money, too many contracts with London vendors/partners, etc.
 

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The London game thing is not happening.

Too much sponsorship money, too many contracts with London vendors/partners, etc.
Of course not. Also, Miami is supposed to play at Wembly and there's something like 90K tickets already sold. The NFL could do it if they wanted to. No one in the US would question the decision. They won't do it. They care more about growing the brand and cashing in than about the individual players or teams.
 

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On the radio this morning, they were talking about this and they said came down to the fact that only Pittsburgh and Philly are a.) open at that time and B.) far enough north to not be in possibly affected areas. I don't know if i buy that. I mean, i haven't checked the Revolution schedule but wouldn't Gillette be open? What about KC?

Anyhow, the bigger reason, (which I buy) is that getting BACK to Miami and Tampa afterwards would be the real issue and they'd have ~200 guys who were all away from their families who had likely evacuated
 

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On the radio this morning, they were talking about this and they said came down to the fact that only Pittsburgh and Philly are a.) open at that time and B.) far enough north to not be in possibly affected areas. I don't know if i buy that. I mean, i haven't checked the Revolution schedule but wouldn't Gillette be open? What about KC?

Anyhow, the bigger reason, (which I buy) is that getting BACK to Miami and Tampa afterwards would be the real issue and they'd have ~200 guys who were all away from their families who had likely evacuated
Miami is actually going to LA Week 2 so there were rumblings they might play somewhere like Arizona (also open) and stay out on the west coast until after the Chargers game. Atlanta seemed to make a lot of sense as well. Close enough to FL, vacant, and should be out of range of the storm Sunday.
 

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The current forecast moved a bit east and now has the center basically going right over Miami. It's a good thing the Fish are away the next two weeks.

Even might have to worry about Jacksonville's home game in 11 days.
 
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I don't understand why the phins-bucs game couldn't be moved ANYWHERE ELSE to be played Friday or Saturday or Sunday. What have "the geniuses in the league office" trotted out as reasons those options weren't feasible?

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I don't understand why the phins-bucs game couldn't be moved ANYWHERE ELSE to be played Friday or Saturday or sunday. What have "the geniuses in the league office" trotted out as reasons those options weren't feasible?
It could be ... if you volunteered to be responsible for moving all of their family members out of the hurricane zone
 

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I don't understand why the phins-bucs game couldn't be moved ANYWHERE ELSE to be played Friday or Saturday or Sunday. What have "the geniuses in the league office" trotted out as reasons those options weren't feasible?

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Guessing the preference was to not take another home game away from the fans with one already lost to London. Would be a shame to only get a chance to see Jay Cutler 6 times.
 

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It could be ... if you volunteered to be responsible for moving all of their family members out of the hurricane zone
Funny thing is if Miami and Tampa didn't conveniently share a bye week, there's a 1000% chance they figure out a way to move the game and play this weekend. The NFL doesn't care about players or their families. This was just the path of least resistance.
 

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I'm not sure why they just didn't play it tomorrow, in Miami, or even this afternoon. Safety outweighs KICKOFF at Foxboro.
FL governor declared a state of emergency on Tuesday which means all first responders are on mandatory 12 hour shifts to aid in preparation and evacuation. Once that happened, Miami didn't really have the resources to play the game in Miami. I believe playing Thursday was everyone's first choice.
 

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Haha, what a fun, satisfying night!

I love it because being a Miami fan in the MA area the past 2 seasons hasn't been as entertaining as in years prior, due to NE's strong starts. Previous to that, the Pats would often start the year off slow -- either with a loss or two or a slew of sluggish, unimpressive wins -- and the fans in the area would overact. It makes for some decent radio and local fan talk, for sure. I've missed it!

Edleman is a huge loss -- no question about it. But the Pats pretty much had tonight's game through the 1st 3 quarters. Though the score didn't indicate it after the 1st half (17-14), I thought the Patriots dominated the play. Amendola's injury will probably be understated this week, but I thought he was best equipped to serve the Julian role, and he was having a pretty solid game before leaving.

Not McDaniels' best play-calling tonight, IMO. I thought some questionable calls may have left ended a couple of drives prematurely and left some points on the field. Also, New England's pass rush might be a bit of a concern this year, but the Patriots are winning 12-13 games, at the least, when all is said and done. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the "sky is falling" crowd.

After all, it's not like I have a Dolphins' game to look forward to this weekend.
 
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I thought the game was a lost cause when Andy Reid was running all of his WRs out of jumbo sets when Hunt was clearly his most effective option.

As a Dolphins fan and Kareem Hunt fantasy owner, I'm glad he pulled his head out of his ass.

To me, it looked like once Dola went out, TB didn't have anyone he trusted 100% besides Gronk, who was being blanketed by Berry all game. He gave Burkhead a few shots, once in the red zone and once in a wheel route downfield I recall. Cooks seemed good, but it felt like those two still aren't totally in sync yet.

Seems the Chiefs have laid the blueprint. Clog the middle of the field. Drop 8 into coverage in the red zone.
 

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the blueprint is attack the patriot LBers in space. down the field or on the edge. Miami doesn't exactly have the guys to do that. - maybe Grant?

KC was doubling Gronk or using Berry on him. I doubt Jones can handle him. NE had plenty of chances to score, but didn't

its one game, first game. I joked above but in the grand scheme of things this game means little.
 

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the blueprint is attack the patriot LBers in space. down the field or on the edge. Miami doesn't exactly have the guys to do that. - maybe Grant?

KC was doubling Gronk or using Berry on him. I doubt Jones can handle him. NE had plenty of chances to score, but didn't

its one game, first game. I joked above but in the grand scheme of things this game means little.
Agreed. Jones hasn't typically matched up in single coverage with Gronk, and even if he did, man coverage isn't his best attribute. Few people can do what Eric Berry did last night, which is basically erasing one of the most dominant players in the game from the field.
 

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Between his offseason work with players holding business training camps, his private financing of Miami's stadium renovations, his open stance regarding players kneeling for the anthem, and now this, is Stephen Ross slowly becoming one of the better owners in the NFL?


Ross moving all players, coaches and families to LA for the week to avoid the Hurricane and begin prepping for LA.

He started on shaky ground, trying to throw his money around and bringing celebrity to the Dolphins, but I think the light came on for him a few years ago. Winning trumps everything else. I think he gets it and is dedicated to that, as well as being a decent person.
 

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As a Dolphins fan and Kareem Hunt fantasy owner, I'm glad he pulled his head out of his ass.
Amen brother. Almost turned the game off 5 minutes in after NE marched down the field on possession, and immediately recovered Hunt's fumble. His turnaround in that game was impressive for a rookie, to say the least.

As for this little blip on NE's schedule, I doubt any of us haters are under any illusion. Belichick is probably glad he has this game in his pocket to fuel the drive to 15 - 1. Anyway, I'm glad we're not playing them next week.
 

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I agree. I think Ross has figured things out quickly and is currently operating as one of the best owners in the league. He seems in tune with the fan base, and he let's the guys he hired to do football things handle the football things. As a fan, what more can you ask for?

I'm definitely ready to (finally) watch a Dolphins' football game this Saturday!
 

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Even with the week off, I'm feeling better about this Dolphins team. Mostly because the majority of football I've seen in the past week plus has been utter trash.
The bars been set pretty low. It's a lot easier to envision scenarios where this team is highly competitive.
 

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Even with the week off, I'm feeling better about this Dolphins team. Mostly because the majority of football I've seen in the past week plus has been utter trash.
The bars been set pretty low. It's a lot easier to envision scenarios where this team is highly competitive.
This is such a true statement. As a Pats fan I feel way less bad about being 0-1 after watching all this garbage
 

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Even with the week off, I'm feeling better about this Dolphins team. Mostly because the majority of football I've seen in the past week plus has been utter trash.
The bars been set pretty low. It's a lot easier to envision scenarios where this team is highly competitive.
This is a valid statement. There's been some bad, bad football played over the last week. Some teams that were expected to be competitive (Houston and Cincy immediately come to mind) are trash.

This week, however, I don't feel great about. LA moved the ball well against Denver's D. Bosa and Ingram worry me. I don't know if Tunsil and James, especially James, will be able to handle their responsibilities on third downs. Denver moved the ball well against their defense, so I think that Miami's offense will be able to be somewhat effective, I'm mainly concerned with Miami being able to do something to slow Melvin Gordon down.

Keep in mind, Miami forced 3 INTs when they played last year, and Rivers still had the ball in his hand at the end of the 4th quarter in a tie game before Alonso came up with the massive pick 6, which was Rivers' 4th INT that game.
 
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LA moved the ball well against Denver's D. Bosa and Ingram worry me.
But, did they? The game was 24-7 (Denver) at the end of the 3rd and until the 2 Broncos' turnovers in the final quarter. The Chargers averaged less than 3 yards per carry, and Rivers was hit a ton while throwing 1 interception. The pressure directly up the middle on passing downs seemed considerable.

Bosa and Ingram worry me.
Certainly vs. the pass, but less so vs. the run, which is why I'm expecting a heavy dose of Ajayi in this one. Denver had some good success on the ground last Monday night, and I'm expecting similar results for Miami. If this turns into a Cutler, pass-happy game, things probably aren't going well for the Dolphins.

- An extra week of rest for players, Pouncey included.
- Have been in LA for over a week prior to the game.
- More prep time for staff; Game 1 SD film.

I like Miami's chances in this one.
 

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It'll be interesting to watch the chess match unfold. I remember in particular last year's game because Gase had the patience of a god damned monk and kept running the ball and running the ball and running the ball with little success and finally Tannehill popped the game open with maybe the best play of his career, hitting Stills on the monster bomb off the playaction at the end of the first half.

It was masterful play calling and execution. Gase literally set that play up for an entire half.

I think you're correct. Miami will likely lean on Ajayi to control down and distance and avoid third and longs. A lot of buzz about Miami looking to run far more up-tempo, no huddle. They tried that last year and basically hung their defense out to dry the first few games, not keeping possession nearly long enough. It seems Cutler is very comfortable operating in the no huddle. Certainly another way to try and neutralize those pass rusher is keeping them on the field and forcing them to chase Ajayi around.
 

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Latest from the Chargers is that Jason Verrett did not participate the last two practices and looks doubtful for the game Sunday. Would certainly be a boost for Miami if he is unable to go.