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2017 Awards

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by bosox79, Sep 24, 2017.

  1. Plympton91

    Plympton91 bubble burster SoSH Member

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    As opposed to who?

    Well, I guess that Devers guy had some moments (lol).
     
  2. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    As opposed to Altuve.
     
  3. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    And unanimous for Aaron Judge, ROY. Good kid, great season.
     
  4. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    (Edit) Never mind, this was wrong.
     
  5. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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  6. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Yeah, sorry, I don't know what I was reading. Congrats to my avatar subject!
     
  7. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Well deserved, pretty amazing season for this kid.
     
  8. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Bellinger unanimous as well, according to CBS Sports. Neither one is really a surprise, I don't think.
     
  9. simplicio

    simplicio Well-Known Member Gold Supporter

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    Lovullo and Molitor win manager of the year.
     
  10. brandonchristensen

    brandonchristensen mad photochops SoSH Member

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  11. Reggie's Racquet

    Reggie's Racquet Member SoSH Member

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    Fabulous. We whiff on Madden, Roberts and Lovullo just so we could finally fire Farrell.
     
  12. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    Seriously? Who cares? Good for Torey.
     
  13. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Who cares? Many of us thought they should have kept Lovullo after he subbed in for Farrell when he was sick.
     
  14. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Anyone still pining for Lovullo didn't watch the D'backs in the playoffs. Or if they did, would be happy with someone who manages just like Farrell but has a better personality.
     
    #64 Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:36 AM
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  15. simplicio

    simplicio Well-Known Member Gold Supporter

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    Would you rather have one of them than Cora?
     
  16. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Kluber wins the Cy

    28 first-place votes to 2 for Sale
     
    #66 E5 Yaz, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:29 PM
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  17. brandonchristensen

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    Fucking Sale had it in the bag...

    (EDIT)To clarify - then August hit.
     
    #67 brandonchristensen, Nov 15, 2017 at 7:59 PM
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  18. BoSox Rule

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    Scherzer probably punched his ticket to Cooperstown tonight as a 3-time Cy Young Award winner.
     
  19. Delonte James Jr.

    Delonte James Jr. Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    History supports that too, as every other 3+ time winner aside from Clemens is either active or in Cooperstown: Randy Johnson (x5), Carlton (x4), Maddux (x4), Koufax, Pedro, Jim Palmer, Seaver, Kershaw (active, but seems like all but assured at time of typing).
     
  20. santadevil

    santadevil Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Stanton with the NL MVP. Just beating out Votto
     
  21. E5 Yaz

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    Altuve wins the AL MVP ... 27 of 30 first-place votes
     
  22. Al Zarilla

    Al Zarilla Member SoSH Member

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    No surprise to me:

    From ESPN: “In a bit of a surprise, Jose Altuve was the landslide winner over Aaron Judge in the AL MVP voting, collecting 27 of 30 first-place votes....”
     
  23. scottyno

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    Altuve was -1000 final betting odds, ESPN is going to be equally shocked when Lonzo doesn't win rookie of the year.
     
  24. E5 Yaz

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    You thought he'd win in a landslide?
     
  25. cheekydave

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    Unabashedly admitting that not only did the right person win, but I would have been miserable living here in NY if I had to deal with Lurch winning. Twitter is gold right now, I should be shocked, but I am not, how the Yankees fans were absolutely convinced Judge would and should win. You cannot disappear for almost 2 months in a season against a consistent player like Altuve and expect to beat him.
     
  26. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I thought it would be a comfortable win.
     
  27. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    In comfy shoes?
     
  28. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    and a big ol' La-Z-Boy lounge
     
  29. E5 Yaz

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    I always wanted to own a bar called the La-Z-Boy Lounge, and have lounge chairs instead of table seating ... but I figured I'd get sued
     
  30. edoug

    edoug Member SoSH Member

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    For a sports bar, how about Chaise Stadium?
     
  31. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    Well, a regular sized one would look big with Altuve in it.

    So glad he won.
     
  32. Kun Aguero

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    Sale left handed pitcher in a park known as murder to a lefty.
    Klubers' Indians were 2nd in the Majors in OPS (.788). Sales' Red Sox were 22nd (.736). It's much easier to pitch when given a lead.
    Their toughest division opponent: Kluber faced Twins ONCE. Sale faced Yankees five times, and Sale pitched in a much tougher division. Sale faced the Twins & Kluber faced the Yankees twice each
    Kluber faced Tigers & White Sox, the two worst teams in the league 10 times. One THIRD of his starts.
    Sale faced them ONCE each.
    Recent effect bullshit. Which is this: If I give people a list of 10 items, then ask them to say them back to me, most of the items at the end of the list are going to be mentioned FAR more often than the ones at the beginning. They are fresher in the mind. Kluber WAS better down the stretch. Maybe because the Indians had long had the division wrapped up, and he also spent a month on the DL so he was MUCH fresher down the stretch. If the situation was reversed, and Sale was better late and struggled early, or if Kluber missed August instead of May, Sale would have been the runaway winner.

    Sale pitched more high pressure games. Sox adjusted rotation to match Sale in big matchups late in the season. Yes he struggled. But he was also facing elite line-ups in high leverage situations.. Sox didn't wrap up division til second to last day of the season, Cleveland had it wrapped up long before. That also makes a difference.

    I'm not saying Sale should have won. I'm saying it should have been MUCH closer, and the process is flawed at best. It shouldn't be determined by votes. No award should be. There should be a points process using the stats available and by the situations (IE: strength of opponent, pitching with a lead, opponents still fighting for playoffs, etc.) the player faces to determine a winner.
     

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