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2017-2018 Manchester City: A thread for Champions

Discussion in 'Breakfast with Gazza (with Sachmoneious Bullcrap)' started by teddykgb, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    I never got around to making a Man City thread this year and then City went on an epic run so I dared not jinx it because obviously my posts on a Red Sox message board affects the outcomes of the team.

    Today is a good day because City have clinched the league via United's loss to WBA. It was unexpected to win in this way but the league has seemed wrapped up for a while.

    To be honest, it was a welcome boost because the last week at Man City has been a disaster. Knocked out of the CL by Liverpool and losing the Derby to United really took the shine off of a season for the ages. In time, I'm sure I'll look back more fondly on this season but I can't help but feel that I'll always feel that this season was a missed opportunity. Liverpool was, in my opinion, the worst draw City could have had in the CL because Liverpool for whatever reason has absolutely no fear against City. They had the benefit of some decisions but they went toe to toe with City and earned their victory. Solving Liverpool stands out as Pep's biggest challenge going into the next season.

    All that remains now is to play out the season. There are points and goals records at stake with the team able to write itself into the PL record books. Personally, I won't be surprised if the standard of play drops and hope that Pep can take the time to get Foden and Diaz more regular match time against some teams fighting the drop. We were incredibly unfortunate to lose Mendy nearly immediately but it would be nice if his health permits him to be able to play a few matches down the stretch just to get used to the system. City have played most of the season with an arm tied behind their back with Delph being the best LB (and he was reliable, especially defensively) but I think there's another level available if Mendy is there to overlap Sane.

    From a player perspective, the last week aside, this season was the story of the maturation of Sane and Sterling. Sterling's 1st half was unreal, culminated by a fantastic strike against Southampton in injury time to rescue the points. He's struggled again in the last few weeks. I don't think he'll ever be much of a finisher but over time i've come to appreciate his movement to create the chances he sometimes squanders. Sane started more slowly but seems to have a level of class that few players in the world has. He's a bit petulant and his right foot isn't yet good enough. But the whole world can know he's going to run outside the fullback and he is still silky and tricky enough to beat the man. KDB was tremendous but has clearly tired in the last few weeks. David Silva was also tremendous and dealt with the super premature birth of his son which had him flying back to Spain and missing training most of the winter. An underrated aspect of this team is that it dealt with a large amount of adversity regarding player availability all season.
     
  2. 67YAZ

    67YAZ Member SoSH Member

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    I was looking for a current season City topic, so I posted this in the game thread:

    Congrats to City and its fans. An incredible, stylish, and entertaining campaign with a frighteningly young core. This squad is really set to be a powerhouse for the foreseeable future. Kompany and Silva are getting older - and Otamendi probably is a weak link - but otherwise, maybe only Bayern compares in terms of young talent? Fantastic stuff
     
  3. bosox4283

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    How much credit does Guardiola deserves for bringing in and developing young talent?
     
  4. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    I would say he deserves a lot of credit. The team he inherited was among the oldest in the league. The easier thing to do is to bring in established superstars but he has generally preferred younger players like Sterling and Sane. It is clear that he's pushing the young players to get better and playing them in huge matches with huge expectations. City have yet to bring a player through the EDS to regular first team football but Foden and Diaz at least seem to be knocking on the door. City are not paupers and have spent a lot of money on these young players but Guardiola has sent out a young team every week and relied upon these younger players to deliver results while weathering their less consistent performances.

    Stones made huge leaps in his play until he got injured ( and is apparently injured again) Fernandinho and David Silva aside, every player in the squad is extremely young and seem poised to improve or maintain their level. Without a doubt the summer will import additional young players to bolster the squad as well.
     
  5. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I thought Pep blooded in Zinchenko nicely as well since buying him for a pittance (£1.7m)
     
  6. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    He sort of got lucky with Zinchenko. They were trying to loan him but couldn't find a deal so he stayed. When Delph and Mendy both got injured he tried him at LB and to his credit the kid didn't fail but he's not a fullback/wingback and probably will end up moving on. He's very good with the ball at his feet and I think he'll be a good player but I don't think he's going to make it as a CM in City's setup because there's just too much competition
     
  7. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Congrats to @teddykgb and @LTF

    City was so good this year that they threaten to steal my children (who have worn blue and white stripes since they were babies). Even my 3 year old runs into the room when footy is on and starts yelling "where's Keven DeBruyne?!" Sometimes she can pick him out too.

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  8. Zomp

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    If there is another spending spree, what positions do you see the money going towards?
     
  9. wonderland

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    I would think they will be buying a DM type this summer.
     
  10. teddykgb

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    An attacker who can play across the front 3. City chased Mahrez in the winter and I suppose they'll go back to him or other Wingers who can rotate with Sterling and Sane who can also cover striker in a pinch. I'd love for them to target a bigger striker but there are so few big players who can participate in build up play that Lewandowski aside I can't even fathom who that would be

    The second position they'll focus on is trying to find a replacement for Fernandinho who is 33. They'll look at probably every midfielder who might conceivably play pivot. Supposedly were after Fred but that seemed to die as your team jumped into the fray. I suspect they'll take temp on Weigl who may be a buy low candidate compared to a few years ago or Milinkovic-Savic/Fabinho/etc. Problem is that I don't think any ofthose players are perfect for the role.

    I wouldn't be entirely shocked if Gundogan moved on. He's played a big part but he's clearly 3rd best 6/8 and he doesn't seem to be able to play the pivot too effectively. With Foden knocking on the door and City always linked with CMs I think he's going to be squeezed out sooner or later.

    edit: Realistically, City will need to have a 3rd choice striker either through an adaptable winger or an outright purchase. Both pure strikers (Jesus and Aguero) have proven fairly injury prone and City have been lucky that they've managed to time their injuries well enough to seldom be without a true striker. I don't expect the team to be as light at striker, LB, and CDM next season.
     
  11. wonderland

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    I know this is a City thread but I’ve been trying to figure out the young talent on Munich. That’s an older team.
     
  12. Zomp

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    Coman, , Sule, Tolisso, Kimmich and the soon to be arriving Goretzka are all under 24 years old.
     
  13. BCsMightyJoeYoung

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    Also echoing the congratulations to @teddykgb and @LTF

    City are an amazing team. Watching the wave after wave of world class attackers in that 2nd leg vs. Liverpool was absolutely terrifying.

    It’s not just that they have the best 11 in the EPL. They have the best 14/15 as well.
     
  14. 67YAZ

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    And Sanches, who is still only 20, if you think he can fulfill his potential.

    But really, Bayern has a kind of de facto first refusal on every German player.
     
  15. Zososoxfan

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    Congrats to the Citizens who were unbeatable from August until April and did so in style. Question for the board-will the club/Pep take into account player health and WC aspirations into lineups? The entire squad pretty much is on competitive international teams. Will that affect selection at all?
     
  16. teddykgb

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    Well Aguero had knee surgery today after the tackle on him in the derby so he’s assuredly out. Pep has favored very strong teams in all competitions so I expect he’ll mostly play a regular lineup and go for records. I would prefer that he gives Silva and KDB a month off now but I doubt it will happen. Silva may get to stay away more with nothing to play for so that may be the biggest change. I imagine that players who are on the fringe for Russia will want to play to improve their chances
     
  17. wonderland

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    Did you think KDB’s play dropped as the year went on? I thought he was incredible at the start of the year but as the year wore on, he dropped a level or two.

    Now I don’t know if that was just coming back to earth some or the result of playing too many minutes. The only thing I do know for sure is he played a lot.
     
  18. NickEsasky

    NickEsasky Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em SoSH Member

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    I'm not as knowledgeable as most folks here, but to me KDB was just exhausted down the stretch.
     
  19. coremiller

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    Pep ran KDB into the ground. KDB has started 32/33 league games and 8/10 CL games. He missed a couple of FA and league cup ties but overall that's not enough rotation, esp. for a midfielder asked to cover a large amount of ground.
     
  20. Dummy Hoy

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    Agree with the consensus here- DeBruyne just looked tired. The piece missing from his game over the last few months is his ability to push the ball upfield with pace or make those sharp 20yard runs approaching the box.

    Pep better fucking let the boy rest at this point...he gave everything this season and now needs to be a centerpiece for Belgium before coming back next season.
     

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