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2017-18 College Hoops

Discussion in 'College Sports' started by RedOctober3829, May 31, 2017.

  1. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    The brackets have been announced for the 16-team PK80 Invitational in Portland, OR on Thanksgiving weekend. This is a tournament full of some of the biggest Nike schools plus Portland area schools to honor Phil Knight's 80th birthday. It's 2 8 team brackets and the games will be played in both the Moda Center and the Veterans Memorial Coliseum. All first round games are on Thanksgiving Day, semifinals the following day, and championship games on Sunday. Each team will play 3 games similar to the Maui Invitational.

    Bracket 1
    UNC vs. Portland
    Arkansas vs. Oklahoma
    Georgetown vs. Michigan State
    UConn vs. Oregon

    Bracket 2
    Duke vs. Portland State
    Butler vs. Texas
    Florida vs. Stanford
    Gonzaga vs. Ohio State
     
  2. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Ohio State shockingly fired Thad Matta today. Some are saying because he was losing recruiting battles. This came out of nowhere.
     
  3. Detts

    Detts Member SoSH Member

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    Tom Crean is available...
     
  4. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Greg McDermott is meeting with OSU tonight per Goodman.
     
  5. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    Remaining at Creighton
     
  6. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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  7. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Rollie Massimino passed away today at age 82. Him and former Michigan State head coach Jud Heathcote pass away in the matter of a few days apart. Two legendary coaches.
     
    #7 RedOctober3829, Aug 30, 2017
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  8. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I don't know anything about NCAA hoops, but Alabama playing 3 on 5 against Minnesota for 10 minutes yesterday must have been entertaining.
     
  9. amfox1

    amfox1 Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    LiAngelo Ball, brother of Lonzo, is withdrawing from UCLA, according to statements made by his father.

    Final UCLA stats: 0 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 0 rebounds, 0 blocks and 1 steal
     
  10. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    Florida lost at home to Loyola Chicago
     
  11. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Kansas down 10 to Washington with 3 minutes left, in Kansas City.

    EDIT--Washington wins.
     
  12. Bigpupp

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    Good week for Las Cruces, NM. NMSU will be playing in their first bowl game since 1960, and their men's basketball team just knocked off a top 10 opponent (#6 Miami) for the first time since 1990.
     
  13. Omar's Wacky Neighbor

    Omar's Wacky Neighbor Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    We've adopted South Carolina. My son's former classmate/teammate is starting for the Gamecocks as a frosh.
     
  14. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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  15. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    Oklahoma vs TCU has been a tremendous watch. Trae Young has the same haircut as my grandmother but plays like Steph.
     
  16. ifmanis5

    ifmanis5 Member SoSH Member

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    The Trae Young highlight reel from today is insane. Reminds me of Devin Booker and Steph.



    How will he share the ball with Kyrie next year?
     
  17. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    I don’t have the exact stats off the top of my head, but Oklahoma blew 5,000 easy finishes from Young in the second half.
     
  18. ifmanis5

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    Not sure if he can rebound like that in the NBA the way Russ does but all his other skills seem like they would translate. He's basically what we all wanted Fultz to be but even better.
     
  19. uk_sox_fan

    uk_sox_fan Member SoSH Member

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    Am I just lacking perspective or is this looking like an all-time great draft class? I mean Doncic, Bagley, Ayton, Porter, Young, Bamba, Jared Jackson for the Top 7? Really? To complete the lottery you have Sexton, Miles and Mikah Bridges, Knox and Carter before you have some debate for 13 & 14 (Robert Williams, Troy Brown and Diallo probably in the running for those last 2 spots)

    Most years you'd have maybe 6 or 7 guys with the level of talent of this year's top 12.
     
  20. DukeSox

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    This years NCAA is going to be wild - heard it here first
     
  21. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    No elite teams will make for an exciting tournament for sure. 10-15 teams could win it all.
     
  22. uk_sox_fan

    uk_sox_fan Member SoSH Member

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    KenPom Standings update and change from last post:

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    Conf Team XWins  AdjEM NatRk // changes since 4 Jan //
     1. UVa   14.76  29.41   3  +0.71  +1.55  unch
     2. Duke  13.06  27.27   4  -0.36  +0.55   +1
     3. UNC   11.76  23.85   9  +0.65  +1.82   +3
     4. Clem  11.73  21.33  15  -0.67  +1.29   +3
     5. ND    10.41  19.52  22  -1.04  -0.46   -3
     6. Louis 10.15  16.38  36  +0.89  +0.77   +3
     7. Miami  9.61  17.87  31  -0.65  -1.76   -3
     8. FSU    8.78  17.60  32  -1.95  -1.35   -6
     9. Syr    7.80  14.01  46  -0.95  +0.25   +2
    10. BC     7.68   9.75  72  +0.87  +0.06  unch
    11. NC St  7.59  10.43  67  +2.45  +3.03  +23
    12. VTech  7.18  13.93  48  +0.27  +0.39   +3
    13. GTech  6.91   6.60 102  +1.75  +2.42  +19
    14. Wake   5.83   8.83  67  -2.62  -1.54  -16
    15. Pitt   1.75  -3.75 203  -1.15  -2.81  -23
    General movement up in the national rankings, little movement in the table though UNC climbs to 3rd (a smidge past Clemson ahead of tonight's game) and Pitt hits new lows.
     
  23. uk_sox_fan

    uk_sox_fan Member SoSH Member

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    UVa looks tough but has had only one ACC road game so far (a win over the Hokies) and still needs to play @Duke, @Louis, @Mia, @FSU and @Syr.
     
  24. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Zion Williamson chooses Duke. So they’ve got the 1, 2, and 3 players of next years class. Gonna be crazy.
     
  25. jon abbey

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    If Sportscenter is correct, Trae Young hit six threes from 32 feet or farther tonight. That is absolutely insane.
     
  26. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Halfway through the second half, Trae Young has 0 assists in his game against WVU. 20 points, but no assists.

    EDIT--finishes with 32/1
     
  27. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Shaka Smart has to go. He has no ability to coach offense and Texas hasn’t improved under him. Barnes did more.

    Missing the tournament with a top 3 lottery pick is special.

    9-22 in Big XII play with two top 5 recruiting classes anchored by 1-and-done NBA centers. Wooooooooo!
     
  28. dirtynine

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    Bucknell with the amazing comeback win!

    I expected the Bison to be loaded this year, as in “tourney a given, first round upset in frame, sweet 16 if the stars align” loaded. They had everyone back from a team that pushed WV in the tourney last year. They scheduled tough out of conference and looked to be prepping a resume for a good NCAA seed.

    Things didn’t really go to plan. They didn’t set the world in fire OOC and other Patriot League teams have given them fits. They are not a lock to win the conference tourney and an at-large is completely out of the question.

    But they will probably win the league and they have a flair for the dramatic. If they end up winning out, a 13-14 seed is likely, which I expect they’d turn into a close and winnable game. And if not, a deep run in the NIT isn’t crazy to think about either.
     
  29. DukeSox

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    As much as ESPN wishes Tre Young at OK was the second coming of Steph, he is a good scorer but frequently a dumb player, and OK sucks, but he will still prob win NPOY from the mid season ESPN splooge fest
     
  30. garlan5

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    Hey we knocked out your punch list tonight
     
  31. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Oklahoma and Trae Young lose again, now 2-8 in their last 10 and going to Kansas on Monday.
     
  32. Buster Olney the Lonely

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    Another win yesterday at Holy Cross. I’ve started to root for Bucknell hoops because I went to school with Paul Harrison. Good guy.
     
  33. RingoOSU

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    This collapse is my favorite part of 2017. BTW, Kansas beat them by 30.
     
  34. DukeSox

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    Me too. Fuck Trae Young and Fuck ESPN for trying to create a story.
     
  35. RingoOSU

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    Really bothers me that they're still pretty much a lock when Oklahoma State is also 6-9 in conference, has also beaten Kansas, and is not even really on the bubble. It's all about Trae Young.
     
  36. DukeSox

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    You mean Mr. 2-11 from 3 Trae Young last night.
     
  37. The Needler

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    It's actually all about the metrics the committee uses to evaluate teams. Oklahoma State is way behind Oklahoma in all of them: https://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/images/2017/12/04/team_sheet_guide1.pdf

    RPI:
    OU - 37
    OSU - 95

    KPI:
    OU - 25
    OSU - 59

    SOR:
    OU -35
    OSU - 53

    BPI:
    OU - 45
    OSU - 67

    POM :
    OU -46
    OSU - 62

    SAG:
    OU -36
    OSU - 52

    Oklahoma's average of all metrics is 37.3; Oklahoma State's is 64.6. And Oklahoma has six quadrant 1 wins, to OSU's three. That's why one's in and the other's not on the bubble.
     
  38. RingoOSU

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    I still don't think either belong in the field of 64. winning 1 game in all of february should pretty much indicate the team is going nowhere in march.
     
  39. The Needler

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    That may be true, but Oklahoma's overall resume this year would have gotten it into the tourney every year, regardless of Trae Young, and despite struggling down the stretch. I'm sure you can recall your Cowboys losing 6 of their last 7 entering the tournament a couple of years ago and still getting in as a #9 seed.
     
  40. DukeSox

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    Lol take it so hard Louisville
     
  41. RingoOSU

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    Fuckin Travis Ford.
     
  42. shawnrbu

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    Shaka gives West Virginia a free timeout and Huggins draws up a play to tie the game sending this pivotal game to OT.
     
  43. Ale Xander

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    Ok why is the B1G playing their conference tournament so early? (yeah MSG is busy next week, why can't they play in Indy/Chicago/Detroit, etc.)
     
  44. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Rutgers.
     
  45. RedOctober3829

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    Because they stand to make more money having the tournament in NYC than not. The tournament at MSG has to be considered a success.
     
  46. wonderland

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    In what way? Now what are teams going to do between now and the NCAA tourney?
     
  47. Zososoxfan

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    Since Michigan bball didn't get a thread this season, they deserve a mention in this thread for winning back-to-back B1G tourneys. They won 4 games in 4 days, getting vengeance against a Nebraska squad that beat them on short rest earlier this season, finally getting the better of Purdue in a blowout, and absolutely erasing MSU. Again. Going into the BTT, Michigan was looking like a 5 seed, but this tournament win launches them firmly into 4 territory with an outside chance to get on the 3 line. Wolverine fans are focused on getting one of the Detroit slots since that will make the first weekend de facto home games. Kenpom has them at 9 while the AP and Coaches Poll have them at 7. They haven't lost since Feb. 6 and are on a roll once again. I think this team has a glaring FT weakness and lacks a truly elite athlete, which may hold them back from making it to the Final 4, but this team is playing with lots of confidence, has an outstanding defense, and is very well coached. I'd be legitimately surprised if they can't make it to weekend 2.
     
  48. RedOctober3829

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    Rest after a grind of a season that started back in July for a couple days then get back to practice. Intrasquad scrimmages. That sort of thing.
     
  49. wonderland

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    I could see if it ended on Wednesday that it would be good but I think that’s just too long of a break. Then again, I’m not a Leader or Legend so I probably shouldn’t doubt the Big 10.
     
  50. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    You might want to tell the conference commissioner it was a success. He already stated before the tournament that his idea didn't work and won't be repeated. They need to play a normal season, keep the tournament in Chicago and/or Indianapolis, and just move the championship game earlier on "Selection Sunday", so it matters (the committee has said they ignored it in the past because they couldn't rework things when it was the lead in to their show).

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