2016 Miami Dolphins: Amazing Gase
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Raiders win and Carr injury means Fish likely out unless KC beats Denver tomorrow. If Denver wins they'll likely beat oakland with mcgloin meaning Fish have to win
From 1-4 to the playoffs. Un-freakin'-real.
I don't smoke, but if I did, even the best sh-t wouldn't allow me think the Fins are likely to get past the 1st weekend, never mind make a SB run. But it's a great start to the Gase era. It's all gravy from here for me.
I don't smoke, but if I did, even the best sh-t wouldn't allow me think the Fins are likely to get past the 1st weekend, never mind make a SB run. But it's a great start to the Gase era. It's all gravy from here for me.
Dolphins only move up to #5 if they win and the Chargers beat the Chiefs, right?
I guess both teams have something to play for now, which oughta annoy Jimmy Garoppolo to no end.
I guess both teams have something to play for now, which oughta annoy Jimmy Garoppolo to no end.
The Fins are so beat up right now, but it's just not in Gase's DNA to let up and treat this upcoming week as a "BYE", especially with a chance to move up to a more favorable seeding. I figure those who can play will, and NE will get Miami's best shot come Sunday.
On paper, it really shouldn't be close, but as we've seen in seasons prior, anything can happen in Miami.
On paper, it really shouldn't be close, but as we've seen in seasons prior, anything can happen in Miami.
We made it, boys. What a surreal feeling. Bless you, Adam Gase. May you live a long a productive life, and remain in South Florida for eternity.
I agree that Miami should take next week to rest players with obvious ailments. Not punt the game like a preseason game, but guys that are obviously hurt, sit them. They need a win and a KC loss. Not impossible, but unlikely.
We want Pittsburgh, right? Their offense can potentially put up big points, but Ajayi also already shredded them for 200+.
With such a low likelihood of the Chargers beating KC, Miami probably ought to be resting starters. Not sure what will happen, but that's what I'd do as a coach.
Yeah a serious congats from another Pats fan here. When you guys showed some fight down huge week 2 to the Pats it raised an eyebrow for me, but never imagined you'd reach double digit wins. Feels like forever since we had a second AFC East team in the playoffs - just hope you don't hand us the same fate as the 2010 Jets!
Pittsburgh is a much better team than Houston and their offense is very tough to stop at home. I'd rather play Houston if I was a Miami fan and it's not close.
Sorry, I wrote that this morning thinking Baltimore still had a chance.
So Miami's two possibilities are 6 seed and then Pitt/NE or 5 seed and HOU/OAK. Seems like an absolute no brainer that they should at least push to win next week, even if they still need help to get the 5.
I don't think you jeopardize the playoffs going all in to win. If they get down early, maybe pull starters at the half and say you gave it an honest go. Ajayi can't carry it 30 times again next week. Give Drake and Williams some extended playing time.
Also, now that it's official, the focus shifts to Tannehill for the wild card round. What scares me the most is maybe the possibility of playing on that god awful field in Pittsburgh. With an already questionable knee, my worst fear is having Tannehill RGIII himself in the playoffs.
I think that right now, there's a better than 50% chance that Tannehill is starting in the playoffs.
While I agree that Moore has done a good job, he looked atrocious in the first half against Buffalo and threw up a terrible pick at the end of the half that cost Miami 3 points.
It's decisions like that that make me think they go to Tannehill as soon as he's ready. I think we covered this before: Tannehill is an exceptionally athletic QB, but he doesn't rely on his athleticism to make plays like Russell Wilson does. He can make plenty of plays with his arm standing in the pocket.
Having basically a full month off does concern me a bit, but all reports are Tannehill has been in every meeting and has been a part of the game planning these last few weeks.
I would personally like to see him progress to the point of at least going through some drills or participating in practice at some point this week.
Thanks. I actually deleted the question because I looked back and decided it might be kind of stupid. But this is a great answer.
Congratulations, 'phins fans; playoff football is a great Christmas gift. Also: nice thread title.
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME
No but seriously, Miami should try to win. Not only should they prefer the 5 seed, they have to beat good teams to do anything in the playoffs. Practice makes perfect.
No but seriously, Miami should try to win. Not only should they prefer the 5 seed, they have to beat good teams to do anything in the playoffs. Practice makes perfect.
This is kind of where I'm at. If we can all agree that a deep playoff run is highly improbable and the season from here on out is a dress rehearsal for future Super Bowl contention, why not go ball's out for that 5 seed and keep going full bore 'til you can't? If that #5 wasn't on the table, I might feel different, but I don't think they should hold back next week. That said, keeping Ajayi's touches between 20 - 25 would seem to be prudent.
As for Tannehill v. Moore if that even becomes an issue, that's a tough one. I think a lot will depend on how Moore plays next week. Another reason for the Dolphins to fire on all cylinders, in my opinion.
For what it's worth, I was also one who more or less threw in the towel. Along with many others. In fairness to most of us, though, we never stopped watching. Thank goodness.
Adam Gase is the anti-Rex Ryan.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article123003069.html
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Gase-Discusses-Playoff-Berth/ae9e3957-3439-4fd8-9e81-56eef17d5e92
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article123003069.html
Here's a link to the video of Gase's press conference with the media this afternoon:
http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Gase-Discusses-Playoff-Berth/ae9e3957-3439-4fd8-9e81-56eef17d5e92
Jesus I just had a good laugh thinking about how hard Rex Ryan would be patting himself on the back if he did what Gase and Miami accomplished this season.
Also keep in mind this team is now 4 wins better than 2015, and they're missing elite talent on both sides of the ball. Really remarkable what Gase has managed to do in his first season.
Great job by Gase to turn them around after a 1-4 start. But let's not forget the fact that they played a last place schedule this season.
The only four games different between NE and MIA schedules was Fins played SD and Tennessee and NE twice and Pats played Denver and Houston and Miami twice. Who had the harder schedule?
They played two different teams than the Patriots and went 1-1 in those games. That is not the reason they had a successful season.
They are like plus four in point differential. Great year but like Bowles last year I think one year isn't nearly enough of a sample to know if Gase is a good coach or not.
Yeah, this schedule argument is ridiculous. Guess what? They won those games. They could have lost them and missed the playoffs. They didn't. Miami deserves this. Congrats.
Coaching matters. This roster on D is materially worse than last year's team. No Vernon, 2/3 linebackers are worse, no reshad and no grimes. They win games because of special teams, big plays and fact team never quits. Even after starting 1-4 when I and many fans wanted them to quit and tank.
They are not a really good team yet. But, when players buy into a system then it makes the chances of your draft being successful greater, it helps you attract FAs who come not just for the money, etc. and, they will have a lot of $$$ to play with next year to improve. I can already see Barnwell's "teams most likely to regress" column featuring Miami given point differential, turnovers, DVOA etc. but Gase has won over the leaders of the team and for the first time in forever, there will expectation of success going forward. It's as exciting a time to be a Dolfan as has been since Jimmy Johnson took over
And Who knows, maybe Suh breaks Brady's fibula, Rivers finally wins a close game and Fish only need to get through Savage and Mcgloin and then Garrapolo...
Reality is Gase will play to win Sunday until his and KC results are determined. Then Leveon Bell goes for 350 all purpose yards in wild card game. I'm happiest for Cam Wake. I thought he was toast last year but guy still makes plays every week. His first playoff game at age 34
They are not a really good team yet. But, when players buy into a system then it makes the chances of your draft being successful greater, it helps you attract FAs who come not just for the money, etc. and, they will have a lot of $$$ to play with next year to improve. I can already see Barnwell's "teams most likely to regress" column featuring Miami given point differential, turnovers, DVOA etc. but Gase has won over the leaders of the team and for the first time in forever, there will expectation of success going forward. It's as exciting a time to be a Dolfan as has been since Jimmy Johnson took over
And Who knows, maybe Suh breaks Brady's fibula, Rivers finally wins a close game and Fish only need to get through Savage and Mcgloin and then Garrapolo...
Reality is Gase will play to win Sunday until his and KC results are determined. Then Leveon Bell goes for 350 all purpose yards in wild card game. I'm happiest for Cam Wake. I thought he was toast last year but guy still makes plays every week. His first playoff game at age 34
Regardless of all the positive signs that suggest Gase is going to be a really good coach in this league, I think this is a fair argument. Only time will tell.
As Patriot fans congratulate Fish fans, a fish fan reminds us why they were so fucking obnoxious until they finished ruining Marinos career.
I think if CC was forced to be serious, he'd admit that he doesn't truly root for serious player injuries.
I just want Brady to finally get old and start to suck. I mean, c'mon, it's been 17 years already!
I think I've used the "Suh is going to break Brady's leg joke roughly 40 times since they signed him to that absurd contract. Given every AFC QB sans smith, Ben and Brady have hurt their legs, seemed fitting to bring it back out
If Suh breaks Brady's leg, the Patriots will trot out a QB who absolutely torched the Fins earlier this year.
Looking forward to you going back to ripping/quitting on your own team, half a quarter into the game thread Sunday.
Much respect to Mike Pouncey in a very tough year physically. He had hip issues since preseason, and the offensive line helped turn this season around when Albert, Tunsil, and Pouncey played together for the first time against the Steelers. 17 sacks given up in the first 5 games, to none given up against the Steelers and the first of back-to-back 200+ rushing yard games. Pouncey's hip problems continued, and he last played in week 10.
I'd like to see Kenyan Drake get more touches this week. He took a play against Buffalo this week in the early second quarter that looked dead at the line of scrimmage. Instead, he spun around and took off with explosive speed for a 45-yard touchdown down the sideline.
UDFA from the CFL under Parcells in 2009, he is only 3.5 sacks behind Demarcus Ware and nobody else.
I'd like to see Kenyan Drake get more touches this week. He took a play against Buffalo this week in the early second quarter that looked dead at the line of scrimmage. Instead, he spun around and took off with explosive speed for a 45-yard touchdown down the sideline.
I know Ajayi's been terrific this year, and D-Williams has been very solid in the backup role, but I'm a little surprised Drake's only had 29 rushing attempts and 9 receptions all season. Despite this, I'm expecting him to be a major contributor over the next few years, hopefully a la Vereen in '14 and '15.
I think some people scoffed and viewed Drake as a reach in the third round. He was basically a KR/backup RB his whole career at Alabama. I think he's been showing why Miami valued him so highly. The dude has absolutely elite game breaking speed. He's flashed it on returns and on long runs.
That run he bounced back outside against Buffalo, it looked like at least two, maybe three Bills had angles to cut him off downfield, but he just turned on the jets and wouldn't be touched.
I think part of the reason he's been eased in is he was hurt most of the preseason with a hamstring issue, and then Ajayi went supernova. I do think that Drake's skill set is a great compliment to Ajayi. The more Ajayi pounds out carries, the more likely it becomes Drake can break a big gain on a worn out defense.
Drake had trouble picking up blocking schemes, so it was tough to use him as a regular third down back I thought? But agreed the guy will be a stud
Not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but it seems like it would be really tough to evaluate our running game in general based on that Buffalo game. That had to have been one of the worst displays of tackling by a team this year.
I don't have a ton to add that hasn't already been touched on, but Kraig Urbik has been a much needed improvement over Anthony Steen the last two weeks handling the protections and holding his own at the point of attack. I think he's quietly been another change Gase has seemed to nail.
I've been touting that Buffalo game as a loss since the schedule was released in the offseason. Never been happier to be wrong.
I don't think you ease up at all this Sunday. Go for the win. We're playing with house money at this point.
I've been touting that Buffalo game as a loss since the schedule was released in the offseason. Never been happier to be wrong.
I don't think you ease up at all this Sunday. Go for the win. We're playing with house money at this point.
Same here and my decision wouldn't even be close. You never risk injuries in Week 17 to play for seeding. Most of your regulars are banged up anyway so aside from eliminating injury risk they get an extra week to recover to be at optimal strength in the playoffs.
Congratulations to you Dolphin fans here. Enjoy this time.
Quaddus placed on IR, so now starting third string FS, a rookie off practice squad who's never played. Disaster.
Pats will run for 250 yards and throw for 350. lol
Pats will run for 250 yards and throw for 350. lol
You realize this game means nothing, right? We already made the playoffs. Let the cloud of pessimism pass for just one week.