2016 Boston College Football: Ever to Excel
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BC is better than Rutgers.
I also think they'd give SBCC a run for their money, but alas, not a P5 team.
I also think they'd give SBCC a run for their money, but alas, not a P5 team.
Not sure what criteria you would use, but I think their hoop program is borderline excellent, or at least extremely good. Many programs would salivate to have their W-L records over the last 10 years:
22-11
20-13
26-10
25-9
34-3
26-8
23-11
31-5
27-9
28-10
I know it's not the strongest conference, but they've also done respectable damage in the NCAA tournament. Pretty damn strong 10 years
and they turned out Kawhi Leonard. I agree with you - it is selling SD St short calling them a good, not great hoop program.
Right. Kawhi is otherworldly, but even if you exclude his time at SDSU, they still have 8 straight 20 win seasons and a 30 win season in there. A top 20 program for sure.
That's astounding to me. Syracuse just beat Virginia Tech on Saturday; VT beat BC 49-0 last month.
I guess if you hadn't watched BC play, you might ignore the Clemson game on the theory that they didn't have a chance, and conclude that they've generally played well, aside from the VT game.
They are good, not great, in a very weak conference. They have made the postseason as you pointed out but come up a little bit short most times. I'm not bashing them, I just think they are a bit overrated. Their biggest win was few years ago at Kansas. Not taking anything away form them but with those records you quote, you would think they would be Elite 8 perennials and maybe one or two Final 4 caliber. They have lost 2 NIT finals and been to the Sweet 16 twice. Most times they make the Dance and either lose in the first game or get bounced on the weekend of round 1. Again, a good solid mid major program IMHO, a notch below Gonzaga.
So you're saying a Jesuit university is allowed to have a competitive, occasionally outstanding basketball team? I wish someone would tell Leahy this. I thought Ex Corde Ecclesiae banned college athletics and BC was just acting in accordance with it.
Sorry for the hijack.
No problem , except BC is not supposed to be a mid major program....except it is now.
Why do I have the feeling that this is going to be a reverse WTF game and we win.
Just a hunch
Just a hunch
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But it begs the question......do you really want them to win? In the short term it's great, but in the long term, it will most likely save Dazzler's job. With a win Saturday. there is a road to 6 wins and a bowl, and hence Dazzler sticking around with his inept offensive schemes and press conferences full of cliches and excuses ("gritty, young, tough, young, grinding, young, young and young"), or do you hope for a blow out along the lines of 38-10 kind of thing and essentially proving that the program can't compete in the ACC and, like Purdue did last week, cut your losses and make the move now, ending the Dazzler experiment?
Personally, I wish they were playing NC State Saturday as I have no skin in that game other than being a BC football fan. This one is a bit tougher since I am a graduate of the 'Cuse so my thoughts are probably biased. I hope Syracuse wins as I think long term it is much healthier for both programs and the "rivalry" if you will. A 'Cuse win puts them in position to get to 6 wins (possible, and I say possible, wins over NC State and PItt are left on their schedule) and a bowl, which is a huge step up over where it's been the last couple of years. Further, I hope it seals the fate of Addazio and BC can turn the page on both it's AD and football coach this Fall and Winter and bring in a team that actually has a plan and can bring the program back to a first division level in FBS/P5. I think if BC wins, it causes both programs some issues in a negative way. One rather short term, the other rather long term.
BC does not play Pitt, and will be a two touchdown dog at NCST. They can beat UConn and should have a fighter's chance at Wake.
Per Blauds, Bates will not be spending the next few years in the Germantown known as San Diego.
Two really bad teams out there. Problem is Syracuse is a bad team with a first year head coach. BC is a bad team with a 4th year head coach.
And Syracuse is a bad team that is certainly much better than they were the previous year, and look like they are moving in the right direction.
BC on the other hand is as close to dead as a program can be.
I've seen enough of Towles. He isn't much of a QB. No field presence. Just a chucker. Is Wade that bad that he couldn't do much better than this?
It looks like they are not prepared. They have quit on their coach. It's time to pull the plug on this bleep show.
It looks like they are not prepared. They have quit on their coach. It's time to pull the plug on this bleep show.
He is a big guy who has straight line speed, but remarkably poor football sense. That is just 2 baffling plays running the ball. Cost BC 7 on the first drive, now cost them a big first down
The weather is miserable and they're not even showing the game on any screens in Conte. Fuck this program.
I'll give the eagles credit for one thing. They are creative in uncovering new ways to suck on offense.
That was the most BC play ever. This whole program should nuked. Everyone sucks.
It's pretty impressive that it's a just a one possession game when you have less than 50 passing yards
Yeah, this was a matchup of a couple of bad football teams, in bad weather. You saw plenty of reasons why Cuse is a long shot to get to 6 wins. Their offense is fun to watch, but BC did lull them to sleep at times. Babers really did everything he could to let BC back in the game at the end, I am of the believe that you need to run your offense and try to score with 7 minutes left in the 4th rather than try to kill clock
Bates needs to go first and you fire Daz this offseason. Give Christian this season to show a meaningful step forward in bball or fire him too.
But it all starts with a new AD because Bates should not have the chance to hire another coach.
But it all starts with a new AD because Bates should not have the chance to hire another coach.
Any possibility that Daz wanted to decline and their communication is so poor that they accepted it? Which is just as bad IMHO. Seemed like after SU got the false start penalty on the next play there was mass confusion; maybe about the down.
TV commentators were clueless. Didn't even bring up the odd choice to accept the penalty.
At this point I don't believe Bates is an employee of BC anymore. He is still taking a paycheck for a couple more weeks, but I don;t think he has any day to day responsibilities anymore and has been freed to seek other employment
Yeah, I don't think it was intentional. I think somehow he was unable to get his message to the officials. Or maybe he didn't realize at the time, but yes clearly immediately after they called the false start on the next snap he was going absolutely ballistic on the sideline trying to understand why it was first down still
Does that mean he would finally hire Kevin Gilbride as the head coach. Nice idea about TC and I'm a huge fan of his but his time has come and gone, IMHO.
I think we need a business person to come in and completely overhaul the entire department. I'm thinking a former CEO of a Fortune 1000 company who has ties to BC. They run the thing as a business and bring in the right consultants to help pick the right BC coach.
Well, I think he wouldn't leave Toys r Us and he technically doesn't qualify since he runs a privately held company owned by a PE firm (KKR). But I like your thinking. I'm thinking that is the way of the future. You need a CEO who can get the right group of people together to overhaul the entire program. It may not have the revenue stream of a Michigan or Notre Dame but $30+ million in revenue is still a substantial sum. You need a business person to run these departments. The days of a former jock overseeing an athletic department has come and gone. It is big business, no matter where one falls in the P5. You need a good solid business person to properly run it.
He is a classmate of my cousin at BC. A Natick guy...like Flutie. I was thinking maybe a Mike White (former CEO of Direct TV) or someone else like that.
Not sure you got the joke. Brandon is a Michigan alum who checked all of those boxes, and ran the program nearly into the ground.
No I didn't. But if that's the case then Michigan alums are 2 for 2 in running athletic programs onto the rocks. But I think I would try the business approach. The career athletic and sports management route hasn't worked too well lately.
Not sure how other programs set out their org charts but maybe there needs to be a subcommittee of the board of trustees that oversees athletics and holds ADs to fundraising goals, capital improvements coaching hires, etc. That way you take some of the oversight away from academics who are presidents and don't care about athletics except for graduation rates and revenues. Both are important but if you want to play in the P5 you need equal focus on facilities, fundraising, scheduling and competitiveness. BC lacks in all those areas.
The most important attribute for the next AD is the ability to influence Fr. Leahy and his eventual successor. I think we're better off with a Jesuit than a CEO, but either is preferable to an ex-jock who doesn't bring strong administrative credentials to the job.
Where the fuck were you sitting, not in your old seats because there were about 20 of us rain soaked asses up in QQ
I was talking about this tailgating the other day, but if it wasn't for bad luck, we'd have no luck at all, and most of it self inflicted. Let's start with the schedule, GT was a 'home' game in Dublin, I wonder how much we $ we lost on it. Then MassAggie, blown out at VT before we get the usual 2 piece of shit cupcake games on campus (one in the rain) and the only sounds on campus were crickets. Number 3 in the country in on a Friday night where it's imposiable to get to campus and oh yeah, the Sox are playing a playoff game, crickets. Saturday again shitty weather, 2shitty teams and plenty of empty parking spaces and seats.
So now what do we do? I've admitted before that when I was at Bates' town hall meeting when he was hired and Dazler spoke for a half an hour I bought it hook, line and sinker. In the past 5 years nothing has been done, other then parking in the old seminary.
We need someone to come in and scrap everything, DBS/Flynn Fund/ ticket sales... Everything. Do we have people who can afford the big $5k and 10k Flynn fund donations for parking? Shit yeah, but what good does one 10k spot do where there are 3 on each side empty and unsold. We get enough $ from the ACC right now to drop levels to where people will be willing to buy. Same goes with tickets,
I love the idea of Coughlin, but let's face it TC is 70 something and should ride off into the sunset and Canton, not take over this shit show. We need a BC guy who can come in who knows what we are, a Down P5 program in a pro town where it's hard to get eyeballs and coverage unless you are doing one thing WINNING
So now what do we do? I've admitted before that when I was at Bates' town hall meeting when he was hired and Dazler spoke for a half an hour I bought it hook, line and sinker. In the past 5 years nothing has been done, other then parking in the old seminary.
We need someone to come in and scrap everything, DBS/Flynn Fund/ ticket sales... Everything. Do we have people who can afford the big $5k and 10k Flynn fund donations for parking? Shit yeah, but what good does one 10k spot do where there are 3 on each side empty and unsold. We get enough $ from the ACC right now to drop levels to where people will be willing to buy. Same goes with tickets,
I love the idea of Coughlin, but let's face it TC is 70 something and should ride off into the sunset and Canton, not take over this shit show. We need a BC guy who can come in who knows what we are, a Down P5 program in a pro town where it's hard to get eyeballs and coverage unless you are doing one thing WINNING