2016 Bills: BRexit
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Allowing 34 points to Miami and their backup QB because your defense sucks and your QB isn't sensible enough to stay in bounds at the end of regulation, allowing Miami enough time to kick the tying FG? That's REXTOWN, baby!
He's gone.
He's gone.
Tyrod stiff arming on the option and allowing himself to get dragged out of bounds was idiotic. Slide down. Take a knee. Under no circumstances do you go out of bounds. Although Miami nearly out boneheaded them when Damian Williams refused to be tackled out of bounds with no timeouts causing the Franks running kick at the end of regulation.
Also, the Bills needed to win to keep their playoff hopes alive - a tie didn't help them. What the hell was he doing punting (in a 31-31 game!) on 4th and 2 from the 41 with four minutes left and one timeout?
MAN, Buffalo's media was anything but kind to Rex following today's loss.
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/12/what_buffalo_bills_coach_rex_ryan_had_to_say_after_losing_to_dolphins_transcript.html
Here's a few of the questions and responses"
Q: What happened with the decision with punting on fourth down with 4:00 left with your playoff future on the line?
A: At that time, and I even told our offense I said, " we're going to ride you guys if we can," but in that situation I was like we're going to pin them down deep, if we get a stop we're going to have time to get field goal range to win the game, so that was what I thought. I didn't think we'd have 10 guys on the field like we did on that run but that's what happened.
Q: Why did you expect your defense to make a stop when they didn't make one all day?
A: Well they did but like I say, I believe we'd get them stopped. I thought that obviously that was the right thing to do. Now it's easy to go back and say, " no you should have gone for it," well it's in our end. Now they're one first down away from winning the game themselves. I just thought that was the right move, pin them deep, and get the ball back again.
Q: You gained 589 yards. You could have done whatever you wanted to against them. Why not go for it?
A: Well it's certainly a consideration but I thought I'd pin them deep and then get the ball back and I know exactly how many yards we had. But every coach in America would have done the same thing backed up in your end, one first down away. And it's easy to sit back up there when your livelihood's not riding on it and say, " hey, I'd go ahead and do 'this' and 'this.'" I'm sure you would.
Q: Your defense gave up 34, they've given up 34 on average in their last seven losses. You're supposed to be a defensive coach.
A: I know you can question it all you want. I've been pretty decent throughout my career. Obviously this was a rough night, there's no question. We've had some tough ones but I think the league is -- I think offenses are pretty decent these days. They're able to move the football but again, I'll let my reputation stand for what it is and you can challenge it all you want.
Q: This is about your defense in the last seven games.
A: Right, I'm talking about any time. I'm talking about a body of work that's 20-some years in the making in this league. I think I can stand up here and -- whatever happens, happens but I'm going to tell you this, that I'll stand by my reputation. Let's just put it that way.
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/12/what_buffalo_bills_coach_rex_ryan_had_to_say_after_losing_to_dolphins_transcript.html
Here's a few of the questions and responses"
Q: What happened with the decision with punting on fourth down with 4:00 left with your playoff future on the line?
A: At that time, and I even told our offense I said, " we're going to ride you guys if we can," but in that situation I was like we're going to pin them down deep, if we get a stop we're going to have time to get field goal range to win the game, so that was what I thought. I didn't think we'd have 10 guys on the field like we did on that run but that's what happened.
Q: Why did you expect your defense to make a stop when they didn't make one all day?
A: Well they did but like I say, I believe we'd get them stopped. I thought that obviously that was the right thing to do. Now it's easy to go back and say, " no you should have gone for it," well it's in our end. Now they're one first down away from winning the game themselves. I just thought that was the right move, pin them deep, and get the ball back again.
Q: You gained 589 yards. You could have done whatever you wanted to against them. Why not go for it?
A: Well it's certainly a consideration but I thought I'd pin them deep and then get the ball back and I know exactly how many yards we had. But every coach in America would have done the same thing backed up in your end, one first down away. And it's easy to sit back up there when your livelihood's not riding on it and say, " hey, I'd go ahead and do 'this' and 'this.'" I'm sure you would.
Q: Your defense gave up 34, they've given up 34 on average in their last seven losses. You're supposed to be a defensive coach.
A: I know you can question it all you want. I've been pretty decent throughout my career. Obviously this was a rough night, there's no question. We've had some tough ones but I think the league is -- I think offenses are pretty decent these days. They're able to move the football but again, I'll let my reputation stand for what it is and you can challenge it all you want.
Q: This is about your defense in the last seven games.
A: Right, I'm talking about any time. I'm talking about a body of work that's 20-some years in the making in this league. I think I can stand up here and -- whatever happens, happens but I'm going to tell you this, that I'll stand by my reputation. Let's just put it that way.
That is some rough sledding there at Prime Minister's Questions. Especially the one that ends "you're supposed to be a defensive coach" rather than, you know, something with a question mark.
The Bills are under a microscope in that town. The fans are intense and they are (almost) the only game in town. Rex was only one of many clowns in the Big Apple, where the Jets are IMO no better than #6 in terms of fan support/interest. He's got nowhere to hide and they're not letting him off the hook.
I believe it was John Erlichman who suggested to Nixon that they let the FBI director "twist slowly, slowly in the wind."
That's what that presser was doing to Rex. And I love it. LOVE IT. Roast him over an open fire, guys, there's plenty of fat that will drip from that carcass.
That's what that presser was doing to Rex. And I love it. LOVE IT. Roast him over an open fire, guys, there's plenty of fat that will drip from that carcass.
And just look at that mealy-mouthed answer he gave to that: "I know you can question it all you want. I've been pretty decent throughout my career. Obviously this was a rough night, there's no question. We've had some tough ones but I think the league is -- I think offenses are pretty decent these days. They're able to move the football but again, I'll let my reputation stand for what it is and you can challenge it all you want."
Hurr durr I'm still great and boy howdy the offenses are tough these days and I'm still good my daddy told me so.
Rex is totally consistent. The "believe in myself, we'll give 100 percent effort, I can tell you that" mantra has been there all along.
Thanks for sharing that transcript. Sportsgasmic.
Thanks for sharing that transcript. Sportsgasmic.
Sports reporters of Buffalo -- Merry Christmas to you, and please take a bow.
Those questions were tough, fair and on point. Well done.
I can't help contrast this to the idiocy that is so often on display in Boston, where there is nothing to complain about, and New York City, where is much to complain about but where the media think it's all about clown school.
Those questions were tough, fair and on point. Well done.
I can't help contrast this to the idiocy that is so often on display in Boston, where there is nothing to complain about, and New York City, where is much to complain about but where the media think it's all about clown school.
The Bills had only 10 men on the field for Ajayi's 57 yard run in OT.
They thought Gilmore was going to be the 11th, but he wasn't on the field...because he was in concussion protocol.
It probably doesn't matter, though: when they did have 11 on the field against Miami this year, Ajayi had 59 carries for 363 yards.
They probably ought to get a defensive-minded coach to fix this mess!
They thought Gilmore was going to be the 11th, but he wasn't on the field...because he was in concussion protocol.
It probably doesn't matter, though: when they did have 11 on the field against Miami this year, Ajayi had 59 carries for 363 yards.
They probably ought to get a defensive-minded coach to fix this mess!
In any ponzi scheme, eventually the bill becomes due. Today apparently is that day for the Ryans.
Do head coaches ever return after hitting the networks? Parcells, Johnson, Ditka, Cowher, Gruden, Dungy, etc. That's a lot of excellent head coaching experience in the media, probably more cumulatively than is on the sidelines. Who was the last one to return to the sidelines?
I would think ESPN would have a slot for an affable idiot on the panel with the retirement of Boomer.
NFL Defensive coordinator and/or college coach would seem like unlikely next steps.
NFL Defensive coordinator and/or college coach would seem like unlikely next steps.
Incompetence, disappointment, unemployment....that's REXTOWN baby!
At least they won the offseason.
At least they won the offseason.
And didn't Parcells and J Johnson do media between their coaching stints.
Can't see that happening. I think that Brian Flores is the successor to Patricia. BB never brings in someone from the outside to be a coordinator. They had to already be in the program and get promoted.
The ponzi scheme analogy is hilarious; largely because it's accurate. In watching all of Rex's press conferences/interviews leading up to the MIA rematch, any casual fan would have thought that he had the right recipe all cooked up for Sunday. He was all things Rex -- arrogant, full of promises.
He's only 54 -- so I wouldn't be shocked if he gets another chance somewhere down the line. But he'll definitely be a defensive coordinator before that, which is something he might end up liking a helluva lot more than being a head coach.
I think Jimmy Johnson was the last major-network talking head to return to coaching. (ESPN and Fox Sports employ so many ex-coaches that I have to believe they've had one or two cycle back into coaching.)
I've said for years that NC State is the only coaching job that might coax Cowger out of retirement. The other ex-coaches on TV are either too old and/or out of the game too long (Johnson, and probably Gruden), or else there's no demand for their services (Herm Edwards, among others.
A little talk here in DC about him getting a call for the DC job here. The current guy (Joe Barry) is not too popular here.
I think he is too big a personality for Gruden to even consider. Rex would be Snyder's wet dream if Gruden falters next season and he is on staff.
I think he is too big a personality for Gruden to even consider. Rex would be Snyder's wet dream if Gruden falters next season and he is on staff.
Rex Ryan hasn't overseen a good defense since 2012 and turned an excellent unit when he arrived in Buffalo into a bad one. What the hell makes you think he's still a good defensive coordinator and would work well with a coach who won't just let him do his own thing?
BTW mild kudos to the Bills ownership for seeing through the fraud of Rex and canning his dumb ass after 2 years. He never should have been hired in the first place, of course, but pulling the plug on his act after two years at least shows some football acumen.
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And who in their right mind would think Rex could control himself enough to work under BB's organizational scheme?
Will BB do what Trump did to Romney, bring him in for an interview, get him to kiss his ass publicly then not hire him?
I know I'm in the minority, but Ryan is going to be an unbearable blowhard in the media. Just wait until he talks about how great he is and you have to listen to it every fucking day.
Other than Herm Edwards (who only does radio??), all the other ex NFL coaches in major TV roles presently or in the recent past have championship pedigree: Johnson, Gibbs, Gruden, Cowher, Parcells, Ditka. It would be worth it just to hear them chide Rex for his lack of rings.
As others have noted the answer is yes. But in all of the cases cited here, the coach was spectacularly unsuccessful (at least relative to their previous success) after taking more that a year or two off.
The only example I can think of that defies this would be Dick Vermeil, who worked as a broadcaster for 14 years before coming back to the Rams and eventually winning a Super Bowl. Then he "retired" again before coming back 2 years later to join the Chiefs and leading them fairly successfully.
It would not surprise me to see Rex take a few years and then come back - lot of dumb owners in the NFL - but I can't see him ever being successful.
As an aside, I think the reputation of his brother Rob has been so destroyed (for good reason) that he may never coach in the NFL again in any capacity.
Hmmm ... didn't realize he took three years off in between the Giants and Pats. So he's another example.
I agree--I think there will be some great nuggets from him, but they'll be sandwiched by fact-stretching narratives and ax-grinding baloney. The only coach in Rex's tier on tv is Herm Edwards, right? All the other guys actually won something at some point.
I can't understand this comment at all. Rex is like the polar opposite of BB in all respects. He has an insatiable need to put himself in the spotlight, he's full of bluster and refuses to take accountability when things are going poorly, and takes all of the credit when they go well. On top of this there really isn't any recent evidence that he's good at coaching defense at this point.
There's zero chance of this happening, thankfully.
Maybe he can get a job in a ladies shoe store.
I thought beating the Pats might save his job, along with the fact that the Bills were in playoff contention (technically, at least) right to Week 15. But I guess Brissett with half a thumb didn't really count. In the meantime, The Bills see Gase pushing the Dolphins forward, leaving Buffalo as #3 in the conference and heading the wrong way.
They did well to cut bait.
I thought beating the Pats might save his job, along with the fact that the Bills were in playoff contention (technically, at least) right to Week 15. But I guess Brissett with half a thumb didn't really count. In the meantime, The Bills see Gase pushing the Dolphins forward, leaving Buffalo as #3 in the conference and heading the wrong way.
They did well to cut bait.
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