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Butler with 16/10/10, Wade with 20/9/10. It's probably happened in recent history, but I'm guessing 2 teammates putting up a triple double in regulation doesn't happen very often.
 

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How many games until we start hearing about how Boogie is causing problems in New Orleans and the trade "isn't working out."
 

Cesar Crespo

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They may be worse after the trade but not because of Boogie. It's because they have no players left and released Terrance Jones on top of it. They have to replace 65+ minutes a night with just Boogie. That team literally has nothing after Davis, Cousins and Jrue. The only young player they have is a PF, everyone else other than Davis is over 25, and the 2 who are 25 turn 26 before the season is over. It's not like there's hope for improvement on the roster internally.
 

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CLE blown out at home with LeBron out sick, they're now 4-19 without him the last three seasons.
 

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And CHI is 4-0 against them this year. Let's hope they meet in the first round.
3-0 actually, one without LeBron/Love, one without Kyrie/Love, and one where Taj Gibson (now gone) played the best game of his career. I wouldn't get too excited about the possibilities there.
 

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is Embiid a lock to win ROY if he plays less than 40 games? If it isn't him, is it Dario Saric? If he continues his recent play, it's a lock. If not, ROY is pretty much up for grabs if it's not Embiid.
 

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is Embiid a lock to win ROY if he plays less than 40 games? If it isn't him, is it Dario Saric? If he continues his recent play, it's a lock. If not, ROY is pretty much up for grabs if it's not Embiid.
Brogdan would be my pick right now after Embiid. Saric isn't really close to be honest.
 

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Stupid-ass Boogie Cousins instigated a silly back and forth with Steven Adams in the first minute tonight, double T, one game suspension if it's not revoked which it shouldn't be. Good luck, New Orleans.
 

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Westbrook just annihilating NO in the fourth; 21 in the quarter alone. Fourth 40 point triple-double of the season for Westbrook.
 

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pj tucker had 2 points and 1 rebound in 21 minutes today, can't believe the Cs didn't trade for him (Ibaka on the other hand looks really good though I'm happy the Cs didn't give up a 1st and rozier for 25 games of him)
 

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pj tucker had 2 points and 1 rebound in 21 minutes today, can't believe the Cs didn't trade for him (Ibaka on the other hand looks really good though I'm happy the Cs didn't give up a 1st and rozier for 25 games of him)
Do we really need another okay small guard for 15 minutes a game? Do we really need another low 20s first round draft choice? Do we REALLY NEED another competent big man?
 

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In the opening minutes of the Warriors at Wizards game, Zaza Pachulia fell backwards and his gargantuan head hit Kevin Durant in the knee. Durant then limped to the locker room and is out for the game. At best it looks like a bad hyperextension.

Lowry is out in Toronto and while the Cavs have signed the corpse of Deron Williams and the picked-over carcass of Andrew Bogut but that still won't help get LeBron a ton of rest. There still exists a very decent possibility that the finals aren't the foregone conclusion we thought they were.
 

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In the opening minutes of the Warriors at Wizards game, Zaza Pachulia fell backwards and his gargantuan head hit Kevin Durant in the knee. Durant then limped to the locker room and is out for the game. At best it looks like a bad hyperextension.

Lowry is out in Toronto and while the Cavs have signed the corpse of Deron Williams and the picked-over carcass of Andrew Bogut but that still won't help get LeBron a ton of rest. There still exists a very decent possibility that the finals aren't the foregone conclusion we thought they were.
In fairness to Zaza (and I hate this guy), Gortat basically tossed him right into Durant's knee. May have been some acting but hard to tell. Will be very interesting to see.

People are really sleeping on the Spurs. They are pretty quietly chugging along as they always do.
 

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Good thing we didn't get Durant. He is obviously injury prone and can't stay on the court. Dodged a bullet with that one.
 

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Curry just went down hard too and tweaked his knee.

And BSF, I wasn't blaming Zaza for that - you are right about Gortat shoving him. I actually like Zaza despite his virtual planetoid of a head. But because it killed Durant's knee, he may go home and cry himself to sleep on his big pillow.
 

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So, what does Otto Porter get offered this offseason? One of the best 3nD players in the NBA - does he have the ability (handle) to expand his role if given a chance?

Max contract for him apparently is around $25.5.
 

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Porter had an unbelievable offensive rebound in that game to clinch it for Washington. I read today since the 2016 All Star break Porter has knocked down 50 percent of his threes. He is turning into a very good NBA player after a slow start.
 

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So, what does Otto Porter get offered this offseason? One of the best 3nD players in the NBA - does he have the ability (handle) to expand his role if given a chance?

Max contract for him apparently is around $25.5.
Certainly not identical players but I'd be perfectly happy if Jaylen followed Porter's trajectory starting with his 2nd season since his rookie year was basically a redshirt.
 

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That's what she said.
Porter is the "best" three point shooter in the league right now. 46% (rounded up.).

He will be maxed by Washington at midnight of the first day. Puts a lot of money in Wall/Beal/Porter, but, if they don't any team with the room will do it.
 

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I think GS is still a favorite even without Durant. After all, it's basically last year's team.
Actually, no, GS gave up Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Speights, Ezeli, Barbosa, etc. when they signed KD. So, no, it's not last year's team. But, I agree that GS is still a favorite. For me, though, the NBA suddenly became more interesting.....
 

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Now it didn't happen on deadline day for Boston, but this is why upgrades, even on the fringes, aren't worthless. Sometimes the path to a chance at a title gets a little brighter. Shit happens.
 

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Now it didn't happen on deadline day for Boston, but this is why upgrades, even on the fringes, aren't worthless. Sometimes the path to a chance at a title gets a little brighter. Shit happens.
Yeah. Between Love, Lowry, and Durant things have gotten pretty interesting all of a sudden.
 

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This is exactly why I was advocating going after a guy like Millsap when he was (briefly) available. If the cost had been something like a Celtics 1st and Rozier, the C's would be rolling into the playoffs with IT, Bradley, Crowder, Millsap, Horford with Smart, Olynyk, brown, Amir, etc. coming off the bench. And they'd still have all of their top assets. That's a very good, very deep team that could win a championship right now.
 

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Now it didn't happen on deadline day for Boston, but this is why upgrades, even on the fringes, aren't worthless. Sometimes the path to a chance at a title gets a little brighter. Shit happens.
Indeed. I wonder whether the Cs would have had this same trade deadline outcome had this happened a week earlier. Of course we will never know. However this sort of thing is exactly why you don't stop trying to get better.

It now feels inevitable that LeBron is going to show some effects from averaging 37.5 mpg too.
 

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Warriors seem to know that Durant is done. He probably failed the Lachman test as the team announced that they would honor their prior commitment to Calderon by signing him and immediately releasing him so he gets paid and/or can latch on to another playoff team for the purpose of signing Matt Barnes to replace Durant.
 

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Now it didn't happen on deadline day for Boston, but this is why upgrades, even on the fringes, aren't worthless. Sometimes the path to a chance at a title gets a little brighter. Shit happens.
Alternatively, they could have given up Brown and a Nets first for Cousins and Cousins could have torn his ACL the first game for Boston. You can't bank on injury luck, you build based on what is in front of you at the time. Had Durant torn his ACL last week, that's a different story of course. Something like the Millsap deal would have made more sense, however.
 

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Actually, no, GS gave up Harrison Barnes, Bogut, Speights, Ezeli, Barbosa, etc. when they signed KD. So, no, it's not last year's team. But, I agree that GS is still a favorite. For me, though, the NBA suddenly became more interesting.....
Barnes to Barnes is probably the only net loss here.

I would take Pachulia and West over Bogut and Speights, and the rest of the bench has been replaced by competent younger guys like Clark, Looney, etc.

Sounds like Durant will be back.

 
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I like the cavs better than the warriors now as long as love is okay. Plus Jr is coming back and Deron Williams is going to be big for them off the bench. He takes the Delly role from last year, but he will be even better than him on the catch and shoot plays
 

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Alternatively, they could have given up Brown and a Nets first for Cousins and Cousins could have torn his ACL the first game for Boston. You can't bank on injury luck, you build based on what is in front of you at the time. Had Durant torn his ACL last week, that's a different story of course. Something like the Millsap deal would have made more sense, however.
Of course.

I'm not saying you plan for other teams to have injuries, I'm saying that if it's a good trade, fair value, etc. then "this doesn't make us better than Team X right now" shouldn't be a reason not to make deal.

I'm not saying Ainge did that, I'm saying that there were a bunch of posts that seemed to say that.
 

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I like the cavs better than the warriors now as long as love is okay. Plus Jr is coming back and Deron Williams is going to be big for them off the bench. He takes the Delly role from last year, but he will be even better than him on the catch and shoot plays
I actually like the Cavs better without Love. It allows more minutes for Korver who is lethal both as a shooter and as a decoy in this offense while having the ball in LeBron and Kyrie's hands more often. He's a much better fit for what they do in the playoffs imo.
 

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I actually like the Cavs better without Love. It allows more minutes for Korver who is lethal both as a shooter and as a decoy in this offense while having the ball in LeBron and Kyrie's hands more often. He's a much better fit for what they do in the playoffs imo.
Agreed.
The killer injury (aside from LeBron of course, who is indestructible anyway) is Kyrie. They lose Kyrie and it's game over. They'll be fine without Love.
 

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Does Durant still make an All NBA team if he is out for the rest of year, and if not does that spot go to Paul George? Would make a significant difference in what the Pacers can offer.