It's secondary information. I saw people saying that the information was from Vegas Insider. I do not know where on the VI website this information would be located.Average Reds said:Any source for that info?
It's secondary information. I saw people saying that the information was from Vegas Insider. I do not know where on the VI website this information would be located.Average Reds said:Any source for that info?
sachmoney said:It's secondary information. I saw people saying that the information was from Vegas Insider. I do not know where on the VI website this information would be located.
This is the thread I had read, FWIW: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-msu-vegas-spread-increasingAverage Reds said:
That's fine. Just seems like the movement of the line is at odds with the report of where the money is going. But ultimately not my concerns.
Go Blue.
Now you know what BC goes through every time the special teams head out on the field. Shitty way to lose a game. But you're still in the hunt for a good bowl game and maybe even the Rose Bowl if you can run the table and a couple of things break your way.twibnotes said:Life fucking sucks
Blame wbvtwibnotes said:Life fucking sucks
Losing to Sparty that way is soul crushing though. They could win out and that hideous loss will scar the seasonberniecarbo1 said:Now you know what BC goes through every time the special teams head out on the field. Shitty way to lose a game. But you're still in the hunt for a good bowl game and maybe even the Rose Bowl if you can run the table and a couple of things break your way.
You're a moron. So many flaws in your post, I don't have the time or energy to address them. Just go away.Soxfan in Fla said:Karma bitches. Great win for MSU. Having your hearts ripped out like that is perfect karma for a fanbase that has been sending death threats to your punter since the game ended. Walverine Nation is pathetic.
You're trolling a Michigan fanbase on a Red Sox forum? Really?Soxfan in Fla said:Karma bitches. Great win for MSU. Having your hearts ripped out like that is perfect karma for a fanbase that has been sending death threats to your punter since the game ended. Walverine Nation is pathetic.
Good news is, you're right.Average Reds said:Soul-crushing would be a good description of the ending. But in the long run, just a (rather significant) bump in the road back to dominance.
Yes, I'm actually trying to convince myself of this.
I mean, I get the optimism, but is it really a reasonable expectation to have a QB who is going to be a top 5-8 pick?twibnotes said:Good news is, you're right.
This loss sucks bc it sucks to lose that way, especially against Michigan State (my disdain for them has escalated to Buckeye hatred levels). The silver lining is that the loss does not suck as a sign of the future. We are still heading in a great direction.
Imagine that game if we had a QB with 70 pct of Connor Cook's skills (a reasonable expectation in the future) - we roll to an easy win.
70 percent of Connor Cook is a top 5 pick? Okay.PC Drunken Friar said:I mean, I get the optimism, but is it really a reasonable expectation to have a QB who is going to be a top 5-8 pick?
I know that's what he was saying, but it was non-responsive to the actual statement twibnotes made. The point isn't whether Michigan has a QB who's better tha MSU's QB; it's whether it has a QB good enough to win the conference. This year, it doesn't. It's not unreasonable to believe that within the next few years, it will.bowiac said:I think he was saying Connor Cook is going to be a top 5 pick, but either way, I think that's getting bogged down. The biggest talent gap on the field between the teams was probably at QB (maybe at WR - hard to disentangle).
WayBackVazquez said:Terrible way to end what had been a great day, obviously. The loss hurts, but I don't think this team is a legitimate NC contender this year with Rudock at QB, so probably not the end of the world.
Rudock didn't play great, but he also didn't turn the ball over, and kept them in position to win the game. Jourdan Lewis had his worst game of the season, the OL really struggled most of the time, and the personal foul calls, the defensive holding, and the non-call on the Ruduck facemask were large, too.
Most of us expected us to be at 5-2 here before the season, and plenty of outsiders thought we were being Pollyanna to think so. So here we are, with a better team than expected ready for the second half. And we get to watch Jabrill.
It's pretty stupid and lazy (especially for you) to trot out the old "expect better from" trope in a situation like this. It's 2015, and Twitter exists. Every time there is a major sporting event for the rest of eternity in which there is an easily identifiable "goat," there will be some idiots in that team's fanbase who spout some form of "you should kill yourself" in whatever is the medium du jour. What kind of tweets do you think Bill Buckner would have received in 1986?dcmissle said:It is too bad the AD had to issue a statement urging certain fans to lay off the punter -- lest they lose the game twice, which was an apt way to put it.
I have no rooting interest here, other than thinking football is better when certain programs are good. Michigan is one of those. I have no part of any rivalry, and I'm not trolling.
Maybe I'm being a bit naive, but in terms of the fan response, I expected better from Michigan.
The AD statement was absolutely the right thing to do.
Someone from mgoblog analyzed the negative tweets and said they were 90 pct from teenagers for whatever that is worth.dcmissle said:It is too bad the AD had to issue a statement urging certain fans to lay off the punter -- lest they lose the game twice, which was an apt way to put it.
I have no rooting interest here, other than thinking football is better when certain programs are good. Michigan is one of those. I have no part of any rivalry, and I'm not trolling.
Maybe I'm being a bit naive, but in terms of the fan response, I expected better from Michigan.
The AD statement was absolutely the right thing to do.
Yeah, that's why I wasn't second guessing so much as reconciling my personal reaction in the moment with his. Given what happened, I agree that they should have just ran the ball instead of punting. A fumble can happen on any play, but a punter is so much more vulnerable than a running back or QB. Also, do you tell your punter to run toward the line if the snap is botched? Do you put that even in his head? You don't want any doubt in that kid's head...dcmissle said:For every good tweet, there probably are 100 that are regrettable.
As for the second guessing, the natural inclination is to try to get the punt off. Even if it goes for 10 or 25 yards, that's probably the game.
And there has been plenty of second guessing. If I heard Mark May correctly, they should not have even attempted a punt but instead run into the line. That's easy to say now, but then you are giving State at least one shot into the end zone.
You practice this stuff all year and you execute it a good number of times every game. It is reasonable to expect that you'll be able to execute.
sachmoney said:Yeah, that's why I wasn't second guessing so much as reconciling my personal reaction in the moment with his. Given what happened, I agree that they should have just ran the ball instead of punting. A fumble can happen on any play, but a punter is so much more vulnerable than a running back or QB. Also, do you tell your punter to run toward the line if the snap is botched? Do you put that even in his head? You don't want any doubt in that kid's head...
WayBackVazquez said:Rumors starting to gain steam that Harbaugh & Co. are about to flip OSU commit and #1 ranked RB recruit Kareem Walker who visited last weekend.
WayBackVazquez said:17th (tie) in the coaches poll; t15 in the AP.
University of Michigan student posts 5,000 flyers on campus claiming football star Jabrill Peppers gave her chlamydia: ‘You really are a despicable piece of s---'