2015 Bills: Go Rex Go

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As my username proves, I'm kind of a troll. There is a fascinating thread on a Bills message board where their fans debate which is better - Winning One Super Bowl or Losing Four Straight.

I say "fascinating" because about half think losing four consecutive SBs is somehow better because it will probably never be done again and nobody cares about a team that just wins one Super Bowl. I can't tell if they're serious or just rationalizing.

A poster:
Going 4 consecutive years in a row to the Super Bowl is something that may never be accomplished again in the NFL, period.
Case in point is the 2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Anyone really remember or care that they actually won a Super Bowl? Pretty irrelevant in the NFL other than that year.
PS - I visit other team's sites after losses for the whole schadenfreude thing, but I never sign up and post anymore. I'm much too sophisticated and mature. :popcorn
 

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As my username proves, I'm kind of a troll. There is a fascinating thread on a Bills message board where their fans debate which is better - Winning One Super Bowl or Losing Four Straight.

I say "fascinating" because about half think losing four consecutive SBs is somehow better because it will probably never be done again and nobody cares about a team that just wins one Super Bowl. I can't tell if they're serious or just rationalizing.

A poster:


PS - I visit other team's sites after losses for the whole schadenfreude thing, but I never sign up and post anymore. I'm much too sophisticated and mature. :popcorn
On one hand, they right in that it most likely won't ever occur again. On the other hand, what a friggin losers mentality. Kill me if I ever start thinking that way.
 

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well Bills players are taking the loss well

PHILADELPHIA -- LeSean McCoy ran directly to the locker room and did not interact with any Philadelphia Eagles players or coaches on the field after the Buffalo Bills' 23-20 loss Sunday.

The game marked McCoy's first game back at Lincoln Financial Field since he was traded by Philadelphia this past offseason to Buffalo.

McCoy, who was booed by fans as he ran into the tunnel, slammed his helmet against a wall in frustration and yelled obscenities as he entered the locker room. He later declined an interview to a large group of reporters surrounding his locker, saying, "I've got nothing to say."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14355890/lesean-mccoy-buffalo-bills-kisses-field-hugs-philadelphia-eagles-owner-jeffrey-lurie-snubs-postgame-handshakes


Joe Buscaglia ‏@JoeBuscaglia 1h1 hour ago
LeSean McCoy ran off the field, first one in the locker room, slammed his helmet against a wall and screamed "F*ck! F*ck" #Bills
 

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Just as a reminder, he said these things in his introductory press conference



I know it’s been 15 years since the Bills made the playoffs. Well get ready, man, we’re going. We are going.



Fourth in the league is probably a little disappointing, to be honest with you, because that’s not where my expectations are. I know we’ll lead the league in defense.


Q: When the Bills fans look at your record with the Jets, why should they believe that they’re getting more than a mediocre coach?
RR: Because I think that they realize that I’m not a mediocre coach. The record may say that, especially this year. You mentioned that we had two 8-8 and then a couple losing seasons or lousy seasons, but they understand the game a lot better than you give them credit for. I’m not a mediocre coach and anybody that thinks so, I would challenge them with that.
 

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Fish rots from the head -- whining and lack of accountability are a cancer. Thx Rex!
 

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Q: When the Bills fans look at your record with the Jets, why should they believe that they’re getting more than a mediocre coach?
RR:
Because I think that they realize that I’m not a mediocre coach. The record may say that, especially this year. You mentioned that we had two 8-8 and then a couple losing seasons or lousy seasons, but they understand the game a lot better than you give them credit for. I’m not a mediocre coach and anybody that thinks so, I would challenge them with that.
You're right Rex, you're not a mediocre coach. You're a really shitty coach.
 

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I don't even think it's that. I think his MO is to create a scene, be it with players, "outrageous" comments, stupid tattoos, histrionic sideline displays, whatever...to deflect as much press attention from the team's play as he can.

He knows that the Buffalo media has X amount of football coverage. If he can get 20% of that to be about anything other than the loss itself, well, great.
 

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You're right Rex, you're not a mediocre coach. You're a really shitty coach.
In the end everyone winds up agreeing with me.

I cannot understand why the Bills fans would be surprised by this. Rex has a track record, it's right out there for everyone to see. Did they really think he was going to change when the Bills hired him? He got millions upon millions of dollars for the Bills' dumbfuck owners just because he's Rex and talks big; he's never going to change or improve because he doesn't have to.

He's a goddamn fraud, and shame on the Bills and their fans for allowing themselves to be hoodwinked by this charlatan. They knew what was coming and deluded themselves into thinking this time it would be different.
 

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In the end everyone winds up agreeing with me.

I cannot understand why the Bills fans would be surprised by this. Rex has a track record, it's right out there for everyone to see. Did they really think he was going to change when the Bills hired him? He got millions upon millions of dollars for the Bills' dumbfuck owners just because he's Rex and talks big; he's never going to change or improve because he doesn't have to.

He's a goddamn fraud, and shame on the Bills and their fans for allowing themselves to be hoodwinked by this charlatan. They knew what was coming and deluded themselves into thinking this time it would be different.
It's amazing that Taylor is on pace for 3,000 yards, 22/6 TD/INT ratio, over 100 QB rating and nearly 500 yards rushing in 13 games and they're still going to miss the playoffs. With all the chatter about the greatest D in history and if they Bills only had a QB. Rex got more than a serviceable QB for most of the year and they're still going to miss the playoffs. Fraud is right.
 

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Yes, but Buffalo has lost 5 games by one score or less. They're so close to running the AFC and I know that nobody will want to play them next year...
 

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Loved this line from Rodak. I get the feeling he is kind of enjoying watching the Bills fail

When the Bills' 2015 season is examined years from now, this is how Ryan's first year at the helm will be remembered: An undisciplined team tripped over yellow flags on its way to the franchise's 16th consecutive season out of the playoffs.
 

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This is just great. The Bills coaches were yelling at the officials after the game and somebody (apparently the DC) called their work a disgrace to the NFL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/13/bills-to-officials-after-game-its-a-disgrace-to-the-nfl/
In the end everyone winds up agreeing with me.

I cannot understand why the Bills fans would be surprised by this. Rex has a track record, it's right out there for everyone to see. Did they really think he was going to change when the Bills hired him? He got millions upon millions of dollars for the Bills' dumbfuck owners just because he's Rex and talks big; he's never going to change or improve because he doesn't have to.

He's a goddamn fraud, and shame on the Bills and their fans for allowing themselves to be hoodwinked by this charlatan. They knew what was coming and deluded themselves into thinking this time it would be different.
When he was hired I was worried that he'd be a bit like BB and learn from his past mistakes. He appears to be a good motivator and a good defensive coach so maybe he was going to be less bombastic, or get an MIT grad to manage his timeouts, or make sure to have some smart players, or try to create a balanced team rather than a defensively focused team, or be more involved in the offense, or something.

Nope. Exact same guy. Completely unchanged.
 

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This is just great. The Bills coaches were yelling at the officials after the game and somebody (apparently the DC) called their work a disgrace to the NFL.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/13/bills-to-officials-after-game-its-a-disgrace-to-the-nfl/


When he was hired I was worried that he'd be a bit like BB and learn from his past mistakes. He appears to be a good motivator and a good defensive coach so maybe he was going to be less bombastic, or get an MIT grad to manage his timeouts, or make sure to have some smart players, or try to create a balanced team rather than a defensively focused team, or be more involved in the offense, or something.

Nope. Exact same guy. Completely unchanged.
Totally the same. He's an unhinged idiot whose team follows his unhinged antics. I have a good friend who is a die head Buffalo fan and he was very psyched at the Rex era. I was warning him it would all end badly. He's really never had that much success as a head coach and his success entailed two playoff seasons where the team backed into the playoffs both times and then won a couple of big games.
 

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Totally the same. He's an unhinged idiot whose team follows his unhinged antics. I have a good friend who is a die head Buffalo fan and he was very psyched at the Rex era. I was warning him it would all end badly. He's really never had that much success as a head coach and his success entailed two playoff seasons where the team backed into the playoffs both times and then won a couple of big games.
Rex's HC career is probably not likely to extend beyond whatever time he has in Buffalo unless he gets lucky enough to repeat this (at least for one season). And I wonder if it's not next season, whether the Buffalo ownership might just pull the plug.
 

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I'd say at this point, the evidence re: Rex as coach in 2015 is clear, and damning.

Last year: Jets 4-12, Bills 9-7
This year: Jets very much in the hunt at 8-5; Bills pretty well done at 6-7

And...last year Bills allowed 289 points against (4th in the league, 18 ppg), this year through 13 games, 301 (15th, 23 ppg). Meanwhile, Jets allowed 401 last year (24th, 25 ppg), and through this year, 256 (10th, 20 ppg)

As a Bill (Parcells) once said, you are what your record says you are. The record says the way Rex delivers benefit is by leaving.
 

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When he was hired I was worried that he'd be a bit like BB and learn from his past mistakes. He appears to be a good motivator and a good defensive coach so maybe he was going to be less bombastic, or get an MIT grad to manage his timeouts, or make sure to have some smart players, or try to create a balanced team rather than a defensively focused team, or be more involved in the offense, or something.

Nope. Exact same guy. Completely unchanged.
BB did something else between head coaching jobs besides be an NFL head coach. He coached under Parcells for 4 years. Rex was fired by the Jets and hired by the Bills 2 weeks later. Assuming he must have interviewed for the Bills job, it's likely Rex had no time to reevaluate his approach to coaching, much less learn something new.
 

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BB did something else between head coaching jobs besides be an NFL head coach. He coached under Parcells for 4 years. Rex was fired by the Jets and hired by the Bills 2 weeks later. Assuming he must have interviewed for the Bills job, it's likely Rex had no time to reevaluate his approach to coaching, much less learn something new.
Sure but Rex could have been reevaluating his approach during his last couple years in New York (when he didn't have control over coaching hires or the roster).
 

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It's amazing that Taylor is on pace for 3,000 yards, 22/6 TD/INT ratio, over 100 QB rating and nearly 500 yards rushing in 13 games and they're still going to miss the playoffs. With all the chatter about the greatest D in history and if they Bills only had a QB. Rex got more than a serviceable QB for most of the year and they're still going to miss the playoffs. Fraud is right.
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More schadenfreude for @Smiling Joe Hesketh

Mike Rodak tears down Rex's introductory press conference from last January

Ryan's quote: "I'm not going to let our fans down. I am not going to do that. I know it's been 15 years since the Bills made the playoffs. Well, get ready, man, we're going. We are going."

The reality: The Bills almost certainly will miss the playoffs. Linebacker Nigel Bradham said Tuesday that it's important for the Bills "pretty much just to finish up what we started. Not quitting, pretty much being able to just go out there and finish. Finish the season with a winning record, and get ready for next year." Inherent in that statement is the realization that the playoffs are out of reach.
Etc.
 

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This one is my favorite

The reality: Ryan was heavily criticized for his use of challenges in the Bills' loss to the Chiefs last month, a game in which Ryan essentially made the wrong call on five different plays where he either threw his challenge flag or did not challenge a play that was close enough to warrant a second look. In a study published last week by ESPN Insider's Andrew Healy, Ryan ranked 31st among NFL head coaches in strategic decision-making this season. The analysis took into account fourth-down decisions, clock management and challenges.
 

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Was just searching for an image of Rex to post in another thread, and Yahoo told me that for people who searched Rex Ryan, a popular "also searched" was Adam Sandler.

Make of that what you will.
 

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Were they? I wouldn't know. I despise Sandler and would rather bob for cow shit in a fire ant hill than watch anything he did.
 

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And they've officially clinched a worse record this year than last when they had Marrone and Orton running the show. GJGE you fucking fraud.
Yeah, I was just thinking that Doug Marrone should be sending Rex a big old Christmas present. With each game, Rex makes Doug look more impressive, which might help him grab a head-coaching job this off season. Plus I think the Jags, despite their loss today, seem like a better bit to make a leap forward next year than the Bills.
 

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I think Rex was right about one thing. He did build that bully. What he didn't know then and what he must know now is that bullies are never, ever as tough as they think they are.
 
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Yes, that is true. He did, however, address this in his introductory press conference. He said he learns from experience. I hope he continues to do so with the Bills for the next 4 years.
 

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Gotta love the crack about wishing Mario had 20 sacks. Pack up, Mario, you're about to get sacrificed at Rex's alter of "it wasn't me it was somebody else"
Mario could actually be cut/traded--he's a $7 million cap hit for the bills if the gets traded which is bad but not as bad as the roughly 20 million he'd cost if they kept him.
 

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14421693/buffalo-bills-lb-preston-brown-says-play-calls-coming-late-coaches-booth
Buffalo linebacker Preston Brown said Tuesday that personnel and play calls have been coming in late from the coaches' booth this season.
It's the latest expression of frustration from a Bills defender in Rex Ryan's disappointing first season as coach.

"I don't know who that guy is [in the coaches' box], but we talk about it in the meetings," Brown said. "It's been an issue with the personnel coming in and out. I mean, you can see it on games: People are running in and out; we're changing plays here and there. So it's definitely been an issue."
Business as usual in Rexyland.
 

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Bill Polian fucking unloads on Rex. He spews shrapnel at just about everyone in the Bills organization, in what seems like a pretty transparent attempt to get a paying gig. But he saves the best stuff for Rex, starting with his total lack of understanding around replay challenges which came to light after the Chiefs game in November:

“I was shocked when I heard that – shocked out of my shoes,” Polian said. “Everyone in the league has a” replay “system and a person assigned to it. Secondly,” defensive “calls not getting in on time and too many men on the field. You should never have too many men on the field because if the offense substitutes, you can substitute. You have all the time you need to make those substitutions. If the offense doesn’t substitute, you’re not worried about substituting. That’s clear-cut.”

And what of the many problems with players struggling to learn or flat-out rejecting Ryan’s defensive scheme?

His answer will no doubt be music to the ears of Mario Williams, Jerry Hughes, Marcell Dareus, Preston Brown, and other players who have openly questioned the defense’s fit for those who have to play it.

“You need veterans to make that defense work,” Polian said. “First of all, the players thrived in another system – in a simple, straight forward, very easy to understand, very easy to communicate system where there was constant repetition of the same thing, over and over again, taught in a very straight-forward way. And the techniques were geared toward what the players could do, what their skill sets were, and the plans were constructed around the players and what they could do.

“Rex’s defense is just the opposite. It is not straight forward. It’s exceedingly complex. There is no carry over learning from one week to the next. There’s exceedingly complex language. There are exceedingly complex checks that have to be made at the line of scrimmage. There is a guy designated to make those checks. It was” linebacker “Ray Lewis in Baltimore and it was” safety “Jimmy Leonhard with the Jets, who literally could not put one foot in front of the other at the end of his career.

“I remember asking one of the Jets’ coaches during the offseason, ‘How in God’s name can you put Jimmy Leonhard on the field?’ He said, ‘No one else can translate the defense, no one else can get everybody lined up.’”
http://bit.ly/1OjezEA

What makes this article brilliant is that it manages the to make Polian the Savior look as obnoxious and egotistical as it does the entire Bills organization look incompetent.

I'd say Polian and Rex deserve each other but I'd be shocked if they would coexist for so much as a week if the former came on board. But it might possibly be the best week ever.
 
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