2015-2016 NC Hoops: Turning the Paige
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i'm not watching either, Pitt is on fire, Plumlee got fouls early on so we aren't getting any rebounds, and we're shooting poorly. If any 1 of those 3 weren't happening it would probably be close, but with all 3 it's a mess. Ah well, we are what we are right now unless Jefferson comes back.
i'm not watching either, Pitt is on fire, Plumlee got fouls early on so we aren't getting any rebounds, and we're shooting poorly. If any 1 of those 3 weren't happening it would probably be close, but with all 3 it's a mess. Ah well, we are what we are right now unless Jefferson comes back.
It's absurd. Who the hell cares about watching Virginia play a team that doesn't exist this year?
I'm personally happy about it because my son can watch the first half, but it's bizarre.
I'm personally happy about it because my son can watch the first half, but it's bizarre.
There's the NBA showcase game on ABC at 8:30. Crappy game this week but don't want direct competition.
I'm not scared to admit that this is the most important (non-NCAA tournament) game for Carolina since Matt D. pretended to play the Four Corners against Duke in the ACC tournament.
Duke has been killing us in recruiting. Duke has been winning National Championships. Coach K has confirmed his place as the best college coach of all time. When I was growing up Carolina/Duke was a great rivalry, but, make no mistake, it was a Carolina/Duke rivalry. Now it is a Duke/Carolina rivalry.
Which brings me to tonight: We have a better team. Better players, better depth, all that. We need to win this game. We have no good road wins. All of our loses are "respectable" in that every team we lost to, with the possible exception of Northern Iowa when Paige was out [not that that matters based on his play this year sans Maryland], will make the tournament. The Duke loss at home was our worst loss because we had the game, Duke, already thin, was down a man and we were at home.
Duke will out-coach Carolina tonight and will come more prepared, focused and disciplined. That's just the reality now. Our only hope is that the depth wins out and we hit at least 30% from outside and Brice stays out of foul trouble. Not impossible asks, and we should win tonight. We should. I will consider it an upset if we lose, despite being at Duke. You cannot have Final Four aspirations and lose this game.
God, I am a wreck and, ostensibly, an adult.
Duke has been killing us in recruiting. Duke has been winning National Championships. Coach K has confirmed his place as the best college coach of all time. When I was growing up Carolina/Duke was a great rivalry, but, make no mistake, it was a Carolina/Duke rivalry. Now it is a Duke/Carolina rivalry.
Which brings me to tonight: We have a better team. Better players, better depth, all that. We need to win this game. We have no good road wins. All of our loses are "respectable" in that every team we lost to, with the possible exception of Northern Iowa when Paige was out [not that that matters based on his play this year sans Maryland], will make the tournament. The Duke loss at home was our worst loss because we had the game, Duke, already thin, was down a man and we were at home.
Duke will out-coach Carolina tonight and will come more prepared, focused and disciplined. That's just the reality now. Our only hope is that the depth wins out and we hit at least 30% from outside and Brice stays out of foul trouble. Not impossible asks, and we should win tonight. We should. I will consider it an upset if we lose, despite being at Duke. You cannot have Final Four aspirations and lose this game.
God, I am a wreck and, ostensibly, an adult.
Lol.
Good post.
After winning @ UNC (seriously tho how did that happen?!), and given one of our best players will probably end up redshirtting, and that we're looking at a 4-6 seed depending on how the next couple games go, with no real championship aspirations since we won a championship last year (and two players that would have been back left for the NBA because they got their natty), winning this game would be a fucking hoot.
Good post.
After winning @ UNC (seriously tho how did that happen?!), and given one of our best players will probably end up redshirtting, and that we're looking at a 4-6 seed depending on how the next couple games go, with no real championship aspirations since we won a championship last year (and two players that would have been back left for the NBA because they got their natty), winning this game would be a fucking hoot.
That too
@Drocca why did you consider the Doh 4 corners game important? Duke won both regular season games by like 30 that year and it was clear Duke was like a zillion times better that year. IIRC that was the 1 v 8 game in the ACC tourney and Duke never really pulled away and eventually won by about 12
@Drocca why did you consider the Doh 4 corners game important? Duke won both regular season games by like 30 that year and it was clear Duke was like a zillion times better that year. IIRC that was the 1 v 8 game in the ACC tourney and Duke never really pulled away and eventually won by about 12
That's exactly why I considered that game so important--Carolina had been totally surpassed and it looked like our program was in for some dark ages. Roy Williams saying no and leaving us with Doherty made me feel like we were about to become UCLA or Indiana. I thought that game was really, really important because if we won then some modicum of hope would be there and it would have been the defining moment of the season. I thought if we lost in the same manner we had the two other games to Duke then we could fire Doherty and move on (I had not taken into account, or maybe I didn't know yet [it was 10 years ago] the recruiting class Matt D. had coming in which would eventually, under Roy, lead us to a National Championship and so they would not have fired him. I remember in my mind thinking that if he lost big again they would fire him).
Instead, the worst happened: we lost but not by enough and in a manner that made some old-ass Tarheel boosters nostalgic.
If UNC could actually shoot they'd be a decent team. Duke is playing and zone and ignoring Paige
1. Thank God
2. Put whatever $$$ you have on the Blue Devils to win the whole thing next year. Did you see Luke Kennard? Have you seen Harry Giles? They may only lose 3 or 4 games all season.
2. Put whatever $$$ you have on the Blue Devils to win the whole thing next year. Did you see Luke Kennard? Have you seen Harry Giles? They may only lose 3 or 4 games all season.
This isn't Duke's best team ever obviously, but they are one of the toughest and will hopefully be remembered for it. UNC should have mashed them by 25 given the rebounding discrepancy, but they never ever went away. Paige, Pinson and Berry made all their free throws at the end and that was the difference.
Congrats to the Heels and you guys. Better team won. Thankful we notched one win against you this year. Feel like this could be a springboard to a title for you.
And yes, this Duke team will be remembered. That being said, man what a disappointment Ingram has been these last 2-3 weeks. Maybe he just totally hit the wall and ran out of gas but he hasn't been the same since basically saving Duke in the first UNC game.
Without Jefferson this Duke team is likely going home the first weekend of the NCAAs. Oh well. If Allen comes back, watch out.
And yes, this Duke team will be remembered. That being said, man what a disappointment Ingram has been these last 2-3 weeks. Maybe he just totally hit the wall and ran out of gas but he hasn't been the same since basically saving Duke in the first UNC game.
Without Jefferson this Duke team is likely going home the first weekend of the NCAAs. Oh well. If Allen comes back, watch out.
How far in advance was the venue picked? Was Maryland still in the ACC? God I hate that school. I use that term loosely.
I believe Maryland was still in the ACC since the link I found (http://www.wralsportsfan.com/d-c-to-host-2016-acc-men-s-basketball-tournament/13107792/) was from late 2013 and Maryland didn't leave until the 2014 season. Might be an effort to find middle ground for BC, Pitt, Syracuse, and ND, but Charlotte and Greensboro are still probably the two best places to have it.
This Duke team appears to be running out of gas at this point. I think they likely make the second weekend of the tourney, but they aren't setting themselves up with an easy road, and I will view anything past the Sweet Sixteen as gravy at this point.
This Duke team appears to be running out of gas at this point. I think they likely make the second weekend of the tourney, but they aren't setting themselves up with an easy road, and I will view anything past the Sweet Sixteen as gravy at this point.
Just to clarify for folks: T4W uses the term "school" loosely. Not the term hate.
So it'll be State vs. Duke. Have a feeling State pulls the upset. If not, Duke is going to get run out of the gym by Notre Dame. UNC-ND has a chance to be a great semifinal though.
I mean, it is reality. If they play back to back days, with 6.5 guys, against a team that has basically owned us the last two years (3 wins in 4 meetings)... it is a recipe for a blowout.
This Duke team is tough, and resilient, so they would likely find a way to play ND tight. But they are not built to make a run in the ACC tournament.
This Duke team is tough, and resilient, so they would likely find a way to play ND tight. But they are not built to make a run in the ACC tournament.
NC State is awful (my post above was a joke about them playing multiple play-in games). Duke will not lose to NC State.
Ah, well played. Hope you are right.
Perhaps Ingram will decide to show up this week.
Edit: since the miracle win @ UNC
33% FG
36% 3FG
13.2 PPG
6.6 RPG
1.6 APG
0.8 BPG
1.2 SPG
1.8 fouls
3.4 turnovers
blech
Perhaps Ingram will decide to show up this week.
Edit: since the miracle win @ UNC
33% FG
36% 3FG
13.2 PPG
6.6 RPG
1.6 APG
0.8 BPG
1.2 SPG
1.8 fouls
3.4 turnovers
blech
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I realized it's worked out well in the past, but is there any reason for Coach Krzyzewski to keep such a short bench in the face of such a competitive disadvantage? I mean, Jefferson going down sucks, but there still have to be at least 10 scholarship players left, all highly recruited and well thought of players coming out of high school. Why handicap yourself by keeping the rotation so tight?
Actually, they only have 10 scholarship players total this year, with Obi and Vrankovic not really ready for prime time. So it really is down to 7 guys, with Jeter not ready to play significant minutes either. I would have loved to see some other guys get minutes, but I tend to defer to K in his assessment of when players are ready to contribute. Guy has been right more often than not.
This team is not built for a 4-game run in the ACC Tournament. I think they have a chance to beat ND today, but even if they do, I don't think they have the legs to even keep it close against UNC on Friday.
This team is not built for a 4-game run in the ACC Tournament. I think they have a chance to beat ND today, but even if they do, I don't think they have the legs to even keep it close against UNC on Friday.
Um...you do realize that being a program that has players leave early for the NBA is exactly how you get depth problems, right?
That first half Carolina just played was gorgeous, particularly on the defensive end. Would love to see them put another half like that together to finish Notre Dame which has been a pain in our ass.
That first half Carolina just played was gorgeous, particularly on the defensive end. Would love to see them put another half like that together to finish Notre Dame which has been a pain in our ass.
Umm, Coach K knew that every single one of those recent departures were happening before they stepped on campus, right? Maybe Tyus Jones surprised him but this is a constant theme.
Not sure if I should be pissed at ND for their no show or thankful Duke isn't getting killed here
That was the best defense I've seen Carolina play in a LONG time. If Paige has actually found his shooting touch, this team could make a very deep run in the tourney.
I think last night was what we all envisioned for this team once Paige came back from injury. Six legitimate scoring options on the roster, a couple nice role players in Pinson and Britt who can handle the ball, play strong D, find an open man and occasionally make a shot and five minutes of heartburn when either James or Maye are on the court.