2014 Post Draft - News, Signings & Information
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17th-rounder Jeremy Rivera is with the Spinners and in uniform. Credit to SoxProspects poster soxfanatic for the find.
The Sox have now signed 16 of their first 21 picks.
The Sox have now signed 16 of their first 21 picks.
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB · 4m
5th-rder Josh Ockimey, @RedSox agree on $450k bonus (pick 164 value = $282,800).
5th-rder Josh Ockimey, @RedSox agree on $450k bonus (pick 164 value = $282,800).
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo 25 sec. Vertaling weergeven
#RedSox have agreement now with 6th-rounder (194) Danny Mars. He gets slot value of $211.8K. www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/9/5793788/2014-mlb-draft-draft-signings-tracker …
#RedSox have agreement now with 6th-rounder (194) Danny Mars. He gets slot value of $211.8K. www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/9/5793788/2014-mlb-draft-draft-signings-tracker …
I've added a cap tracking chart to the end of the opening post, which I'll update as information flows in. Here's where things stand based on what we know:
DRAFT CAP UPDATE (6/12, 5 pm)
[tablegrid=]# of Confirmed Signings 18 # of Confirmed Bonuses 5 Total Slot Value of Signings $2,365,300 Actual Bonuses Paid to Signings $2,664,500 Net +/- Relative to Signed Slots $239,200 Net % Relative to Signed Slots 10.11% Net % Relative to Total Cap 3.75% Projected Tax on Current Overage $179,400 Projected Loss of Draft Picks None Remaining Cap Space $3,708,800
DRAFT CAP UPDATE (6/12, 5 pm)
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I enjoyed this Twitter exchange #naivete:
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1h
For everyone asking about their favorite team's 1st-rder: I expect them all to sign. Most of them agreed to $ before the @MLBDraft.
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1h
Sure, but doesn't mean that anyone follows them. @AstrosCounty: isn't that, you know, against the rules? @MLBDraft
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1h
For everyone asking about their favorite team's 1st-rder: I expect them all to sign. Most of them agreed to $ before the @MLBDraft.
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 1h
Sure, but doesn't mean that anyone follows them. @AstrosCounty: isn't that, you know, against the rules? @MLBDraft
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo
#RedSox have 5th, 6th rounders done. 3rd rdr Cosart, 4th rdr McAvoy, 7th rdr Reilly said to be close as well.
#RedSox have 5th, 6th rounders done. 3rd rdr Cosart, 4th rdr McAvoy, 7th rdr Reilly said to be close as well.
From Matt Langone of the Lowell Sun:
Matt Langone @MattLangone · 21h
OF Andres Torres, who batted leadoff and had 43 doubles for the 2010 World Series champ Giants, will start the season in Lowell on Friday.
Matt Langone @MattLangone · 20h
Torres is 36. His godson, SS Jeremy Rivera [Sox' 17th-round draft pick], will also start the season with the Spinners
Matt Langone @MattLangone · 21h
OF Andres Torres, who batted leadoff and had 43 doubles for the 2010 World Series champ Giants, will start the season in Lowell on Friday.
Matt Langone @MattLangone · 20h
Torres is 36. His godson, SS Jeremy Rivera [Sox' 17th-round draft pick], will also start the season with the Spinners
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 2m
#RedSox in agreement with 8th-rdr. Ben Moore for slot value ($152,700). http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/9/5793788/2014-mlb-draft-draft-signings-tracker …
#RedSox in agreement with 8th-rdr. Ben Moore for slot value ($152,700). http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/6/9/5793788/2014-mlb-draft-draft-signings-tracker …
RE: David Peterson-
Just because he is playing for the Medford Rogues does not mean he wont sign, the liklihood is not that great but he probably isn't signing for whatever the slot or allotment is in the late 20th round. He is a solid top 50-100 player for this draft. He was injured (broken leg) just before the HS season and only got two starts and three relief appearances in HS ball. Front office wants a little better chance to look at him perhaps; also, I believe the signing deadline is 7/18 which allows few weeks for additional looks before anything happens. The longer it drags out the less likely IMO; I would not completely shut the door on this one yet. All said he looked very good for getting off the plane a few hours before.
Just because he is playing for the Medford Rogues does not mean he wont sign, the liklihood is not that great but he probably isn't signing for whatever the slot or allotment is in the late 20th round. He is a solid top 50-100 player for this draft. He was injured (broken leg) just before the HS season and only got two starts and three relief appearances in HS ball. Front office wants a little better chance to look at him perhaps; also, I believe the signing deadline is 7/18 which allows few weeks for additional looks before anything happens. The longer it drags out the less likely IMO; I would not completely shut the door on this one yet. All said he looked very good for getting off the plane a few hours before.
We can always revise the chart if both he and the Sox surprise us by coming to terms. But the higher-than-projected bonus to Ockimey is going to make it that much harder for the Sox to come up with the coin to satisfy Peterson's demands. All the signs I'm seeing are pointing him to college.
And yeah, there's absolutely zero chance he signs for the $100,000 standard allotment (rounds 11-40). I'd be stunned if he agreed for anything less than the $440k the Sox paid 30th-rounder Nick Longhi last year. As you said, Peterson's a top 100 player. Longhi barely snuck into the BA Top 300 (#296).
The signing deadline being 7/18 is actually an acceleration of the process. It gives teams (and draftees) less time than they've been accustomed to. And it's not just a matter of the Sox waiting to check him out in summer ball for a few weeks -- they'd also have to make sure they have enough cap space (or an affordable-enough overage) to pay the kid. Remember, every dollar over $100k for that slot will count against their cap. If they match Longhi's bonus, that's another $340k on top of the roughly $300k they're already over slot on the 5 picks whose bonuses have been announced/reported. And they haven't signed Chavis yet.
So if they to play the waiting game with a kid with a broken leg, they'd be shooting themselves in the ass by hindering negotiations with the 20 or so other picks who remain unsigned.
And yeah, there's absolutely zero chance he signs for the $100,000 standard allotment (rounds 11-40). I'd be stunned if he agreed for anything less than the $440k the Sox paid 30th-rounder Nick Longhi last year. As you said, Peterson's a top 100 player. Longhi barely snuck into the BA Top 300 (#296).
The signing deadline being 7/18 is actually an acceleration of the process. It gives teams (and draftees) less time than they've been accustomed to. And it's not just a matter of the Sox waiting to check him out in summer ball for a few weeks -- they'd also have to make sure they have enough cap space (or an affordable-enough overage) to pay the kid. Remember, every dollar over $100k for that slot will count against their cap. If they match Longhi's bonus, that's another $340k on top of the roughly $300k they're already over slot on the 5 picks whose bonuses have been announced/reported. And they haven't signed Chavis yet.
So if they to play the waiting game with a kid with a broken leg, they'd be shooting themselves in the ass by hindering negotiations with the 20 or so other picks who remain unsigned.
By my calculations, the Net $ relative to slot calculation on the first page is off by $60,000. I'm not sure where the error comes from, but they are a combined $317,200 overslot on Kemp and Ockimey and $78,000 under on Kopech, which leaves them $239,200 over, not $299,200 over.
Crap. On my Excel spreadsheet I typo'd his slot figure (222,800 instead of 282,800).
Thanks for the heads-up.
Thanks for the heads-up.
From 29th rounder Josh Pennington, something for those of you in Atlantic City/South Jersey to check out:
JP @J_Penns5
Everyone tune into @nbc40news tonight around 6:10 and 11:20 to watch my interview pertaining to the draft.
JP @J_Penns5
Everyone tune into @nbc40news tonight around 6:10 and 11:20 to watch my interview pertaining to the draft.
RT @alexspeier: Sox have signed 13th rounder Chandler Shepherd, RHP out of Kentucky, and 18th rder Jordan Betts, 3B from Duke.
Alex Speier @alexspeier 55s
Sox have signed 13th rounder Chandler Shepherd, RHP out of Kentucky, and 18th rder Jordan Betts, 3B from Duke. Both signed for <$100K.
Alex Speier @alexspeier 55s
Sox have signed 13th rounder Chandler Shepherd, RHP out of Kentucky, and 18th rder Jordan Betts, 3B from Duke. Both signed for <$100K.
Sam Travis @samtrav6 · 50m
Yup that's it.. I'm standing on top of the Green Monster
K.O. pech @MichaelKopech5 1h
Currently falling in love pic.twitter.com/atnK2uUlvc
Yup that's it.. I'm standing on top of the Green Monster
K.O. pech @MichaelKopech5 1h
Currently falling in love pic.twitter.com/atnK2uUlvc
Alex Speier @alexspeier 46m
Deals with Kopech and Travis aren't finalized (pending standard physicals background checks), but could be soon
Deals with Kopech and Travis aren't finalized (pending standard physicals background checks), but could be soon
NESN's Gary Striewski interviews Michael Kopech (L) and Kevin McAvoy ( R). Both officially signed today. No further word on McAvoy's bonus.
A vague tweet from the Sox' 35th rounder. Not sure if it means he's now with the Sox (a surprising outcome if true), or if he's finalized his USF commitment. Or if he's just screwing with us.
Puskarich's previous tweet makes me think he means college.
https://twitter.com/rossipooh14/status/477913358339817472
https://twitter.com/rossipooh14/status/477913358339817472
@MLBDraft: 58 of top 100 signed; 19 at pick value, 18 under, 21 over. Total $83,791,900; $1,249,000 < combined slot value:
That tweet references this chart, which doesn't show any bonuses for Sox picks Michael Kopech or Sam Travis. We've seen disparate reports on what Kopech signed for, while the latter has said he'll forego his college senior season and ink a deal.
That tweet references this chart, which doesn't show any bonuses for Sox picks Michael Kopech or Sam Travis. We've seen disparate reports on what Kopech signed for, while the latter has said he'll forego his college senior season and ink a deal.
Second rounder Sam Travis sign for slot according to Jim Callis. https://mobile.twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/478581266262929408
Thanks for that. Here's the text of that, for the record:
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB · 3h
2nd-rder Sam Travis signs w/@RedSox for $846,800 (full pick 67 value). Indiana 1B w/bat speed, strength, K zone knowledge.
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB · 3h
2nd-rder Sam Travis signs w/@RedSox for $846,800 (full pick 67 value). Indiana 1B w/bat speed, strength, K zone knowledge.
Louisville loses to Texas 4-1, ending their season. Sox' 10th-rounder Cole Sturgeon went 0-for-4 with an RBI today and 1-for-9 in both the Cardinals' CWS losses.
He'll now have 32 days before the July 18 signing deadline to ink a deal with the Sox.
He'll now have 32 days before the July 18 signing deadline to ink a deal with the Sox.
Ryan Hannable @RyanHannable 8m
Source: Red Sox first-round pick (No. 26 overall) Michael Chavis and the club have agreed to terms for the slot value of $1,870,500.
Source: Red Sox first-round pick (No. 26 overall) Michael Chavis and the club have agreed to terms for the slot value of $1,870,500.
OptimusPapi said:
No worries at all. Just wanted to be sure readers could see what the link said without having to click on it.
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soxhop411 said:
What a great moment to be a father.
Michael P. Kopech @KopechDad · 35m It's official! @MichaelKopech5 signs with the Boston Red Sox! pic.twitter.com/zUjnBD2xQZ
- @KopechDad @RebelMouse http://rbl.ms/1lu0Rjw
Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 3s
Sox have saved $10,800 vs pool. @ryanhannable: @RedSox 1st-rd pick (No. 26) Michael Chavis has agreed for slot value of $1,870,500 @MLBDraft
Sox have saved $10,800 vs pool. @ryanhannable: @RedSox 1st-rd pick (No. 26) Michael Chavis has agreed for slot value of $1,870,500 @MLBDraft
Yup, but that's only on the first 10 rounds. They're still over due to 15th-rounder Kemp signing for $150k over slot.
Here's the latest cap review from the opening post. FWIW, the net % relative to signed slots for all rounds is slightly lower than 2.6%. We know the bonuses for Betts & Shepherd were each less than $100,000, but we don't have exact amounts. So to stay on the conservative side, I just left them at $100,000 for calculating it since any sub-slot savings on picks 11 thru 40 doesn't get added back to their cap.
DRAFT CAP UPDATE (6/16, 7:15 pm)
[tablegrid=]# of Confirmed Signings 20 # of Confirmed Bonuses 10 Days Until Signing Deadline 32 Total Slot Value of Signings (1st ten rounds) $4,982,600 Actual Bonuses Paid to Signings (1st ten rounds) $5,031,800 Net +/- in Rounds 1 thru 10 -$10,800 Net +/- in Rounds 11 thru 40 $150,000 Net +/- Overall $139,200 Net % Relativte to Signed Slots (1st ten rounds) -0.2% Net % Relative to Signed Slots (all rounds) 2.6% Net % Relative to Total Cap ($6,373,300) 2.18% Projected Tax on Current Overage $104,400 Projected Loss of Draft Picks None Remaining Cap Space $1,191,500 Remaining Budget Assuming 5% Spending Above Cap $1,510,165
Here's the latest cap review from the opening post. FWIW, the net % relative to signed slots for all rounds is slightly lower than 2.6%. We know the bonuses for Betts & Shepherd were each less than $100,000, but we don't have exact amounts. So to stay on the conservative side, I just left them at $100,000 for calculating it since any sub-slot savings on picks 11 thru 40 doesn't get added back to their cap.
DRAFT CAP UPDATE (6/16, 7:15 pm)
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14th rounder Jordan Procyshen has not officially signed, but he does have an agreement in place, just waiting to formally sign the papers. No hint of amount however. Sounds like he had been scouted by John Pyle (Ohio Valley area scout) while playing in Kentucky for at least a few months, and the Sox did their homework on him before selecting him. He will be assigned to Lowell. Here's an interview he did on a local radio station this morning: http://okotoksonline.com/images/stories/audio/jordanjune16.mp3
mabrowndog said:
Mission accomplished.
Devon Fisher @D_Fisher6 2m
#StateChamps pic.twitter.com/X7f8t04IBN
Congrats to the kid. If my kid's school couldn't win it (they got bounced by McLean, which is the team Western Branch beat, in the early rounds) I'm glad it's a Sox draftee who did.
So the Sox are only 3 players away from having all of their first 20 picks signed, a quick glance at the last couple of years shows that they've gone 18 or so for 20 in the past. What are the odds on these guys signing?
edit: admitedly hasn't followed the draft much until this year's timely job change made it easier
edit: admitedly hasn't followed the draft much until this year's timely job change made it easier
In all likelihood they had an agreement in place with Steen (9th Rd), or at least a ballpark understanding of what it would take to sign him. Even so, it's not uncommon for high schoolers to try to leverage some extra coin by playing hard to get.
Sturgeon (10th Rd) just had his team get bounced from the College World Series, so I'd be surprised if he didn't sign within a week.
Other than a comment from his college coach that he thinks he'll turn pro, there hasn't been a peep anywhere about Gunn (16th). He's got another year at Arkansas if he wants it.
Sturgeon (10th Rd) just had his team get bounced from the College World Series, so I'd be surprised if he didn't sign within a week.
Other than a comment from his college coach that he thinks he'll turn pro, there hasn't been a peep anywhere about Gunn (16th). He's got another year at Arkansas if he wants it.
Per Alex Speier, the Sox have officially announced the signings of a number of the picks noted in the opening post. They include a couple of players that had been reported as reaching agreement: 31st-rounder Alex McKeon and 37th-rounder Hector Lorenzana. The only new names are 23-rounder Derek Miller and 38th-rounder Brandon Show.
Others confirmed as signing: Michael Kopech (1st Supp), Sam Travis (2nd), Chandler Shepherd (13th), Jordan Betts (18th) & Kuehl McEachern (34th).
Deals agreed to pending physicals and other procedural crap: Michael Chavis (1st), Jake Cosart (3rd), Kevin McAvoy (4th), Josh Ockimey (5th), Danny Mars (6th), Reed Reilly (7th), Ben Moore (8th), and the aforementioned Cole Sturgeon (10th).
The latter grouping explains why a number of those draftees are already either in Lowell or Fort Myers, with those assigned to the Spinners already donning uniforms for media day.
Others confirmed as signing: Michael Kopech (1st Supp), Sam Travis (2nd), Chandler Shepherd (13th), Jordan Betts (18th) & Kuehl McEachern (34th).
Deals agreed to pending physicals and other procedural crap: Michael Chavis (1st), Jake Cosart (3rd), Kevin McAvoy (4th), Josh Ockimey (5th), Danny Mars (6th), Reed Reilly (7th), Ben Moore (8th), and the aforementioned Cole Sturgeon (10th).
The latter grouping explains why a number of those draftees are already either in Lowell or Fort Myers, with those assigned to the Spinners already donning uniforms for media day.
mabrowndog said:
Here's the post with the comment:
mabrowndog said:
Beeks will be officially signing with the Sox shortly. And now, Eric Fisher has signed (with the Marlins). From that article:
Considering Coach Van Horn is 2-for-3, I'll go ahead and put this one in the "reported signings" column.
Not a Sox player, but it's no secret he's a kid I know real well. Grant Holmes signs with Dodgers. 2.5m and 500k over slot.