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Discussion in 'Wait, Who???' started by mascho, May 10, 2014.
New day, new thread. Let's find some Needle(s) in the haystacks of Westeros.
RB - probably my favorites left are Florida State's James Wilder (a huge dude), Arizona State's Marion Grice (more of a Vereen-type), and RO's binkie Lorenzo Taliaferro from Coastal Carolina. Also have to be intrigued with what Belichick would do with a guy like De'Anthony Thomas.
TE - Gator Hoskins from Marshall is my guy as more of a pure H-back type. Joe Don Duncan from Dixie State is more of a pure TE, though he's got injury and age issues.
WR - so much talent left. For pure X types, there Clemon's Martavis Bryant, Rutgers' Brandon Coleman, and Wisconsin's Jared Abbrederis. Kevin Norwood from Alabama seems like the kind of guy they've had success with - a versatile inside/outside guy who isn't going to wow with size or athleticism but does a lot of things right.
OL - Ohio State's Corey Linsley got some late pub as maybe the #4 C prospect. Undersized but strong. John Urschel from Penn State is super-smart and could play G or C. Oklahoma's Gabe Ikard is another Pats-y C option. Dakota Dozier from Furman, Wesley Johnson from Vanderbilt, and Garrett Scott from Marshall are guys who played tackle in college but project better inside in the pros. A pure OT is a luxury, but at this point McGill's Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff is a fascinating option.
DL - DaQuan Jones from Penn State is a versatile guy that's made sense from the beginning. There are some good 3-4 DE / 4-3 DT options in Virginia's Brent Urban and Oregon's Taylor Hart.
ER - James Gayle from Virginia Tech is an interesting under-the-radar guy. Cassius Marsh of UCLA had a great 3-cone at the Combine. I like Howard Jones from Liberty late - he's an undersized small-school guy but a sick athlete (40.5" vert led ERs at the Combine). And pulling for Mizzou's Michael Sam to get drafted.
LB - Florida State's duo of Telvin Smith and Christian Jones might be good sub LB options. UCLA's Jordan Zumwalt and Michigan State's Max Bullough are more Spikes replacements but sound pretty Pats-y.
CB - Pierre Desir from Lindenwood is still out there. I really like Duke's Ross Cockrell's attitude. Then we have OttoC's client, 6'3" dark horse Courtney Bridget from Hampton.
S - Daniel Sorensen from BYU ran the best 3-cone. USC's Dion Bailey is probably the highest-rated big SS left. Not a strong pool, though it's also tough to evaluate S.
K - Rice's Chris Boswell, of course.
Let's take another QB. Just to be safe.
They do like to double dip
Nice rundown SN. There are a lot of guys I like listed above. Duvernay-Tardiff is a binky of mine. I've read scouting reports saying that he may be better suited to move inside to OG due to short arms, so he may not necessarily be a pure OT option. From the tape I watched, he looks to be a mauler, finishing his blocks through the whistle, often times driving his guy way off the line of scrimmage. He's also a med student, so he's smart, which BB should appreciate. He's got limited experience due to his schooling, but he's put that on hold so he can focus on football. I think he's got intriguing upside.
I don't know if I'd use one of our 4ths on him, but I'm not sure he'll last until the 6th.
4th Round Predictions:
105. OL- David Yankey, STAN or Dakota Dozier, Furman
130. S- Brock Vereen, MINN or Dion Bailey, USC
140. DE- Jeoffrey Pagan, BAMA or Brent Urban, UVA
Caraun Reid is another one I'd add to the list.... He's a good fit, plus will give Develin somebody to do crossword puzzles with
From ESPN Insider, Scout.com's highest-ranked remaining players.
-- The top 57 have already been selected.
-- The highest grade for any player still on the board is 79 (Bruce Ellington, WR, S. Carolina).
-- The lowest-graded player drafted so far: Richard Rogers, TE, California, ranked 221st with a grade of 44. Picked by the Packers in the 3rd round, #98 overall.
-- Underclassmen denoted by asterisk (*)
[tablegrid=]NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE RANK Bruce Ellington* WR 5'9⅜" 197 South Carolina 79 58 AJ McCarron QB 6'3¼" 220 Alabama 78 60 Martavis Bryant* WR 6'3¾" 211 Clemson 76 66 Brent Urban DT 6'6⅝" 295 Virginia 76 67 Tom Savage QB 6'3⅞" 228 Pittsburgh 75 68 Bashaud Breeland CB 5'11⅜" 197 Clemson 75 70 Keith McGill CB 6'3⅜" 211 Utah 73 72 Pierre Desir CB 6'1" 198 Lindenwood 72 75 Devonta Freeman* RB 5'8¼" 206 Florida State 71 77 Daquan Jones DT 6'3¾" 322 Penn State 71 78 Caraun Reid DT 6'2⅛" 302 Princeton 70 84 Jaylen Watkins CB 5'11½" 194 Florida 70 85 Ed Stinson DE 6'3¼" 287 Alabama 69 87 Aaron Colvin CB 5'11⅜" 177 Oklahoma 69 88 Brandon Coleman WR 6'6" 225 Rutgers 69 89 Russell Bodine* OC 6'3⅛" 310 North Carolina 69 90 Andre Williams RB 5'11⅜" 230 Boston College 69 93 Telvin Smith OLB 6'3" 218 Florida State 68 94 Dontae Johnson CB 6'2⅛" 200 North Carolina State 68 97 Brock Vereen S 5'11⅝" 199 Minnesota 67 100 Marcus Roberson CB 6'0¼" 191 Florida 67 101 Antonio Richardson OT 6'5¾" 336 Tennessee 67 102 Robert Herron WR 5'9⅛" 193 Wyoming 67 103 Adrian Hubbard OLB 6'6" 257 Alabama 67 104 John Urschel OG 6'3" 313 Penn State 67 105 Jackson Jeffcoat DE 6'3" 247 Texas 67 106 Shamar Stephen DT 6'4⅞" 309 Connecticut 67 107 Marqueston Huff CB 5'11⅛" 196 Wyoming 66 108 Kevin Norwood WR 6'2" 198 Alabama 66 109 Justin Ellis DT 6'1½" 334 Louisiana Tech 66 110 Christian Jones OLB 6'3⅛" 240 Florida State 66 111 Chris Smith DE 6'1" 266 Arkansas 65 112 De'Anthony Thomas* RB 5'8⅝" 174 Oregon 65 114 Antone Exum CB 5'11⅝" 213 Virginia Tech 65 115 Kelcy Quarles* DT 6'3¾" 297 South Carolina 65 116 Taylor Hart DE 6'6⅛" 281 Oregon 64 117 Cyril Richardson OG 6'4¾" 329 Baylor 64 118 Carl Bradford OLB 6'0¾" 250 Arizona State 64 119 Jeoffrey Pagan DE 6'3½" 310 Alabama 63 120 David Fales QB 6'1⅝" 212 San Jose State 63 121 Aaron Murray QB 6'0½" 207 Georgia 62 122 Dan McCullers DT 6'6¾" 352 Tennessee 62 123 Vic Hampton* CB 5'9" 197 South Carolina 61 124 Logan Thomas QB 6'6⅛" 248 Virginia Tech 61 126 Craig Loston S 6'0⅝" 217 LSU 61 128 Ka'Deem Carey* RB 5'9⅜" 207 Arizona 61 130 Jalen Saunders WR 5'8⅞" 165 Oklahoma 61 131 Zach Mettenberger QB 6'4⅞" 224 LSU 60 132 Cameron Fleming OT 6'4⅞" 323 Stanford 60 134 Zach Kerr DT 6'1⅜" 326 Delaware 60 135 Nevin Lawson CB 5'9½" 190 Utah State 60 136 Ross Cockrell CB 6'0" 191 Duke 59 138 James Gayle DE 6'3¾" 259 Virginia Tech 59 139 Storm Johnson* RB 5'11⅝" 209 UCF 59 140 David Yankey OG 6'5⅝" 315 Stanford 59 141 Anthony Johnson* DT 6'2½" 308 LSU 59 142 Marcel Jensen TE 6'5¾" 259 Fresno State 59 143 Jordie Tripp OLB 6'2¾" 234 Montana 58 145 Mike Davis WR 6'0" 197 Texas 58 147 Lache Seastrunk* RB 5'9½" 201 Baylor 58 148 Lamin Barrow OLB 6'1⅜" 237 LSU 57 150 Tre Boston S 5'11⅝" 204 North Carolina 57 151 Shaq Evans WR 6'1¼" 213 UCLA 57 152 Tyler Gaffney RB 5'11½" 220 Stanford 56 153 Ahmad Dixon S 6'0" 212 Baylor 56 155 Terrance Mitchell CB 5'11⅛" 192 Oregon 55 156 Shayne Skov ILB 6'2¼" 245 Stanford 55 157 Kadeem Edwards OG 6'4¼" 313 Tennessee State 55 158 Bene' Benwikere CB 5'10¾" 195 San Jose State 54 160 [/tablegrid]
EDIT - I can only get about half the list to display properly without it getting all screwed up. Fuck ProBoards and its pathetic formatting limitations.
The Panthers GM is doing the rest of the draft from Worcester via Skype. Seriously.
I think one of his kids is graduating today.
I sincerely hope we get Storm.
Looking forward to see what Seattle does with three 4th round picks
I trade #105 for a 3rd and 6th next year and then use the remaining 6, in some order, on OL, TE, DL, LB and then best available.
Mobile. Have the Pats traded up for McCarron yet?
Yup. I'm surprised the Panthers are being so accommodating, but definitely a cool move on their part.
I like Watkins for Philly. He's versatile and I thought he'd go in the 2nd-3rd round. He's a solid player.
Totally down for Yankey or Dozier here
A couple of solid DB's off the board early. I like Watkins and Breeland a lot. Still a few others I like (Desir, McGill, Exum, Roberson)
Exum has position flexibility too.
Ellison would be good for NYJ here...
And who knew Devonta Freeman likes shirts that look like hospital gowns.
Saunders. 5'8" 165. Slot pick
Pats pick is in: Bryan Stork, C
Pick is in
It's a center! Yay!
Well, OK. Stork can play a few positions.
Finally a Wendell replacement
Really liked Stork out of college.
Everyone thought the Stork here had brain damage!
Good pick. You gotta protect Garoppolo.
Pats pick Bryan Stork, C, Florida State.
New England clearly stockpiling players from The U's biggest rivals for Wilfork to talk trash to.
Whew. C with G flexibility, big time program/experience/QB
Field Yates @FieldYates 3s
Patriots add Florida State C Bryan Stork, 2013 Rimington Award winner, which is given to the best center in college football.
Stork...fine. Versatile, rated well.
Now Van Der Camp
Edit: I kind of preferred Bodine... But close enough
This I like.
WELL WHAT THE HELL WE S'POSED TO DO, YOU MO-RON??
Niners grab WR Ellington from S.C.
I hate you for making this joke before I could.
damn Bruce Ellington. taken
Wow, the 49ers have had a draft.
I hope Mel Kiper gives the Niners draft an A+ because that will be the kiss of death.
You guys are missing the plan here...the new ultra-jumbo set!
The trashing of AJ McCarron in full swing on ESPN. I'm good with that.
What - no WTFs that usually follow BB picks!? Must be a very safe pick. Like the versatility and size, but also wondering how much losing Scarnesechia will hurt his and other OL draftee development
When did C become OC? Is there another center position that I'm unaware of?
Seattle 3 for 3 in guys I wasn't even close to expecting.
Cassius Marsh for some depth at LEO.
edit: watching the Seahawks war room and Pete can't sit still.
edit2: Hawks calling in pick 111 right now.
edit3: No, it's yet another trade, to Cincy this time. They might end up with the most picks in this draft at the rate they are going.
Did they trade the pick?
Getting more late round flyers?