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2/27 vs PORTLAND - I'm not gonna watch

Discussion in '2018 Celtics Game Threads' started by OnWisc, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. radsoxfan

    radsoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    Marcus smart does so many good things but wow is he capable of incredible idiocy out there
     
  2. Light-Tower-Power

    Light-Tower-Power Member SoSH Member

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    I still unequivocally love Marcus Smart but that was so utterly brain dead I can’t even fathom what he was thinking.
     
  3. bigq

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  4. The Social Chair

    The Social Chair Member SoSH Member

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    Brad doesn't like to coach shot selection. He thinks it messes with players confidence. It's the dumbest Brad Stevens thing.
     
  5. bankshot1

    bankshot1 Member SoSH Member

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  6. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    Jaylen is the only player on this team that Brad has ever disciplined and as a result he’s the only guy who doesn’t regularly take dumbfuck shots every game like the one Smart just blew the game with. Makes ya think.
     
  7. Red Averages

    Red Averages owes you $50 SoSH Member

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    This isn’t on Smart, bad shot aside, the offense stopped moving when Kyrie came back with 6 min left and he got burned several times on D.
     
  8. mikeot

    mikeot Member SoSH Member

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    Oh Marcus
     
  9. Obscure Name

    Obscure Name Member SoSH Member

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  10. shawnrbu

    shawnrbu Member SoSH Member

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    Wasted 13 seconds!!
     
  11. Lazy vs Crazy

    Lazy vs Crazy Member SoSH Member

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    Why wait so long to foul?????
     
  12. Carmine Hose

    Carmine Hose Member SoSH Member

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    Let it run down to 12 seconds, then foul. Brulliant
     
  13. Al Zarilla

    Al Zarilla Member SoSH Member

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    Fucking Lillard Cousy
     
  14. Obscure Name

    Obscure Name Member SoSH Member

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    At least they remembered to foul this time.
     
  15. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    Because they’re a dumb team.
     
  16. Light-Tower-Power

    Light-Tower-Power Member SoSH Member

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    I see letting Marcus have a chance at a steal but foul should’ve come earlier.
     
  17. Obscure Name

    Obscure Name Member SoSH Member

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  18. Light-Tower-Power

    Light-Tower-Power Member SoSH Member

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    Boo’d off the court.
     
  19. ifmanis5

    ifmanis5 Member SoSH Member

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    4 in a row.
     
  20. shawnrbu

    shawnrbu Member SoSH Member

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    1-10 when scoring 102 or less.
     
  21. LesterFan

    LesterFan Member SoSH Member

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    2-6 since the Lakers bullshit
     
  22. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Another brutal loss
     
  23. Lazy vs Crazy

    Lazy vs Crazy Member SoSH Member

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    Free throws 10 to 20, 5 point loss, makes you think.
     
  24. Big John

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    It's all Rozier's fault.
     
  25. patinorange

    patinorange Member SoSH Member

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    As they should be.
     
  26. soxin6

    soxin6 Member SoSH Member

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    They deserved to be. This team is garbage.
     
  27. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    paging DOTB
     
  28. shawnrbu

    shawnrbu Member SoSH Member

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    If that game didn’t make you sick enough, don’t watch the ending of Heat/Warriors.
     
  29. Lazy vs Crazy

    Lazy vs Crazy Member SoSH Member

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    Hayward needs more than 3 shots.

    The "have two guys stand in the corner and not move" offense needs to end.
     
  30. Light-Tower-Power

    Light-Tower-Power Member SoSH Member

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    Portland was the more active team. The reason we don’t get calls isn’t because the refs hate us or Brad doesn’t speak up enough. Hard to get to the line when most of the offense is jumpshots.
     
  31. Jed Zeppelin

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    They have one big and he spends most of his time outside the paint. The lead ball handler spends most of his time avoiding contact to find daylight for a shot, often contorting his body in order to do so. The whole offense doesn't move, doesn't put defenders out of position or in unfavorable spots. They aren't built to get to the line.
     
  32. Light-Tower-Power

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    Notice how the team was wayyyy more active at both ends in the fourth when Kyrie was on the bench. Not making all their shots but a lot more active and energetic especially on defense.
     
  33. LesterFan

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    Win Friday or 10 game losing streak is a real possibility.
     
  34. Jed Zeppelin

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    Bulls beat the Grizzlies, so, there's that.
     
  35. chilidawg

    chilidawg Member SoSH Member

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    Couldn't agree more.
     
  36. chilidawg

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    But there were a number of egregious misses. Kyrie got flattened by Nurkic once, and Brown obviously held on a breakaway opportunity. I don't usually get into the ref bashing, but the Celtics definitely didn't get any help tonight.
     
  37. Bergs

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    That game was so bad it broke SoSh.
     
  38. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The Smart quick three was bad but they don't even sniff getting that close without him. He was the only player who could defend consistently all game. The Blazers exploited Horford huge tonight by getting him on Lillard who roasted him near the end. The only fix for that is trapping and more help defense. Unfortunately nobody on this team besides Smart and Horford has the ability to rotate consistently. The young guys got abused all night. TimeLord, bless him, was completely destroyed by Nurkic.

    Frankly, I am not sure what Stevens can do with this team. Only two of their starter as well as Brown and Baynes can defend consistently. If you can't get your other players to defend well, you are right and proper fucked.

    Oh and Stevens was yelling at the officials all night for those who complain about that. This isn't on Brad though he has a hand in it. HRB was right, as much as it pains me to say. The roster construction is flawed.
     
  39. bigq

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    I think he has a bad ankle. The promise he was showing pre All Star Break has waned and it seems to be injury related.
     
  40. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    word
     
  41. MyDaughterLovesTomGordon

    MyDaughterLovesTomGordon Member SoSH Member

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    Smart: “that’s a dumbass shot by me.”
     
  42. RedOctober3829

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    My feeling on this team has taken a 180 intbe last week or so. It’s not getting any better on the floor and it’s even worse off of it. There’s drama every day and constant chaos on the court. Egos have ruined this team.
     
  43. mostman

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    I’m starting to have cracks in my once solid love for Brad. This team is lost. And I think I’m ready to start blaming their coach.
     
  44. lars10

    lars10 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Brad can be blamed for playing Mamo for the ridiculous minutes he got tonite.. guy was a net negative on both sides of the floor.. and he doesn’t pass.
     
  45. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

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    By “Roster construction,” do we mean “Gordon Hayward?” It’s basically the 2017-18 team plus him.
     
  46. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    He really can't do much about making Morris or Irving play better defense. They are who they are. Brown is an improving defender but he still gets caught out of position often and opponents know this. Tatum has taken a step back on defense this year and his offense hasn't progressed either. Lastly, Hayward just doesn't have the quickness yet (or is injured again) to be a consistent defender.

    Rotations and playing time complaints are fine but if most of his key rotation players aren't able to defend competently, its not really on him. The young guys have to learn and Ainge has to staff the roster with other guys who are willing to sell out on the defensive end. Stevens had success with guys like that before in Crowder, Turner etc.
     
  47. DeJesus Built My Hotrod

    DeJesus Built My Hotrod Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The problem is that Morris is one of the guys who can score consistently when he is going good. The other issue for this team is that they really don't have scoring if Irving and Morris are struggling. Jaylen and Tatum are hit and miss, Horford is great in spots but they need early season Morris. Unfortunately, that seems to have been small sample size of above trend success.

    Edit: Adding the fact that Brown played 30 minutes to Morris' 29. Hayward got 27 and he was struggling on both ends of the court so he wasn't the answer. I mean, I guess you can make a case that Brown should have taken a few more minutes but again, he wasn't getting great looks either. Unless you want to give more minutes to Ojeleye or Wanamaker in lieu of Mook, which I don't think gets you a better result, I am not sure what Stevens did wrong with the minutes tonight.

    The Blazers chased the Celtics off the three point line pretty successfully and the C's couldn't convert on their open looks either. Make or miss...and they missed.
     
    #297 DeJesus Built My Hotrod, Feb 27, 2019
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  48. benhogan

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    It would, but its never going to happen.
     
  49. Jed Zeppelin

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    Yeah, the only time they remotely slowed any ball handler down was by sticking Smart on him and picking him up near half court. There's only so much you can do against a guy like Lillard, but every other attempt at defending him was entirely too lax. They submit to screens and switches way too easily (this is an issue going back to last year).

    I know that's the defense but in certain matchups it really roasts them. The idea is clear: Everyone is switchable! Wings! But in practice the opponent can easily get their guy on the most favorable matchup. Of course, not every screen setter is a 300 lb behemoth but I think the point stands in general that there are issues in both structure and personnel.

    Smart is usually the only guy out there who is actively defending while also playing in the team defense. Everyone else is just thinking switch switch switch and playing like they expect help in every single situation and it yanks the teeth out of the D. That they know they can switch is stopping them from playing as aggressive on D as they could be. My $.02
     
  50. Was (Not Wasdin)

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    That play at the end of the 3rd was brutal. Smart chasing Lillard, no one even gives a thought about trying to stop the ball and its too late, and Al is moving the wrong way when he tries to slide over.
     

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