12/9-10 Gamethread

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Lovren shouldn't have given DCL the opportunity to dive in the first place.

A lot of the blame for the draw has to be placed on Mané for a level of selfishness you don't often see out of this side. Not squaring that ball with Salah and Oxlade-Chamberlain looking at tap-ins is inexcusable

Agreed. Shocking decision by Mane
 

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To be perfectly clear, Liverpool shouldn't have let it come down to that, and anyone who reads this forum knows what I think of Lovren's decision making. I just don't think a team that had done literally nothing for 75 minutes should be rewarded with such a soft decision. If it was reversed, I'd smile and take the point, but would acknowledge that Liverpool absolutely stole it.
 

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Herrera throws Otamendi to the ground on a set piece, needless to say softer decisions have been given this... hour
 

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Strange seeing Man U park the bus at home v their fiercest rivals. I get that City are dictating play, and Man U miss Pogba, but i dunno if hoping to get joy on the counter is gonna get it done. A draw isn't much use to Man Utd. Weird kinda game.
 

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Scrappy goal, but they all count. Man U just aren't at the races. This could be the title right here. No way this City team spunks an 11 point lead. Jose needs a special half time team talk.
 

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I wonder if it's ever happened where a player commits a foul but the ref plays advantage, and then the player commits a second foul in the same passage of play, gets a yellow for each and is sent off.
 

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To be perfectly clear, Liverpool shouldn't have let it come down to that, and anyone who reads this forum knows what I think of Lovren's decision making. I just don't think a team that had done literally nothing for 75 minutes should be rewarded with such a soft decision. If it was reversed, I'd smile and take the point, but would acknowledge that Liverpool absolutely stole it.
I think I saw that that was the second PK in 87 years for Everton at Anfield.
 

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To be perfectly clear, Liverpool shouldn't have let it come down to that, and anyone who reads this forum knows what I think of Lovren's decision making. I just don't think a team that had done literally nothing for 75 minutes should be rewarded with such a soft decision. If it was reversed, I'd smile and take the point, but would acknowledge that Liverpool absolutely stole it.
How progressive Everton was should have zero influence on the ref's decision. Klopp was crying about the same thing after the game but that is completely irrelevant. Soft penalty, sure. Sucks to see a dive decide that, sure. But it's football.

You'd be dead on if you just left that middle sentence out.
 

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How progressive Everton was should have zero influence on the ref's decision. Klopp was crying about the same thing after the game but that is completely irrelevant. Soft penalty, sure. Sucks to see a dive decide that, sure. But it's football.

You'd be dead on if you just left that middle sentence out.
Fair is fair. The ref could have called Salah for clearing out Martina. The real issue is how wasteful 'Pool was with their many chances, especially Mane's ridiculous decision not to lay off on that 3-on-1.
 

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Fair is fair. The ref could have called Salah for clearing out Martina. The real issue is how wasteful 'Pool was with their many chances, especially Mane's ridiculous decision not to lay off on that 3-on-1.
Exactly. And I get that it's frustrating as hell both A) Playing against the Allardici's of the football world and B) Not finishing chances in a game that you dominate. But crying about the refs is an exercise in futility and comes off poorly (slagging Klopp more than SFIC here).
 

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OK, saw it again.

Not even close to full extension. Lovren's arm was bent 90 degrees at the elbow when Calvert-Lewin fell down.
Not to mention DCL actually initiated contact in the first place. They were running side by side until DCL slightly changes direction in towards Lovren .. they bump and Lovren's hands come up onto DCL who instantly flops. Just an awful decision.
 

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Horrific penalty decision (and one the “deceive the ref” committee should review) but that’s not why they dropped points. Liverpool continue to be unable to crack relegation sides that park the bus.

It’s a simple formula to defend when the players central to the attack are so static. It wasn’t until Firmino came on that there seemed to be an understanding that being in space outside of a dangerous area is better than being locked down in a dangerous area. Solanke hid behind and between defenders during his entire run and never did anything to draw his men anywhere. By staying central he clogged the middle. He was worse than useless- he closed down the center of the attack for Everton. Firmino drew his defenders away, opening space in the middle, but it was too late.

The squad rotation was too deep and too disrespectful of a side reenergized by a “savior” manager. Substitutions were too late to be impactful. Poor management by Klopp.
 

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I have watched enough football in my life to know that when you slaughter a team like City just did but only score one you are begging to be sucker punched. Don't have a great feeling about 2md half