Coco Crisp Is Completely Insane (Tampa Brawl) Options

[Pearl Wilson]

...and an hour later, we now await the punishment that will be meted out.

Shields threw at Crisp, hit him in the thigh, and Crisp decided to make it personal. He rushed Shields, who threw a hasty punch at Coco. Coco deftly dodged the shot and connected with one of his own (Coco clearly is tougher than he looks) before Navarro interceded. Most fights go to the ground, and Coco wound up on the bottom of a pile of punch-throwing Rays. Benches cleared, bullpens emptied and chaos ensued.

Fines and suspensions are coming, you can bet on that.

[Williams Head Ca...]

I know it was hard for the Umps to accurately see who was involved in the brawl aside from the main participants, but judging from replay, who gets in the most trouble from MLB? I'd have to say aside from Coco and Shields, Carl Crawford noticeably took an active role in landing a few punches. Heck of a juke by Coco, though. So who else appears to be awaiting a call from the Commish's office?

[Nuf Ced]

Fines and suspensions are coming, you can bet on that.

I am interested in seeing whether Gomes and Crawford are punished for throwing cheap shots at Crisp while he was being held down.

Bob Watson will likely punish Coco the most since he could have simply walked to first base after getting hit.

[URISoxFan]

My guess...

Crisp will get the biggest suspension for charging and then throwing a punch...I would guess 8 games.
Shields will get 5 for throwing a punch
Gomes and Crawford will each get 3-5
Iwamura might get 2

Casey and Youkilis both threw punches, and Lugo was kind of violent with Longoria. They will get 40 games each.

[NYCSox]

There are bigger problems if Ellsbury has to miss more than a handful of games with his wrist injury as the Sox can only buy so much time appealing Coco's suspension.

[URISoxFan]

There are bigger problems if Ellsbury has to miss more than a handful of games with his wrist injury as the Sox can only buy so much time appealing Coco's suspension.

Well if Ellsbury is out for any amount of time, Van Every would probably come out. That's passable (Van Every or Drew in center) for the bunch of games Crisp will miss.

Note, I'm not saying good, or ideal...just passable.

[Rough Carrigan]

Two, two, two over-reactions in one series. Thanks Coco. And now, right on time with your suspension they may have Ellsbury hurt.

[NYCSox]

Well if Ellsbury is out for any amount of time, Van Every would probably come out. That's passable (Van Every or Drew in center) for the bunch of games Crisp will miss.

Note, I'm not saying good, or ideal...just passable.

Yup. Definitely sub-optimal but passable.

[Cuzittt]

Shields will get 5 for throwing a punch

Which is pathetic. He wouldn't even miss a start. Has to be 6 or 7 and should be exactly the same amount as Crisp.

[The_Powa_of_Seij...]

brawls like this one are where the Sox sorely miss Julian Tavarez.

[mr guido]

I love that Shields took off his hat but didn't drop his glove, then led with the righty haymaker. Where does a RHP learn to fight like that? Possibly his manager, still sore the Sox turned him down a few years ago & relegating him to loserville?

It's pretty clear the Rays still have the mentality of a last place team, it's pretty mind boggling Shields would get himself ejected from what would be considered an important game if you actually believed the Rays have the talent to compete. I will give Maddon credit here... perhaps he examined their weak pythagoreans, saw that Pena is on the DL, realized they've played most of their games at home, and decided there was no reason to bother gunning for 1st.

URI's suspensions sound about right. Maddon will also get a game or two (intentionally HBP). I imagine there'll be a stray game or two for the various Sox who landed punches.

[Rough Carrigan]

brawls like this one are where the Sox sorely miss Julian Tavarez.

The one time we could get some value out of Rudy Seanez and he's not around.

[URISoxFan]

Of course, if Tavarez were still on the Sox, you'd be looking at about 5 dead bodies.

Three of them Red Sox, just by pure rage filled error.

[Rough Carrigan]

First report from Heidi Watney on NESN is that Ellsbury has a "strained wrist". She added that X-rays were negative. So, not terrible news so far.

[findguapo]

not to be missed, Demarlo Hale had an excellent take down of Shields. I would say Crisp and Shields should get the same suspension, seeing that Crisp is a position player, and Shields is a SP. Gomes threw a couple good haymakers, and Crawford tried to jab some cheap shots in there until Ellsbury pulled him off. It seemed to me like Lugo was trying to just push everyone away, because he has the TB connection, I didn't see anything wrong with him.

This post has been edited by findguapo: Jun 5 2008, 06:47 PM

[YouLookAdopted]

Shields has quite a temper. The scorer for a team he once played for once told me about the time Shields crawled halfway through a press box window during a game to dispute a scoring decision from the previous day. The opposing batter hit a hot shot back to the third baseman which bounced out of his glove. The scorer ruled it a hit and seven runs subsequently scored in the inning. The next day, Shields was charting near the press box when he apparently decided to let the scorer know that he should have ruled it an error. Words were exchanged and Shields is said to have jumped up on a seat and started to climb into the press box. He had to be talked down, but apparently turned around a few more times to yell at and flip-off the scorer. He was subsequently nicknamed "Panty Shields".

[Harry Hooper]

I can't see why Shields should get much of a suspension. He retaliated with a pitch in the thigh (not near the head), and threw a punch at a madman charging full steam at him. He's suposed to just let Coco come out and bludgeon him?

Given Coco's very public comments in the last 24 hours, he'll get at least a week off.

[findguapo]

I can't see why Shields should get much of a suspension. He retaliated with a pitch in the thigh (not near the head), and threw a punch at a madman charging full steam at him. He's suposed to just let Coco come out and bludgeon him?

Given Coco's very public comments in the last 24 hours, he'll get at least a week off.

Because throwing at a batter is against the rules. It is obviously intentional, and for a starting pitcher, a 5 game suspension is equivalent to a 1 day suspension for a position player. He should get 5 or 6 games, then he will appeal.

Richie Sexson received 6 games for charging and throwing his helmet at the pitcher, I do not think that was any more violent then what Crisp did:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3389031
Gabbard received no punishment for that, but it didn't seem like he was even throwing at him, Sexson was just mad because he sucks.

This post has been edited by findguapo: Jun 5 2008, 07:03 PM

[Dick Pole Upside]

not to be missed, Demarlo Hale had an excellent take down of Shields....

Yes... that was excellent form on the Suplex. The Iron Sheikh would've been proud.

Sheilds stuck around and wanted "in" on the fight with Coco, unlike the aforementioned Gabbard/Sexson pas de deux, where Gabbard turtled. Shields, being a very big kid (and apparently one with a temper), appeared to be an active participant once the dust-up began.

Though Casey's name was briefly mentioned in an earlier post as a potential suspendee, I think he'll definitely get a few days off... on the replays it looked like he made a bee-line out of the dugout straight at Shields, and tossed a few before the scrum took over.

[Empyreal]

I was watching the replay of the incident and caught this Ray fixing his shoe. This is the first time he reached down to fix it; he did it twice. So, you're watching your teammates in a brawl and the first thing you do is make sure your Nike is on straight?