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  1. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    ^^ Great read and great find, E5!
  2. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I vigorously disagree that there are 3 or 4 outstanding prospects. People can be pissed but wait 3-4 years and see if they should have been imo. If it goes Williams, Maye then trade back, get assets for 2025 and potentially 2026 to help you get a QB then. I would trade back, get one of Odunze...
  3. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I went back and tried to see with fresh eyes if I was just missing something with the top 4 guys. I tried watching different games. The guy I came away the most frustrated with was JJM. I came away wondering if I should even have a projected starter grade on him. Daniels is also someone that I...
  4. SMU_Sox

    2024 Draft Binkies

    I don't love Thrash. I think he could develop into a WR3 starter as a vertical slot but that's his high end projection. I see him more as a WR 4-5 who is a vertical slot. His hands are so bad :(
  5. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Maye's CPOE is the worst of the top 8 QBs, +0.5%. I hate this part of draft season because people can be overconfident in their evals, which historically we know is the wrong approach. And then people can be reductive like "oh this is fixable". Yes. Sure. It is! But that doesn't mean it...
  6. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Correct. I comped him to Lamar - Lite but it’s underselling what elevated Lamar and makes him special. You hit the nail on the head here. You absolutely can build an offense around him. I question how effective that offense will be from year to year. Unfortunately a lot of the offenses that...
  7. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Speaking of Daniels... A friend asked in slack if one of us could make the case for Daniels. I am not a Daniels in the top 3 person and I am not doing a full big board but Daniels would probably be in around pick 25-35 if I did. Forgive this for being a little choppy - taking it from a bunch of...
  8. SMU_Sox

    2024 Draft Binkies

    Coleman unfortunately was plagued by bad QB play. Coleman is also someone where landing spot matters more than most. It’s really funny to me how eerily similar Matt Waldman and I evaluate WRs. My best fit with Coleman was either the Bengals or the Rams because I want him to go to a QB with...
  9. SMU_Sox

    2024 Draft Binkies

    I am big on all four of Ainias Smith, Javon Baker, Burton, and Johnny Wilson. Each guy is a fit for the WCO in a different way. Baker is also a great vertical option for a guy like Maye who throws a lot down the numbers. My favorite guy that I would hope is in the consideration set at 34 though...
  10. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I didn’t think you were. I think you’re right. I’ve tried to work with some of you here on which guys are “safer” than not. It’s just impossible to bucket guys. The only folks I think were more or less safe were: Luck, Lawrence, Burrow, and Stroud. 4 people in 12 years. You can’t really wait...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    BTW a guy like Mac Jones, I believe anyway, succeeds in SF and I look like an idiot hating him. But he landed here, his situation deteriorated and they did nothing to address the flaws we knew were in his game coming in. Or, who knows, maybe he flames out there but at the very least we can all...
  12. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    I think Daniels could be a pro bowl QB if he fixes his: processing and patience in the pocket and learned how to avoid hits scrambling. But his processing and pocket management is so unrefined and underdeveloped right now I don't see how someone would want to bet on that. The LSU offense...
  13. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Houston at least had a line and drafted some WRs the years before. I don’t think there is a right way to do this aside from if you like a QB at 3 you take him because you might not get the chance again. At the same time if they take Drake Maye and he starts year 1 right away and their other...
  14. SMU_Sox

    2024 NFL Draft: Patriots Discussion

    Baker is a prototypical X but not a blazer. Fisher and Suamataia are younger athletic guys with the measurables that the Packers would love. Unlike many of BYU’s players Suamataia is a transfer and young. He is 21 right now.
  15. SMU_Sox

    The Next Pats QB: Daniels or Maye?

    Yeah @Cellar-Door I would take a guy day 3 for sure if they don't take someone at 3 but I highly doubt they don't take someone at 3. And from Mayo's comments they know that Drake Maye "has no floor" or whatever the quote is. I love that they are being sober about him as a prospect. That's great...
  16. SMU_Sox

    The Next Pats QB: Daniels or Maye?

    I think QBs are such bad bets after round 1 that if you're going to burn a pick on one get him day 3 vs day 2. I am not a Rattler person.
  17. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    The combined factors of losing BB and to a much lesser degree SB might impact the defense more than we'd like to think too. Also add in that teams might have played us conservatively or taken their foot off the gas balanced with hopefully having your two best players back and we're looking at an...
  18. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    McCown knows Maye from his HS days and Shanahan himself went with the toolsy guy at 3 so I think Minnesota would go for Maye. JJM and to a degree Nix are the best fits for his system. Maye is the potential home run swing. Maybe he developed some bad habits or was coached into doing some bad...
  19. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    @Zososoxfan JJ is a natural fit for a Shanny/Kubiak style system with a ton of bootlegs and rollouts. He does that well. Like Jimmy G though he is usually not going to push the ball downfield as much as you'd like. Again, not sure how much that is Harbaugh telling him not to vs he doesn't want...
  20. SMU_Sox

    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    The tricky thing with processing is it is by far the hardest thing to improve on, most prospects come out with average at best processing, but all the best guys improve while most guys don't improve much. Defenses change a lot in the NFL too. You play guys like Fangio and BB (RIP) who like to...
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