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  1. Cellar-Door

    The Next Pats QB: Daniels or Maye?

    I was originally a Daniels over Maye guy but.... I think I've flipped. I still like Daniels and I think his floor is high, but... I think his ceiling might be lower than I originally thought, I don't think he's got Lamar ceiling, the arm isn't quite good enough, I also worry about his running...
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    Yet another Pats draft poll--Your preference, 5 weeks out

    Not particularly comparable given they traded for a pick of a pretty bad team knowing that a generational QB prospect was in the next draft, and another (Maye) prospect generally considered better than any in the draft they traded down in (and the one prior) was also available. Trading for picks...
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    Yet another Pats draft poll--Your preference, 5 weeks out

    I don't think many people thought that. It was considered very good, but only Lawrence was a multi-year top prospect. I think you could make the case that 2021 had a deeper tier 2, ie a top 5 vs a top 3 but the top 3 this year is better than 2021. I think there is a good case that this is the...
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    Yet another Pats draft poll--Your preference, 5 weeks out

    I like Maye a bit more than Daniels at this point, especially for a rebuild, but I think both are very good prospects and if you pass on them you have no real path to a top prospect, and QB is too important to pass. If the guy busts.. oh well, it happens, the upside of a top QB is just so much...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Honesly my thought is that if they did that (I don't think they will) they'd punt QB until 68 or later and stock up with as many blue chip premium position players. You only trade out of 3 if you don't think there is a future franchise QB, and spending firsts on QBs you don't think have that...
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    What do you want Pats to do with #3?

    Could be there, but a lot of people have them moving up for him, hence the trade for 23. This was a response to the idea that MIN moves up to 3 for a QB who isn't JJ, then the Patriots with 11 get McCarthy... seems unlikely to me that 11 moves to 3, then NYG pass on a QB and no other teams...
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    Bears trade Fields to Pittsburgh for 6th rounder (potentially 4th)

    nobody that I know of (though it's a conditional, so I'd consider it a 5th splitting the difference). But basically most people said 3rd when the offseason started, then after the combo Cousins/RUss signings making him a backup and Jones trade most said the market wasn't there and they'd...
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    Bears trade Fields to Pittsburgh for 6th rounder (potentially 4th)

    If Fields comes in early and plays well, I think PIT will offer him some variant of the Baker/Geno deal. HE might turn it down and go for a 1 year prove it somewhere, but I don't think he'll get a Jones deal unless he's AMAZING.
  9. Cellar-Door

    Patriots' 2024 Free Agency Thread

    no, last year of his deal, you don't add an extra. This year is the year when you could do it, but it doesn't really save much money so only worth it in a weird case where you need the roster spot. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-england-patriots So this year if they cut him post June 1...
  10. Cellar-Door

    Patriots' 2024 Free Agency Thread

    no advantage to post June 1 for Juju next year, no guarantees there so just the signing bonus, same money either way.
  11. Cellar-Door

    Bears trade Fields to Pittsburgh for 6th rounder (potentially 4th)

    Yeah, I don't even think people were that wrong (except Kiper who was roundly dismissed as soon as he mentioned a 1st), there was a ton of smoke that ATL would trade a 2nd or 3rd for him to be their starter. I think the problem is... he was their plan B, nobody else had a similar situation...
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    Patriots sign WR KJ Osborn

    He is pretty good, and last year's drop numbers are a major outlier, his career drop% before last year was 2.3%, which is very good (as an example, Ridley's lowest year is 3.2 and his career rate is 5.4, Justin Jefferson's career number is 2.7) Beyond that... how many snaps do you think the top...
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    Patriots sign WR KJ Osborn

    He has a different skillset/body than Douglas, and... you need 5 or 6 WRs, Juju is gone after this season at the latest, and the new staff/FO don't have any attachment to make them play him. Osborn is another guy who can line up anywhere, he has experience in a variant of what they'll run...
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    Patriots sign WR KJ Osborn

    Here is his best game as a pro. View: https://twitter.com/Winnesota18/status/1769461352219754893 One thing that really stands out is... 5'11 203 he's strong (even at the combine really good bench and vert) he runs through arm tackles. Feel like he's an actual threat on the WR screens and...
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    Patriots sign WR KJ Osborn

    NFL.com was higher, 64th overall 6th WR The author of many clutch moments over the last two seasons, Osborn showed the ability to step up as a quality starter when necessary. He’s a good No. 3 option with room to grow.
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    Patriots sign WR KJ Osborn

    Interesting pickup. 5th rounder in 2020, played ST only that year. 2021- 655 yards on 82 targets, despite being under 6' they used him as a downfield thread (10.5 ADOT) probably because he's pretty strong and an excellent vert. 2022- 650 yards on 90 targets, changed up his route package some...
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    Patriots' 2024 Free Agency Thread

    Judon is interesting. I think there may be a value play of giving him a short extension now, coming off injury, then if he proves he's back you just helped his trade value, because it's a couple years and you're going to eat the bonus. Barmore... I'd extend him, he'll probably get a bit less...
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    2024 Mock Drafts are more fun than this boring, awful Patriots Team

    Ok so this is the "trade up for the last of the OT tier" mock scenario: Traded into 26, using 34, a 180/191 swap and future pick shennanigans (3rd, maybe a flip of late rounders) around right on the chart. MDD: Had to move up furhter, 21 for 34, future 2nd, some minor 2025 later pick...
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    Patriots' 2024 Free Agency Thread

    yeah, it's a very minor factor for some players, not at all for others. I honestly would bet that the weather is a bigger one for more guys, and the mediocre appeal of the cities. LA teams have zero problem getting top athletes and the taxes are much higher, same with the NY teams.