No mention of Tony C today?

charlieoscar

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C'mon people. This was the day back in 1967 when the Red Sox essentially lost another HoF left fielder.

added: Oh, yeah, it's also the anniversary of Dombrowski's hiring.
 

oumbi

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Good point. But may I suggest you celebrate and lead the way instead of moaning and groaning about others?

Just to show how good he was, and perhaps could have been:

Conigliaro was signed by the Red Sox in 1962, at the age of 17. In 1963, he batted .363 with 24 home runs playing for the Wellsville Red Soxin the New York–Penn League,[3] after which he was called up to the majors.

During his 1964 rookie season, Conigliaro batted .290 with 24 home runs and 52 RBI in 111 games, but broke his arm and his toes in August. In his first at-bat in Fenway Park, Conigliaro hit a towering home run in the second inning against the White Sox.

In his sophomore season in 1965, Conigliaro led the league in home runs (32), becoming the youngest home run champion in American League history. He was selected for the All-Star Game in 1967. In that season, at age 22, he not only reached a career total of 100 home runs, but attained that milestone at the youngest age for an American League player.
 

dcmissle

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I think I was amazed no one here remembered it.
The vast majority here are too young, thankfully.

For the rest, it’s best out out of mind. The baseball part is the least of it, really. Yes, an enormous and tragic waste when one considers that his statistical comps a year or two in were Mickey Mantle and Frank Robinson. But forget that. At a very young age, he suffered a catastrophic heart attack, then a stroke. Then he existed in his parents’ house for years in a terrible state.

The appendix of heartbreak in Boston sports is too lengthy. Reggie Lewis, Len Bias, Darryl Stingley, and yes, I’ll include Aaron Hernandez too if we’re talking about human frailty and carnage. Tony C near the top of that list.
 

Al Zarilla

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The vast majority here are too young, thankfully.

For the rest, it’s best out out of mind. The baseball part is the least of it, really. Yes, an enormous and tragic waste when one considers that his statistical comps a year or two in were Mickey Mantle and Frank Robinson. But forget that. At a very young age, he suffered a catastrophic heart attack, then a stroke. Then he existed in his parents’ house for years in a terrible state.

The appendix of heartbreak in Boston sports is too lengthy. Reggie Lewis, Len Bias, Darryl Stingley, and yes, I’ll include Aaron Hernandez too if we’re talking about human frailty and carnage. Tony C near the top of that list.
Harry Agganis.
 

joe dokes

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Bobby Orr.

I tend to forget about Tony C because it's my wife's anniversary. The only thing I remember about the player is the short lived comeback attempt. Was that in 1975?
He actually had two seasons where it looked like coming back was real. Then traded. Then his vision faded again. And then the 75 comeback. And then the rest. Awfulness piled onto awfulness. He was coming to interview for the tv38 analysts gig when he had the heart attack with his brother driving.
 
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DanoooME

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Good point. But may I suggest you celebrate and lead the way instead of moaning and groaning about others?

Just to show how good he was, and perhaps could have been:

Conigliaro was signed by the Red Sox in 1962, at the age of 17. In 1963, he batted .363 with 24 home runs playing for the Wellsville Red Soxin the New York–Penn League,[3] after which he was called up to the majors.

During his 1964 rookie season, Conigliaro batted .290 with 24 home runs and 52 RBI in 111 games, but broke his arm and his toes in August. In his first at-bat in Fenway Park, Conigliaro hit a towering home run in the second inning against the White Sox.

In his sophomore season in 1965, Conigliaro led the league in home runs (32), becoming the youngest home run champion in American League history. He was selected for the All-Star Game in 1967. In that season, at age 22, he not only reached a career total of 100 home runs, but attained that milestone at the youngest age for an American League player.
He still holds the record for HRs in a season by a teenager.
 

Sampo Gida

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Not something I care to remember. At 10 he was my favorite player and I saw the HBP on TV. Not every game was televised then. Then a day or so later on the front page you saw his bruised eye.

Yaz kind of made us forget it all for awhile but losing Tony C was a big loss. Then he comes back and was pretty good in those pre-OBP days and they traded him.
 

dcmissle

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Bobby Orr.

I tend to forget about Tony C because it's my wife's anniversary. The only thing I remember about the player is the short lived comeback attempt. Was that in 1975?
Orr needed a time machine — knee surgery that was not medieval by today’s standards. So did Mickey Mantle. (Mantle also needed to be disabused of the conviction that every man in his family died in his 40s or 50s, so what the hell, salut!). But they did enough to be recognized as among the GOATs.

With Tony C, you get a tease and then ghosts. WHAT IF? In that respect, he is closer to Bias.
 

jaytftwofive

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The reason my name is jaytf25 is dedicated to Tony C. My favorite all time player. 1965 was my first real year as a Sox fan he led the league in home runs. Pretty good defensively also. A fan lit a smoke bomb on the field right before the beaning and there was a 10 minute delay and some say Jack Hamilton was still affected by that. Who knows. Funny thing is that he had his best year in 1970 after the beaning. 36 HRs 112 RBI"S I think. But after he got traded the eyesight got worse @ he retired in 71. I don't believe they would have beaten the Cards in 67 even with him because they were just better. I believe the JIm Rice injury right before the 75 series hurt them more and may have cost them the WS with Reds. Anyway he will always be one of the most popular Red Sox of all time. And nicer in public then Yaz.
 

jaytftwofive

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Orr needed a time machine — knee surgery that was not medieval by today’s standards. So did Mickey Mantle. (Mantle also needed to be disabused of the conviction that every man in his family died in his 40s or 50s, so what the hell, salut!). But they did enough to be recognized as among the GOATs.

With Tony C, you get a tease and then ghosts. WHAT IF? In that respect, he is closer to Bias.
Len Bias was probably the worst loss. Michael Jordan, not one who complemented many players said Bias was the best player he ever played against in college.
 
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jaytftwofive

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Who was the member that wrote about Tony C a lot, maybe a book?
Sean Kelly or maybe he spelled it Shaun. He wrote the famous thread "Win it for...." right before Game 7 of 04 ALCS. He sent some of us an audio recording of John Kiley playing that song before Bruins games during the 2011 Cup playoffs. Paree. Good guy Shaun. He was also interviewed in "Curse of the Bambino" on HBO. I think his handle was Lamabe. Yes I think Jack Lamabe was his college baseball coach.
 
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charlieoscar

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You know Tony was a right fielder? Maybe you meant HOF outfielder.
You're right, but he played about 80% of his games in LF during his rookie season (I spent almost all of his MLB career before the beaning in Europe and followed baseball through the Sporting News...which is not quite the same as watching it on tv).
 

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Tony C used to be more of a big deal, the tragedy fell in line with the alleged Red Sox mythos. Now the Red Sox win and people expect more and the mythos is different.
 

Barbara Charles

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Sean Kelly or maybe he spelled it Shaun. He wrote the famous thread "Win it for...." right before Game 7 of 04 ALCS. He sent some of us an audio recording of John Kiley playing that song before Bruins games during the 2011 Cup playoffs. Paree. Good guy Shaun. He was also interviewed in "Curse of the Bambino" on HBO. I think his handle was Lamabe. Yes I think Jack Lamabe was his college baseball coach.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/win-it-for-ten-years-later.6213/