Yanks Abroad 2017-18: Pulisic & Friends

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I agree with @scott bankheadcase. I don't see CCV as a top-four-in-the-EPL type defender, but a future at a lesser club in the EPL isn't out of the question.


The German promotion/relegation playoff first leg kicks off in a few minutes. John Brooks is actually healthy and starting for Wolfsburg. Kenneth Kronholm, a very low-profile German-American, is starting in net for Holstein Kiel.
 

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Never heard of this kid before, but apparently he's a striker born in 2000 who is from KC and has been with Paris FC (not to be confused with PSG) for the last few years.
 

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Miazga scores in what could be his last game with Vitesse:



In France, Timothy Weah started at center forward for PSG in their final game of the season, which ended 0-0. Not sure how he did.
 

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Kristian Dyer published a report in the middle of the night that claims that Tyler Adams will soon sign finalize a deal with RB Leipzig and head over either this summer or the upcoming winter.

Sources tell Metro that Adams is closing in on a deal that would send him to Red Bull Leipzig in the Bundesliga, securing a transfer that presumably would be finalized after the MLS Cup Playoffs this fall. There is a possibility, though, that the move is made permanent this summer and he moves to Europe within the next couple of months. The sources, all speaking on the condition of anonymity, tell Metro that paperwork could be completed within the next few days that would see Adams move to one of Europe’s top leagues.
 

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Reporting indicates Adams will go out on loan to Belgium or the Netherlands in the Fall. Should I not be surprised at that? I would have thought he’d have a chance at getting minutes in Leipzig but that could be my US blinders.
 

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Reporting indicates Adams will go out on loan to Belgium or the Netherlands in the Fall. Should I not be surprised at that? I would have thought he’d have a chance at getting minutes in Leipzig but that could be my US blinders.
Hmm, I haven't seen the Belgium/Netherlands stuff, but the situation seems to be in flux. I agree that I think he has a shot at RB Leipzig directly, even if as a backup initially. With Naby Keita on his way out this summer, there's an opening.

Kicker says the deal to RB Leipzig is "almost certain", but will go through in the winter. The summer window is ideal for the player because he'll have preseason, but selling Adams in mid-season would be real tough for NYRB.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/2018-19/1/tm-news--22835-8760-.html
 

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The NYRB fans are resigned to losing him to bigger opportunities. Why not sell when it both optimizes the price you'll get, and his development? Just doesn't make sense to me.
 

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Pulisic gets a new manager - Lucien Favre, coming over after a good run at Nice. The Bosz-Stroger experience proved to be pretty middling for both Dortmund and Pulisic. Neither the team or the player really progressed this season. All told, Pulisic made 35 starts & 9 substitutes appearances with 5 goals & 6 assists. WhoScored has him making a key pass per game and almost 3 dribbles. That’s a great season for all but a handful of 19 year olds the world over, but incremental progress for the Great American Hope. In my humble opinion, he’s well positioned for a break out season at Dortmund.

Edit: Got cut off...Favre played an aggressive 4-3-3 at Nice with wingers that cut in and had options to shoot or feed Balotelli backed by a stolid midfield. Pulisic should thrive in that set up.
 
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The NYRB fans are resigned to losing him to bigger opportunities. Why not sell when it both optimizes the price you'll get, and his development? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Because they want to win MLS Cup, which they have infamously never done?
 

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You may be right, but if I were Adams' agent I'd be going Full Avenatti over this situation.
I completely understand what you are saying. Realistically speaking, though, if you were in the shoes of Adams' agent (James Grant Sports Management), you'd know you have a million other MLS clients and you'd be reluctant to do something that would burn your bridges....

There's a bit more diversity in the world of player and manager representation in MLS than there once was, but there are real conflicts of interest sometimes.
 

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Gaul was a fringe player for the Galaxy who subsequently spent time in the NASL, USL, and then has gone through three Regionalliga clubs in the past three years. Getting a transfer to the 3. Liga with Zwickau is a nice bump up for him.

He'll be managed by Joe Enochs, who is taking over the Zwickau job this summer.
 

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In another lower-level German move, defensive midfielder Royal-Dominique Fennell moved across the 3. Liga from Hallescher FC to VfR Aalen. He's a German-American who is set for his seventh season at this level after working his way up from the Regionalliga with Stuttgarter Kickers.

 

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David Wagner signed a new contract to stay at Huddersfield through 2021.
 

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Pulisic article? Pulisic article.

Summary:
- His playtime was a lot higher this season than last, but his performance suffered in parallel to that of his team, given the squad and managerial turnover
- An advanced value metric used in the Bundesliga rates his skills without the ball even more highly (82nd percentile in the bundesliga) than his skills with the ball (43rd percentile), attributed to him winning the ball back in offensive positions under Tuchel
- His team let him down by being so conservative that it didn't often get to a position where his talents were useful; that's why more offensive-minded clubs are so interested in him, since they'd reasonably think Dortmund would presently undervalue him.

"His profile is special," says Reinartz. "We usually don't see players scoring this many goals and creating as many assists as he does without being extraordinarily good at bypassing defenders with killer passes, making deep runs to bypass defenders as a receiver or taking up good positions between the lines to bypass players as a receiver. He's merely at a reasonable level in all of these departments."

The data suggests that Pulisic is excellent at creating dangerous moments in the final third, even without beating many defenders, but that he doesn't do much to help his team get there in the first place. Reinartz suggests that these characteristics meant the teenager was particularly negatively impacted by Stoger's unconvincing attacking game.

Unlike Tuchel, whose detailed patterns and processes ensured Dortmund regularly arrived in the opposition box, where Pulisic comes alive, Stoger had a harder time getting his team into good final-third positions. Attacks often broke down well before Pulisic could apply his telling final touch.

He is not a player who can do things alone, without the help of joined-up tactics and productive teammates. At least, not yet. But Pulisic is only 19 and his performances must be seen in the context of his age group. Pulisic might have only reached average levels of output as an attacking midfielder, but for his age he has been outstandingly good.

"A comparison with Bundesliga attacking midfielders under 20 shows that only Ousmane Dembele (Dortmund) and Kai Havertz (Leverkusen) have done better over the last two seasons," says Reinartz. "Scouts read his profile as that of a very talented player who is great in the final third and can still progress in all other departments."
 

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Pulisic article? Pulisic article.

Summary:
- His playtime was a lot higher this season than last, but his performance suffered in parallel to that of his team, given the squad and managerial turnover
- An advanced value metric used in the Bundesliga rates his skills without the ball even more highly (82nd percentile in the bundesliga) than his skills with the ball (43rd percentile), attributed to him winning the ball back in offensive positions under Tuchel
- His team let him down by being so conservative that it didn't often get to a position where his talents were useful; that's why more offensive-minded clubs are so interested in him, since they'd reasonably think Dortmund would presently undervalue him.
Two thoughts:

First, Dortmund already knows all this, and they have to be very excited to see what Pulisic and their other wingers can do in Lucien Favre’s 4-3-3. At Nice, Favre’s wide attacker’s got tons of 1v1 opportunities against fullbacks, with options to cut inside or cross the ball.

Second, at which bigger club will Pulisic get the first team minutes he needs to continue developing?

Unless Favre comes out and says he won’t play Americans in protest of President Trump, then I don’t quite see a strong reason for Dortmund to seek, a major club to buy, or Pulisic to seek a move this summer.
 

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L'Equipe is reporting that Jordan Siebatcheu, who tied for second in the Ligue 2 scoring charts, is moving from Reims to Rennes for €12m. That's big money, and he's a 22 year old forward. That'll catch the eye...
 

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Omar Gonzalez moves from Pachuca to Atlas.


He lost his place in the starting lineup at Pachuca last season. Atlas is typically a step down on the Mexican food chain, so perhaps he'll get more playing time there.
 

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I just noticed his initials are O. G. As in Own Goal.

Sigh.
 

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Hull City are in "advanced talks" for Eric Lichaj, who has one more year on his deal at Nottingham Forest.
 

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Jose Francisco Torres moved from Tigres to Puebla. That's a step down in the Mexican hierarchy, but Torres' role at Tigres has been steadily shrinking in stature.


Other moves in Mexico:

Michael Orozco from Tijuana to Lobos BUAP
Bernie Magana from Pumas to Venados
Joaquin Hernandez from Atlético Reynosa to Correcaminos UAT
 

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L'Equipe is reporting that Jordan Siebatcheu, who tied for second in the Ligue 2 scoring charts, is moving from Reims to Rennes for €12m. That's big money, and he's a 22 year old forward. That'll catch the eye...
This was official on Tuesday:


TF says it's a €9m deal. Sarachan recently confirmed that the US has been reaching out to him.
 

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Julian Green has moved to Greuther Fürth on a two year deal. That's where he was on loan last year, so he should continue to get regular playing time.

He wasn't going to play for Stuttgart, so dropping to the 2.BL makes sense. And if he was going to do that, he might as well stick with the club that knows him and used him a lot on loan. Plus, Green is notoriously a homebody so staying in Bavaria probably appeals to him.

 

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There's a very loose rumor on Reddit that Giovanni Reyna is headed to Borussia Dortmund this summer. In December, it was reported that he was pursuing a Portuguese passport for which he has eligibility through his grandmother (Claudio's mom). If the passport has come through, he will be eligible to officially sign in Europe this winter after he turns 16. Without the passport, he'd have to wait until 18.

Reyna is an attacker who is viewed as one of our better 2002s.
 

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A youth player named Ismael Ido is apparently heading to Nantes.


I've never heard of him before. From some googling, he's from MD and played high school soccer rather than the DA. I wonder how Nantes found him.
 

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There's a very loose rumor on Reddit that Giovanni Reyna is headed to Borussia Dortmund this summer. In December, it was reported that he was pursuing a Portuguese passport for which he has eligibility through his grandmother (Claudio's mom). If the passport has come through, he will be eligible to officially sign in Europe this winter after he turns 16. Without the passport, he'd have to wait until 18.

Reyna is an attacker who is viewed as one of our better 2002s.
I'll be surprised if it's anywhere but the Bundesliga, and my money is on Werder Bremen. Note that Reyna and Sargent are repped by the same agency.
 

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A youth player named Ismael Ido is apparently heading to Nantes.


I've never heard of him before. From some googling, he's from MD and played high school soccer rather than the DA. I wonder how Nantes found him.
I have a player on my varsity squad who's going into 10th grade, but at the end of the summer, he's going to spend a few weeks with the Celtic club. Sometimes, players can get these connections through programs with connections... my player has the connection through a company called Coerver. I don't think he'll get signed, but you never know.
 

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I have a player on my varsity squad who's going into 10th grade, but at the end of the summer, he's going to spend a few weeks with the Celtic club. Sometimes, players can get these connections through programs with connections... my player has the connection through a company called Coerver. I don't think he'll get signed, but you never know.
Yeah, sometimes it's as simple as having some Euro transplant youth coach who knows a guy in the old country.

Even then, going to Europe as an unknown youngster means navigating a very difficult patchwork of work restrictions. Without a passport from an EU country, many doors are closed, even for high-profile US youth national team stars. This is one of the big reasons why so many top US teens are going to Germany. There are no restrictions there.

If this kid doesn't have the right second passport, he's not going to be signed by Celtic no matter how good he is. He won't get a work permit there or anywhere else in the UK.
 

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Eric Lichaj's rumored move to Hull City is now official.


Andrija Novakovich has extended his contract at Reading to 2020 and will be loaned out to Fortuna Sittard this year. Novakovich scored 19 goals in the Dutch second division for Telstar last year and will now have a shot in the Eredivisie. Fortuna Sittard will be very familiar with him, having just won promotion to the top tier. Hopefully they aren't outclassed every week and Novakovich gets scoring chances.

 

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An early view of Americans in European competitions next season:

CL - 1st qualifying round
Brian Iloski (Legia Warsaw)
Dion Acoff (Valur)

CL - 2nd qualifying round
Bill Hamid (Midtjylland)

CL - 3rd qualifying round
Keaton Parks (Benfica)

CL - group stage
Christian Pulisic (Borussia Dortmund)
Weston McKennie (Schalke)
Timothy Weah (PSG) - could be loaned out
Ethan Horvath (Club Brugge) - could be loaned out
Cameron Carter-Vickers (Tottenham) - likely to be loaned out
Erik Palmer-Brown (Manchester City) - likely to be loaned out
Nick Taitague (Schalke) - youth player / longshot

EL - 1st qualifying round
Jonathan Amon (Nordsjælland)
Aaron Schoenfeld (Maccabi Tel Aviv)
Will Dieterich (Stjarnan)

EL - group stage
Timothy Chandler (Eintracht Frankfurt)
Jordan Siebatcheu (Rennes)
Kenny Saief (Anderlecht)
Matt Miazga (Chelsea) - likely to be loaned out
Mukwelle Akale (Villarreal) - youth player / longshot
Gedion Zelalem (Arsenal) - youth player / longshot
 

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Is the Eredivisie worse than I realized? I thought it was a good enough league that a loan from the Championship is kinda oddly lateral, but I might be misjudging the Dutch league based on the top 3 teams or so.
 

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Is the Eredivisie worse than I realized? I thought it was a good enough league that a loan from the Championship is kinda oddly lateral, but I might be misjudging the Dutch league based on the top 3 teams or so.
I think there's probably some substantial overlap in quality between the two leagues, but I'd wager that the bottom of the Eredivisie is more in line with League One. I'd be shocked if median salaries in the Championship aren't substantially higher.

Ajax had a nice run in the Europa League two seasons ago, but the European results for the Dutch league have been declining steadily. Clubs outside of the big three are usually trash and even the big guns are hit and miss because their talent gets poached so fast. Last season, Ajax and PSV both got knocked out of the qualifiers immediately, losing both legs, to Rosenborg and Osijek respectively.
 

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Eredivisie has had a marked descent. By UEFA coefficient Eredivisie is down to 14th, behind Czech Rep, Austria, and Switzerland among others. Last season alone they registered a paltry 2.9 coefficient points, good for 28th and behind Kazakhstan, Macedonia, Slovenia and a bunch of other countries that don't have comparably historic quality. 2016-17 they did fairly well with 9.1 points but that seems like an upward blip in an otherwise mediocre trajectory (5.916 6.083 5.750 9.100 2.900). Getting out of the qualies this year would be a good foundation to turn things around.
 

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Now that AC Milan has been booted from Europa you can now add, for the sake of completeness, Fiorentina's AM Joshua Perez who will likely be on loan. They will enter in the second qualifying round.
 

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Kekuta Manneh has moved from Pachuca to St. Gallen in the Swiss League on a free.

He's a very fast winger who has his moments, but he has too many weaknesses to be a top level player.
 

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19 year old Bayern attacking midfielder Timothy Tillman has gone on loan to Nürnberg this season.


He has played in official youth games for Germany, so he would need to file a one-time switch to ever play for the US. I don't think he's on a German NT trajectory, so there's a good chance that would happen if he turns out to be good enough for the US.
 

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Erik Palmer-Brown goes on loan from Manchester City to NAC Breda for the season.

Terrence Boyd, who was out of contract, gets a one-year extension at Darmstadt:


RSL academy midfielder Richie Ledezma is on trial with PSV.


Seyi Adekoya, a 22 year old Sounders academy product who was released by the Seattle, has signed with Vendsyssel FF in the Danish Superliga.
 

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Marsch has been named assistant at RB Leipzig, under Rangnick. He's on a two-year contract, so it seems he will transition to Nagelsmann's staff as well.


With zero record of MLS-to-major Euro league success among managers, it was doubtful that Marsch would ever be put in charge of a Bundesliga club. The only question is whether it's smarter to take an assistant gig here or try to find a managerial gig at a club in a smaller league. Marsch's connections with Red Bull probably made this course of action more feasible. It's a weird situation with Rangnick confirmed as a one-year manager, to be succeeded by Nagelsmann. Marsch definitely isn't a manager-in-waiting at RB Leipzig because Nagelsmann would be viewed as a potentially long-term move, but maybe he can parlay this into a job elsewhere in Germany.
 

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Marsch definitely isn't a manager-in-waiting at RB Leipzig because Nagelsmann would be viewed as a potentially long-term move, but maybe he can parlay this into a job elsewhere in Germany.
Or the Salzburg job? I like the idea of Marsch taking a couple of years to learn and prove himself in Europe in order to get a European job. If he were to do that, be successful at Salzburg (or a smaller job elsewhere in Germany), he would be in his late 40s and considered a decent shot for a respected job in a top 5 league. No way in hell he gets that coming from MLS.

It's also not impossible to see Nagelsmann outgrowing Liepzig in a couple of years, and Marsch could get a shot there.
 

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Shaq Moore goes on loan from Levante to Reus in the Spanish 2nd division. After least season's time in Levante's rotation, he looks ready to be a starter in the 2nd division.
AFAIK the Spanish second division has even stricter rules about the number of non-EU players per team, but Moore can bypass the rules in both leagues because he has a Trinidadian passport. T&T is a signatory to the Cotonou Agreement, and all Cotonou countries (mostly African and Caribbean) count as local in Spain.

Most American players wouldn't be able to follow Moore's career path in Spain for legal reasons.
 

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I'm going to start a new thread soon, but for now, the first American goal of the 2018-19 European season from 20 year old striker Emmanuel Sabbi:


(Denmark starts their season very early)
 

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20 year old Chelsea central midfielder Kyle Scott has gone on loan to Telstar in the Dutch second division. That's the same club that was home to Andrija Novakovich last season. Like with most Chelsea youth players, for years it's just been a matter of time before he headed elsewhere. Hopefully Telstar will be a good shop window for him like it was for Novakovich.