2018 AFCCG: Jags v. Pats (Non-Brady Edition)
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Strange, he reached across his body and pushed the door open with his left, adjusting his hat with his left, caggy about the injury.
My point was more on the magnitude of the action rather than the confirmation of an injury which we all were aware of. If the injury was minor I wouldn't expect to see the consciousness to avoid the possibility of the door bumping his hand by reaching across his body with his non-primary hand.
Tom Brady pretty much does EVERYTHING with the consciousness you're talking about.
Yeah, but we have people implicitly and explicitly challenging DRS, which is very special.
People will believe what they want to believe. When confronted with irrefutable evidence to the contrary, then it’s time for the Ordway two-step (“I didn’t say THAT, I said ...”)
Who said he wasn't hurt?
I think the people that are saying this was Brady having some fun are not also saying his was all a charade. Pretty much everyone acknowledges that he got hurt.
Might as well make something of it. Remember when Aragorn actually broke his toe kicking a helmet, and they used the shot in the movie?
Hmm. Had already done that. Well, if that Pats win and the Minny game is between 33 and 45.5 points, I'm gonna be rich!
Didn't something similar happen last year? My memory is very fuzzy, -- I can't even recall if it was the NFL -- but the same thing happened where they prepped multiple promos to be released post-event, and then one got released pre-event?
(And no, I'm not referring to Dewey Beats Truman -- I'm not THAT old.)
(And no, I'm not referring to Dewey Beats Truman -- I'm not THAT old.)
I recall something to do with a photo promo featuring QBs (maybe the 12 playoff Qbs?) and Brady was oddly left off.
Someone wayyy up thread had mentioned that. Reinforces the notion that the Jags D annihilated weaker teams and built a lot of their statistical leadership on that. Not to take them lightly, but it’s why looking solely at averages can be misleading.
Any particular reason Brady can't wear a glove? I get it that he does not really want to, but it is not like he would be wearing a cotton mitten. It seems like some of these gloves QBs are starting to wear are probably not that bad. I sort of hope he does if only because it would lessen the chance of re-opening the cut.
Do we know if he threw with the glove in practice yesterday?
Do we know if he threw with the glove in practice yesterday?
No. But if he thought he were better with the glove, he’d have been wearing it the last, oh, couple decades.
Moving forward, please discuss ONLY non-Brady topics here.
For Brady's injury news, updates, and how it may impact the game, please post them in the new thread.
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P.S. It may be too unwieldy to merge all Brady/thumb-related posts with the new thread so I'm leaving them here for now.
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For all the TB12/thumb discussion, I don’t think nearly enough ink has been spilled about the other QB, the very estimable Blake Bortles.
In two playoff games, he’s 26/49 for 301 and 2 TDs and 0 INTs. Total. And those numbers are almost exactly evenly split over the two games despite the fact that those wildly pedestrian numbers (are they any better than what a Pat fan might expect out of Hoyer if he did have to play tomorrow???) generated only 10 points in the game vs Buffalo but 45 vs Pitt.
In 18 games (reg + playoffs), he had 7 games where he threw for under 200 yards, and only 4 for over 300. His regular season TD/INT was 21/13.
This guy is not good.
In two playoff games, he’s 26/49 for 301 and 2 TDs and 0 INTs. Total. And those numbers are almost exactly evenly split over the two games despite the fact that those wildly pedestrian numbers (are they any better than what a Pat fan might expect out of Hoyer if he did have to play tomorrow???) generated only 10 points in the game vs Buffalo but 45 vs Pitt.
In 18 games (reg + playoffs), he had 7 games where he threw for under 200 yards, and only 4 for over 300. His regular season TD/INT was 21/13.
This guy is not good.
I agree that Brady should be fine and that the Pats are very likely to win.
That said, if you can’t understand that an injury to the throwing hand of the QB is cause for legitimate concern, I’m not sure what to tell you.
The amount of ink that has been spilled on this topic in the the media and posts in this thread speak to that. So does the fact that the Vegas line has moved in the Jags’ favor. So while Brady will probably be fine, if that cut opens up, the thumb bothers him or his throwing gets affected, the Pats’ chances will be adversely impacted. All the confidence in the world and pointless snark doesn’t change that reality.
If Brady is less than 100% shouldn't the offensive strategy be for a fast tempo/no huddle short pass/backs out of the back field/ or run attack, that both confuses the D (giving Brady a lot of audible possibilites) and limits exposure to a pass-rush, and wears down the Jags D-line? Use Cooks/Britt/Dorset as WR decoys and take the CBs downfield and open the middle?
If the long ball is a difficulty who of the Patriots backs/receivers is the best at attempting to throw downfield? (Obviously a healthy Edelman would be best here)
Isn't there a rumour that Hogan can do just about anything? And Hollister was a QB at one point. Which probably means it'll be Brandon Bolden...
If they do put something like that in, it’s probably a one play only thing. Brady’s “zinging” the ball anyway, what are we worried about?
This game comes down to many things tomorrow but the one thing I come back to is 1st down for both teams. If the Pats can get into 2nd and medium and hold the Jags to 2nd/3rd and long they win by a lot. If not, then it allows the Jags pass rush to pin their ears back on Brady and also allows Bortles to take advantage of play action like he did last week. It opens up a lot of their playbook including Yeldon out of the backfield receiving the ball.
Picking the Pats is boring. Picking against them is stupid.
Having said that, I feel incredibly confident against a good, but vastly overrated Jaguars defense.
Having said that, I feel incredibly confident against a good, but vastly overrated Jaguars defense.
The guys on the Ringer NFL podcast summed up my view of the ongoing Tom Coughlin narrative nicely when one of them said (paraphrased): "the key to beating the Pats offense is to play tight man to man coverage the get pressure with four, especially up the middle, like the Tom Coughlin-coached Giants teams....NO SHIT! Did we really need Tom Coughlin to teach us that?"
I think this is more of analysts being desperate for a Jags win instead of genuinely thinking they'll win. It can't be that one-sided, even with Brady's apparent "Injury."
The funny thing about the ridiculous Tom Coughlin narrative is that the things that you describe beat every team.
The Coughlin/Eli narrative would be so different today if SB42 Luck didn’t happen.
Here's the thing about media outlets talking about ways to beat the Patriots ... they're bored.
They've been talking about ways to beat the Patriots for almost two decades, and they want something new to talk about. It's that way in the national media for any dynasty ... they're fun to talk about until it becomes boring.
It's the same with those who pick against the Patriots.
The only thing foolish about either is those Patriots fans who get upset about it.
They've been talking about ways to beat the Patriots for almost two decades, and they want something new to talk about. It's that way in the national media for any dynasty ... they're fun to talk about until it becomes boring.
It's the same with those who pick against the Patriots.
The only thing foolish about either is those Patriots fans who get upset about it.
Yeah, it's baffling that it's become "The Brady Formula" when it's like the definition of defense. "We can get this guy if we can cover and pressure simultaneously." Well, duh, but that's not a strategy.
Put them in front of a Vegas teller, paycheck in hand, and tell them at gunpoint they have to bet the money line one way or another. I think you’d see something different
If nobody is open and we get to Tom in less than a half a second we will succeed!
Might Kenny Britt be active for this game over Hollister to add to the run blocking contingent?