https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-12/nfl-harassment-suit-alleges-groping-by-top-executive-ex-players
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Marshall Faulk, Ike Taylor, and Heath Evans Suspended from NFL Network
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Yes, Faulk on this list is definitely notable. He strikes me as a liar and a bully. Perhaps this is evidence?
McNabb involved, as well, wonder if ESPN axes him. Glad Willie left the beast in its cave, he seems like a good dude. Faulk being a scumbag is unsurprising, he and Sapp really went out in a blaze of glory. No Irvin is a bit of a shocker, though.
The Ex-employee strikes me as a bit odd right off the bat. And the fact that that one person would name so many people... Not saying that this is true of her, but at some point there is going to be someone who makes false allegations for some other reason
.. just wondering when it will be.
Edit: at the same time.. any guy that is brazen enough to send sexually explicit texts or photos to someone who is wholly uninterested deserves to be called out.
.. just wondering when it will be.
Edit: at the same time.. any guy that is brazen enough to send sexually explicit texts or photos to someone who is wholly uninterested deserves to be called out.
What's the amount of people named have to do with it? Maybe it was the office culture?
Wonder what Bill does with Weinberger. He loves the guy but lawyers and public pressure run this game.
Possibly, of course. But it's one person naming several people in a very prominent workplace that she's no longer a part of.
Also, as I added.. her evidence seems to be a number of people texting her images and such. I was just thinking (initially) that it was odd for someone to name several famous people in one claim...but it would appear that she has the goods to back it up.
Yeah, I don't know - the accusations are very specific and easily proven (either she has the email/texts or not), so regardless if she's an ex-employee with an axe to grind, there's basically zero legitimate reason why you should be sending a masturbating video to a female co-worker.
I totally agree. I hope that's clear. This woman seems to be the first to have received multiple texts/ dick pics from very prominent people she worked with.. or at least that we've heard of. I personally have never sent a pic to a gf or otherwise. So I don't fully comprehend how widespread a practice it is.
I can't wait to hear Faulk's explanation about how the cheating spying Patriots caused this for him.
One of these days a public figure is gong to be accused of sexual misconduct and actually be innocent. I hope that’s the case with Evans as I truly enjoy his takes and he seems like a solid guy. Alas, I suspect this is in reality another example of the fact that we don’t know shit about these strangers.
But if someone has to be on the list...well Marshall Faulk, that baby, is as good a candidate as anyone.
But if someone has to be on the list...well Marshall Faulk, that baby, is as good a candidate as anyone.
Regardless of what a great guy Evans might’ve seemed like, he is accused of some pretty awful stuff here.
As for what happened, it’s not hard to understand what might’ve transpired here – there aren’t many women in the studio and when she first filed this case a few months back, everything was anonymous because she was scared. Now, w #MeToo the accuser feels more comfortable coming forward and putting names and specific actions to the complaint.
It’s ugly but it’s progress.
As for what happened, it’s not hard to understand what might’ve transpired here – there aren’t many women in the studio and when she first filed this case a few months back, everything was anonymous because she was scared. Now, w #MeToo the accuser feels more comfortable coming forward and putting names and specific actions to the complaint.
It’s ugly but it’s progress.
A few more details here: https://deadspin.com/nfl-network-suspends-marshall-faulk-ike-taylor-heath-1821206708
Weinberger has been placed on indefinite leave by The Ringer who is doing their own investigation.
Weinberger has been placed on indefinite leave by The Ringer who is doing their own investigation.
Great post, he should be stoned for that. Head over to V&N for the, shit on the shit that is DT, circle jerk.
Yeah, it could happen. I think zero tolerance means just being accused.That's why they should be suspended until whatever company is convinced, one way or the other, whether the accusations are true or not. That does suck for someone who's innocent but not sure of a fair alternative.
The ex-employer is a wardrobe stylist. To me, that means she was often working with these jerks in semi-private dressing rooms where they were sometimes partially naked and where her job responsibilities had her micro-focused on small details of the on-air talents appearance and, thus, vulnerable to some groping from the entitled, former star assholes.
Edit: also, just because she doesn't work there anymore doesn't mean that her accusations are driven by revenge against her former employer. Maybe she simply got a better job where assholes weren't groping her and sending her dick videos.
Edit: also, just because she doesn't work there anymore doesn't mean that her accusations are driven by revenge against her former employer. Maybe she simply got a better job where assholes weren't groping her and sending her dick videos.
Or how about we keep political talk in the right forum? I find it annoying with how many threads get polluted with Trump talk. Perhaps I'm in the minority though.
From the Deadspin article:
Jami Cantor, who worked as a wardrobe stylist for NFL Network, filed a wrongful termination suit against NFL Enterprises in Los Angeles Superior Court back in October
This of course doesn't mean she's out for revenge, but your theory goes out of the window.
I get that, sure. It's tedious. And I apologize for polluting the thread with a dumb follow-up response.
I think the fact that Evans sends unsolicited dick pics along with his political views kinda paint a total picture of the guy as my original post was in response to someone saying he seemed like a solid guy. To me, this is more of a news/media story than a sports story, and on a sports discussion board with a robust political discourse embedded beyond the sports discussions, it can be nebulous where the politics and sports begin and end(especially in 2017), but I get and agree with the revulsion to interjecting Trump into every discussion.
Again, sorry for de-railing the thread and my snarky response.
After a long delay, ESPN finally posted their very generic re-telling of this story:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21745105/marshall-faulk-trio-suspended-nfl-network
They conveniently left out the fact that Weinberger was a former ESPN employee.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21745105/marshall-faulk-trio-suspended-nfl-network
They conveniently left out the fact that Weinberger was a former ESPN employee.
You’re sorry, but in case we weren’t clear, Republicans send dick picks. Thanks for clarifying.
I’m Sorry about Evans too, but if the net of this whole thing means no more Marshall Faulk on NFLN, good.
I'm willing to treat these guys as innocent until proven guilty, at least in a legal sense, but speaking as a Falcons fan, I won't miss Evans' pro-Saints shtick at all either. I'm pretty sure he predicted the Falcons would go 4-12 last season.
He certainly seems like a supporter of 45 as does Faulk and Taylor. Might be more for V&N but they seem like a bunch of assholes who like to use their power to bully women. Something that is a hallmark of 45's America.
If this was the uncultured poster that I was a few years ago, then I would have to chuckle at the comment where Faulk blames this on spy gate. However laughing at this or making a joke goes against any principle of Social Justice. Women should not be harassed, assaulted, or bullied in the work place, period. These "men" need to be terminated.
OK. Hard to believe people behave this way well into the 21st century. When I was a new manager in 1980, the company sent me and a few other new managers off to a sexual harassment seminar. The seminar was very hard hitting, with several shocking examples of what you don't do, and the resulting severe punishment all the way back then. One of the big messages is that the company an offender works for doesn't have to bail you out. Monetary punishments that come out of lawsuits have to be paid by the defendant, not the company, as it should be. On board lawyers here correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Can't believe this either: when she complained to a supervisor of these clowns, the guy said "It's part of the job when you look the way you do." First page of the charge, don't know how to get the rest of it.
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking about the company bailing out the defendant. If the company was made aware of harassment, they're on the hook too. And, it should be that way, not only morally, but if it's the 30k/year intern harassing you, what sort of financial recovery can you expect? If you're talking about a situation where an assault takes place off campus or as a one off and the company couldn't possibly have prevented it or foreseen it, then, yes, just the perpetrator would be liable.OK. Hard to believe people behave this way well into the 21st century. When I was a new manager in 1980, the company sent me and a few other new managers off to a sexual harassment seminar. The seminar was very hard hitting, with several shocking examples of what you don't do, and the resulting severe punishment all the way back then. One of the big messages is that the company an offender works for doesn't have to bail you out. Monetary punishments that come out of lawsuits have to be paid by the defendant, not the company, as it should be. On board lawyers here correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Can't believe this either: when she complained to a supervisor of these clowns, the guy said "It's part of the job when you look the way you do." First page of the charge, don't know how to get the rest of it.
To be fair when I was typing the post wasn't posted yet. Also I do feel that sexual harassment and assault on women IS the topic here.
It also says the accuser was let go from the NFL Network in October of 2016, so all of this would have taken place in Obama's America. I'm not a Trump guy either, but not everything is related to Trump.
Correct, it is the topic. However, the other threads on this topic illustrate that the harassers cross party lines. And it has been going on long before DJT bought his first airline.
It certainly is not surprising that at some point this issue would get raised at one of the sports networks. And I'm not exactly jumping for joy that a guy that many of us here don't like got accused. For one, it means that an innocent woman (at least one, anyway) was subject to egregious harassment. Second, it's unlikely that this case represents an isolated incident.
I meant the perpetrator would be liable if he/she were the only one guilty of anything, i.e., a company rep didn't act as the supervisor in this case allegedly did ("It's part of the job when you look the way you do.").
I don't know if Warren has handlers or anything, but they should be taking away his phone.
https://twitter.com/WarrenSapp/with_replies
https://twitter.com/WarrenSapp/with_replies
#notmetoo ?
Holy shit. I should be passed the point of being surprised by now, but I still find myself managing to be flabbergasted by the sheer audacity of some things.
#alllivesmatter was terrible #notmetoo somehow is worse.
Disappointed in Ike. Underrated player, good commentator in post playing career. But Christ that's stupid of him.
Incredible piece by onetime NFL Media/Network employee and current senior editor of Deadspin, Diana Moscowicz, about the cultural and journalistic sewer that is NFL Media:
https://deadspin.com/you-survived-at-nfl-network-by-staying-silent-1821277178
I’m sure someone will raise an opinion about the propriety of writing a piece like this about one of your former employers for your current employer. It won’t be me. This is a must-read IMO.
https://deadspin.com/you-survived-at-nfl-network-by-staying-silent-1821277178
I’m sure someone will raise an opinion about the propriety of writing a piece like this about one of your former employers for your current employer. It won’t be me. This is a must-read IMO.