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Guessing that means Bergeron should be ready to go on Thursday, otherwise 1 will have to be called back up. Surprised Heinen didn’t stick around as a kick in the ass to Vatrano and Beleskey.
 

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Heinen a victim of his contract status. He isn't doesn't need to be exposed to waivers. He deserves a shot at a top 9 role given his play so far.
 

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Backes also returned to practice today and is a possibility to play Thursday. Seems like this was a numbers crunch.
 

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Goal and 2 assists for Heinen tonight through 3 periods. He may force his way back up in short order.
The Bruins are really loaded with young forward talent right now, between Bjork, DeBrusk, and Providence guys who are worth a look (Heinen, Cehlarik, JFK, Czarnik). That doesn't even get to Senyshyn, who is in Providence but has some more work to do to earn a callup.
 

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Heinen is up to 1-7=8 in 4 games in Providence. I’m close to ready to bring him up full time. Would need to either waive and send down Beleskey or trade Vatrano, but I think Heinen brings more to the table than those 2.
 

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Heinen is up to 1-7=8 in 4 games in Providence. I’m close to ready to bring him up full time. Would need to either waive and send down Beleskey or trade Vatrano, but I think Heinen brings more to the table than those 2.
I agree with this. Vatrano really is nothing more than a quick release at this point. Pretty disappointed with his development, but maybe in another town he might get a more consistent shot. He had that great AHL run, but really hasn't been able to put anything together up here.

Belesky at least provides some physicality, but boy is that contract going to annoy us over the next few years.
 

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Providence is rolling along, 4-1 win last night to move to 6-1-0 on the year. 2 goals for Czarnik who is 4-4=8 in 4 games.

Frederic scored for Wisconsin, 5-4=9 in 8 games do start his season.

Donato's season begins on Sunday. He had 2 goals and 3 assists in a 7-2 exhibition win over the under 18 national team last weekend. He's getting Hobey buzz.
 

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Providence is rolling along, 4-1 win last night to move to 6-1-0 on the year. 2 goals for Czarnik who is 4-4=8 in 4 games.

Frederic scored for Wisconsin, 5-4=9 in 8 games do start his season.

Donato's season begins on Sunday. He had 2 goals and 3 assists in a 7-2 exhibition win over the under 18 national team last weekend. He's getting Hobey buzz.
I watched a bit of the Harvard v. Dartmouth game over the weekend, and Donato is just a step above everyone on the ice. It's almost not fair.

Harvard, also, looks fantastic. They are real contenders this year.

Agostino sent back to Providence. Worthwhile gamble, but he seems like Chris Bourque redux.
Heinen has been awesome. I think this is more about Danton than it is about Agostino. He's been fine, but as you note, seems like a Chris Bourque redux.
 

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In Friedman’s weekly column he says Koko may return after this year. Apparently he liked playing for Cassidy, so a return seems to be possibly. 6-12=18 in 23 KHL games this season. Interesting.

Koko of course is young and Russian so it’s a double whammy since we all know Clode hates young kids and Russians....
 

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I may be the last skeptic on Heinen. I've seen him a lot in Providence and overall I remain unimpressed. The skillset is there, but I've yet to see consistent effort and good decision making. Nobody will want to hear this, but he slightly reminds me of Zach Hamill. Not necessarily in terms of playing style, but in his engagement in the game. I really don't buy in on him as a top 6 and he'll have to show me more than a few games of solid effort in Boston for me to come around on him. Maybe it takes knowing he's going against NHL competition to get him fully engaged, or that the NHL free flowing style versus the more grinding AHL suits him much better. (I think the later is more likely)
 
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Quick check in on the prospects...

NCAA

Trent Frederic- 11 games 5-5=10
Cameron Hughes- 11 games 3-3=6
Ryan Donato- 3 games 2-3=5
Wiley Sherman- 3 games 0-1=1
Ryan Lindgren- 10 games 1-2=3
Jack Becker- 5 games 0-1=1

CHL

Jack Studnicka- 18 games 4-13=17
Cedric Pare- 19 games 5-3=8
Daniel Bukac- Injured hasn’t played

Europe

Urho Vaakanainen- 11 games 0-2=2
Alex Khokhlachev- 26 games 9-13=23
Oskar Steen- 17 games 1-0=1
Joona Koppanen- 15 games 0-6=6
Victor Berglund- 11 games 0-4=4


Providence

Fosbacka Karlsson- 11 games 3-4=7
Peter Cehlarik 5 games 3-3=6 currently injured
Ryan Fitzgerald- 11 games 1-3=4
Zach Senyshyn- 10 games 2-0=2
Jeremy Lauzon- 10 games 0-1=1
Jakub Zboril- 11 game 0-0=0

Included Koko since I guess a return isn’t out of the question. The blue chippers outside of the organization are Vaakanainen, Frederic and Donato.
 

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I was at the Provy game on Sunday. Holy shit were they terrible. You could tell half the team had been called up because they were completely overwhelmed. They must have spent 45 minutes in their own end.
 

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Providence has a 2-1 lead today. JFK goal and Senyshyn has an assist. Starting to see an uptick in Senyshyn’s production, 1-5=6 in the last 5 games plus a period and a half today.
 

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Can someone more informed than I am give a thumbnail as to why JFK hasn't been among the thousands of PBruins that have passed through the revolving door during the varsity's injury plague? Just a case of clear and obvious not-ready-ness?
 

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Can someone more informed than I am give a thumbnail as to why JFK hasn't been among the thousands of PBruins that have passed through the revolving door during the varsity's injury plague? Just a case of clear and obvious not-ready-ness?
I think there are a few factors. First is the salary cap. The Bruins are basically over the cap and eating into McQuaid’s LTIR. JFK has a $917K cap hits. Cehlarik is like $700K, Szwarz and Czarnik $650K. Heinen and Agostino in the $800K range. Not the main reason but probably factoring into their decision. They also probably prefer JFK get loads of ice time in Providence as opposed to 10ish min in Boston right now.

JFK also had an injury that set him back a week or two in training camp, so he was probably a bit behind early in the year when they originally got dinged by injures to Spooner, Backes part 1, Bergeron etc. JFK seems to be doing OK in Providence- 5g 5a in 15 games. Maybe he’s on the DeBrusk plan where he spends the year down there no matter what, but I think we’ll see him at some point.
 

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I think there are a few factors. First is the salary cap. The Bruins are basically over the cap and eating into McQuaid’s LTIR. JFK has a $917K cap hits. Cehlarik is like $700K, Szwarz and Czarnik $650K. Heinen and Agostino in the $800K range. Not the main reason but probably factoring into their decision. They also probably prefer JFK get loads of ice time in Providence as opposed to 10ish min in Boston right now.

JFK also had an injury that set him back a week or two in training camp, so he was probably a bit behind early in the year when they originally got dinged by injures to Spooner, Backes part 1, Bergeron etc. JFK seems to be doing OK in Providence- 5g 5a in 15 games. Maybe he’s on the DeBrusk plan where he spends the year down there no matter what, but I think we’ll see him at some point.
Given JFK is the best Center prospect they have, I love that they have given him the #1 spot down there and let him ride. I hope he plays the whole season getting something like 20 minutes a game in all situations. Moreover, I don't know that he offers much more than Czarnik or Kuraly do (or Spooner when he's back), so he's better off getting a ton of minutes.
 

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He still only just turned 21. He didn't stand out to me (good or bad) in the limited amount I saw in the preseason, but he put up really good possession numbers.

A good comparable is probably Mikael Backlund for his upside, and he was playing in the AHL at the same age. It's really hard to make the jump to the NHL as a possession driving center, especially when you're a bit undersized. I don't think half a season in the AHL is going to stunt his development. I'm still very excited about JFK.
 

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Nice night for some prospects...

JFK- goal and assist
Fitzgerald- goal and 2 assists
Donato- hat trick
Frederic- goal
Studnicka- 2 goals and 2 assists
 

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Also, Haggs checking in with a hot take. The Bruins have too many Americans. They should really draft more Canadians like Alex DeBrincat, a good Canadian boy!

 

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Nice night for some prospects...

JFK- goal and assist
Fitzgerald- goal and 2 assists
Donato- hat trick
Frederic- goal
Studnicka- 2 goals and 2 assists
Donato was flat out awesome last night. Best player on the ice. So skilled and he could probably play for the Bruins right now. There is no reason for him to go back to Harvard next season. He can get his degree in the summer and take freaking classes on off days
 

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I'm a bit disappointed by some guys in Providence despite their record, especially Senyshyn and Zbonl (no points yet!). Of course, they're only 20 and Senyshyn has played on the 4th line so there's that but still, it's a bit hard right now to envision him a future top 6 forward at this stage. I worry that he's headed toward more of a Ryan Spooner career trajectory. Also, McIntyre struggling some but maybe it's just SSS
 

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I'm a bit disappointed by some guys in Providence despite their record, especially Senyshyn and Zbonl (no points yet!). Of course, they're only 20 and Senyshyn has played on the 4th line so there's that but still, it's a bit hard right now to envision him a future top 6 forward at this stage. I worry that he's headed toward more of a Ryan Spooner career trajectory. Also, McIntyre struggling some but maybe it's just SSS
Senyshyn will take time, but in the long run I think he ends up a solid top 9 player. It will take 2-3 years though. Zboril I am less sure of, but he’s very talented and some defenseman take more time. Given their current young players on the roster I think both will get the time to develop.

Donato just keeps getting better. He makes Harvard a legit National title contender. That is a fun team to watch.
 

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I'm a bit disappointed by some guys in Providence despite their record, especially Senyshyn and Zbonl (no points yet!). Of course, they're only 20 and Senyshyn has played on the 4th line so there's that but still, it's a bit hard right now to envision him a future top 6 forward at this stage. I worry that he's headed toward more of a Ryan Spooner career trajectory. Also, McIntyre struggling some but maybe it's just SSS
Senyshyn has actually been excellent in Providence for the past month or so. He had 2 points on November 3rd and has 8 in his last 10 and the coaching staff is saying a lot of nice things about him.
 

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Senyshyn has actually been excellent in Providence for the past month or so. He had 2 points on November 3rd and has 8 in his last 10 and the coaching staff is saying a lot of nice things about him.
And he is a guy who was expected to need some AHL seasoning.
 

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Senyshyn is pretty much where DeBrusk was at this point last year. He needs to catch up to the speed of the game at this level and react quicker. He's a little behind DeBrusk in some polish on the skill set, but the raw ability is still tantalizing.
 

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Senyshyn is someone whose development probably got hurt a bit by not being able to play in the AHL last season. He got by on his physical tools in the OHL a lot of the time. I don't think any of these guys should be judged too harshly on their first 1/4 pro seasons tho, but some of the numbers aren't very encouraging.

Anyone who's watched the games, how have Zboril/Lauzon been used? Sheltered minutes? They both have the best +/- on the team among defenseman but their lack of points (1 and 2 respectively) is concerning. Yeah I know +/- is fairly useless but could tell you something if we had some data on their usage.
 

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WJC’s around the corner, prelim rosters getting announced...B’s involved:

USA- Trent Frederic, Ryan Lindgren, Jeremy Swayman

Finland- Urho Vaakanainen, Joona Koppanen

Sweden- Oskar Steen
 

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Senyshyn is someone whose development probably got hurt a bit by not being able to play in the AHL last season. He got by on his physical tools in the OHL a lot of the time. I don't think any of these guys should be judged too harshly on their first 1/4 pro seasons tho, but some of the numbers aren't very encouraging.

Anyone who's watched the games, how have Zboril/Lauzon been used? Sheltered minutes? They both have the best +/- on the team among defenseman but their lack of points (1 and 2 respectively) is concerning. Yeah I know +/- is fairly useless but could tell you something if we had some data on their usage.
Not a huge sample size since I've only been to 4 or 5 games, but sheltered seems to be a good description. Cross, Breen, and O'Gara get most of the heavy lifting minutes. Neither Zboril or Lauzon stick out right now. That's not unexpected for a 20 YO AHL rookie, but I Carlo made an immediate impact when he joined Providence. If I had to rank the D Rookies right now it would be Johansson, Lauzon, and then Zboril.
 

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I look forward to him coming back up. I don't think he was quite ready last time, but I also didn't think he was that far off. I really do feel like this team is set up really well for the future, and as dirty as it makes me feel, I have to give Jacobs credit for being patient with Sweeney.
 

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Not trying to be a buzz kill, but I don’t think Agostino is really a piece for the future. He’s already 25 and it’s usually not a good sign when you are that age and haven’t stuck in the NHL. Low risk signing, nothing wrong with it, but I think he’s an AAAA type guy. Kinda like Chris Bourque. Tears up the AHL, but can’t seem to gain traction in the NHL.
 

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2g 1a weekend for Senyshyn. Started the year with 1 goal in 8 games, since then 5g 9a in 18 games. Goals in 3 straight.
 

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They are also playing him on the PK and at the end of games. Sounds like he's coming along. We probably don't see him until mid/late next year at the earliest, and there is a real flameout possibility with him, but he seems to be coming along.
 

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They are also playing him on the PK and at the end of games. Sounds like he's coming along. We probably don't see him until mid/late next year at the earliest, and there is a real flameout possibility with him, but he seems to be coming along.
I actually think he has a pretty high floor. He's an elite skater/athlete and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Dan Paille was a useful player with those 2 things and absolutely nothing else. Obviously you want a lot more than that from a 1st rounder, but I don't think it's very likely he'll be a complete flameout.