Week 7 Game Thread
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Dalton throws the ball away on 4th down, while rolling out and no one near him. That's good QBing right there Andy.
I have not broken it down frame by frame, but the replays suggest the defender comes down in possession. Thus, Richardson's foot is irrelevant.
It was never simultaneous possession, at least not by time defender touched the ground. I thought live it was simultaneous possession (and thus a TD) but on replay it seemed very clear it was not...Richardson had fully lost control of ball before he touched down, and defender had it.
The announcer (Romo I think) seemed to think that was a call by the upback because no one was covering the WR and he has the ability to check to the fake if he gets the right look. I would guess that's pretty standard.
PATRICK Chung agrees?
Eugene might too, but that's kind of irrelevant (like he is)
Every single team in the NFL this year is fraudulent. Will probably make for some very good late season drama, but boy am I struggling to watch more than 15 minutes of non-Patriots matchups.
Sure. My point applies to him too. It was a nice play, I would have saved it for a better situation.
This strikes me as kinda silly. The only thing anyone learned is that if they don't cover the split end on the punt team at all, the team might throw to him. Well, duh.
There was a time, a few years ago, when I defended Andy Dalton and called him a "top-half-of-the-league quarterback".
I have caught more than my share of shit for a few things I've said; that was one of the times where I caught far less shit than I should have.
You may be right about that on both counts.
Hopefully they are building something and this is just a "redshirt" year. My wife is a really big 49ers fan.
You know you are a bad QB when your QB rating is below your completion percentage, DeShone Kizer.
How about zero Week 8 matchups pairing teams with winning records?
There are a couple teams - thinking LAR, JAX - that are surprising and might be on their way to being really good, but unless you have Sunday Ticket a lot of people haven't really seen them yet. NE and PIT have the pieces to be better later. PHL has seemed pretty complete to me since Week 1 but they've played some bad teams close.
Overall, though, the league is pretty uninspiring. Where's the team that's just a pleasure to watch on either side of the ball? Hard to believe but the Rams offense might be the closest thing.
And I was about to say we had a game without a felony committed by Burfict. Par for the course for that shithead.
Try to rank the quarterbacks and you won’t be so hard on yourself. If you just go by current level of play (so guys like Trubisky are lower) he’s on the borderline. The QB situation is not good.
That's a great punt. But the thing that stands out to me is how embarrassingly empty that stadium is. It looks like a D3 college team getting blown out, but it's an NFL team on their way to a big shut out division win.
There were a ton of Broncos fans who left once it was a blowout. But that's not good either.
Two random observations:
1) Through week 7, your conference leaders in point margin are the Jacksonville Jaguars and the LA Rams, and neither race is particularly close
2) Just me, or has there been a LOT less pink this October?
1) Through week 7, your conference leaders in point margin are the Jacksonville Jaguars and the LA Rams, and neither race is particularly close
2) Just me, or has there been a LOT less pink this October?
They are 5 and 2 for freaking sakes. Even before last night, the D had shown signs of improvement. Let's let the season play out before calling it a waste. I mean they won the Super Bowl last year whereas Denver has missed the playoffs 2 straight years. Big difference.
This is correct and I think the league really screwed itself over when it decided to emphasize the QB situation where there aren't 32 people in the world who can play the position.
I mean if you take away Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, and Rivers - the last of the old guard - who is the best active QB in the NFL. Wilson? It's hard to say that given his OL. Wentz?
The NFL has terrible OL play and a dearth of starting QBs. That's a pretty bad combo for a passing driven league.
This is a good point. While Rodgers will likely play another 5+ years, I could see Ben, Brady, and Brees all retired by 2020 ish. Rivers too. While that gives the league a few years to develop QBs, it doesn't look promising at this point, unless the 2018 class is as special as it is being touted.
I don't think there's a dearth of QBs in an absolute sense, only a relative one. Someone has to be the 24th-best QB in the league and that team is going to go 6-10 or whatever. You will never have 32 desirable QBs because that will just move the bar on what performance is considered desirable.
FWIW, I think there are a small number of Brady / Rodgers (really, maybe just Brady and Rodgers) who can be excellent with a good supporting cast and still pretty good with a weak one, and a bunch of guys who can be good with a good supporting cast and bad with a bad one. We've seen the performance of guys like Alex Smith, Palmer, Dalton, Newton, Ryan, Kaepernick, Flacco, Carr, Goff vacillate pretty wildly between near-MVP and near-unplayable depending on what they have around them. I think if you look at the league's QB situation relative to 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago, you might find a little less top-end talent but I think a little less bottom-end talent too. 10 years ago you had prime Brady / Manning / Brees / Roethlisberger / Romo and end-of-career Favre / Warner, but you also had dudes like Cleo Lemon, Kellen Clemens, Joey Harrington, Trent Edwards, Brodie Croyle, and Rex Grossman starting games.
EDIT: oh and Kyle Boller
By the way, this season has been pretty amazing so far from a hated team / schadenfreude perspective.
Jets: possibly winning too much to secure one of the top picks
Ravens: have lost 4 out of 5, Flacco sucks, yet another non-playoff season for the genius Ozzie and one of the supposedly top 3-4 coaches in Harbaugh
Colts: have only beaten the winless Niners and winless Browns, by 3 points each; their -103 point differential is 37 points worse than Cleveland's and 40 points worse than SF's despite actually having two more victories
Denver: back to back losses, pissing away another season of their unreal D; only Miami, Cincy, and Cleveland have scored fewer points
Giants: 1-6, headed toward picking a QB and kicking Eli to the curb; bonus points for Brandon Marshall not going to the playoffs yet again
No real LOL's for the Steelers (aside from the Ben 5 pick game against Jacksonville), but it's a pretty good list.
Jets: possibly winning too much to secure one of the top picks
Ravens: have lost 4 out of 5, Flacco sucks, yet another non-playoff season for the genius Ozzie and one of the supposedly top 3-4 coaches in Harbaugh
Colts: have only beaten the winless Niners and winless Browns, by 3 points each; their -103 point differential is 37 points worse than Cleveland's and 40 points worse than SF's despite actually having two more victories
Denver: back to back losses, pissing away another season of their unreal D; only Miami, Cincy, and Cleveland have scored fewer points
Giants: 1-6, headed toward picking a QB and kicking Eli to the curb; bonus points for Brandon Marshall not going to the playoffs yet again
No real LOL's for the Steelers (aside from the Ben 5 pick game against Jacksonville), but it's a pretty good list.
He was never that highly rated around here, at least, mostly due to his volume-driven counting stats and propensity for INTs that never really went down as he grew into the league. He's an above-average thrower of NFL footballs but may in fact be an average QB overall. But his dead cap right now is $41.6M and the next 3 years is $22.2, $12.8 and $6.4, so you'd have to bet on him riding it out through 2018, probably 2019, barring a major deterioration in skills rather than just a lack of further improvement.
The team is terrible and heavily invested in Luck, though, so my bet is that Brissett is just showcasing himself for another trade this year, or worse, may end up being the "backup QB that TV / radio pundits are always calling to start over the starter" for another 2 years until FA. Poor guy. His team and coaching situation simply doesn't give him a reasonable chance at pulling a Brady-over-Bledsoe type feat.
Luck may be on his way to Jim Plunkett 2.0. Both had the crap beat out of them. Both had teams with significant deficiencies supporting them. I hope not for Luck's sake, but that's the way recent years are trending. On the plus side, Plunkett eventually found success with the Raiders.
I think you guys are painting an overly dire picture.
The current top-10 in TDs thrown includes: Deshaun Watson (tied-1rst), Dak Prescott, Wentz, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson. Things look funny when they're cast in the light of a golden age, but there are some very promising QBs already doing good work out there.
The current top-10 in TDs thrown includes: Deshaun Watson (tied-1rst), Dak Prescott, Wentz, Derek Carr, Russell Wilson. Things look funny when they're cast in the light of a golden age, but there are some very promising QBs already doing good work out there.
Man, if only someone who doesn't even know that much about football had been saying Luck sucks for years.
Extra bonus points for Marshall... the Jets have more victories and might be playing meaningful games later into the year.
The NFL will just never learn. The ratings are down because of ticky tack fouls that make this game unwatchable. Four penatlies, and technically, the Eagles have not run an offensive play yet.
The Skins players wearing yellow gloves are messing with me. I assume it's a flag every time I see them.