Yeah, part of my "hope" is them realizing Khudobin is a below replacement level goalie
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Given McIntyre and Subban were beyond awful last year, I don't know if they have much of a choice.
He was, .930 save percentage in Providence. But he put up .850 for the Bruins last year.
Khuodobin was bad but still .904, seeing as his contract is guaranteed, it makes sense to give the young guys a bit more seasoning. The stats said he was ready but he was really bad in Boston last year.
I'd be happy with a 2yr/$3m compromise, I really don't see either side budging enough though. I think they're both fairly unreasonable in their assessment of his value
In Sunday's Hockey Notes in the Globe, Fluto explicitly mentions that the B's could walk away from the arb award and let Spooner become a UFA.
I would hope they wouldn't walk away. Unless I'm completely out to lunch on player value, there has to be some team out there that would give the Bruins something for Spooner in a trade, right?
According to Elliot Friedman and some knowledgeable folks at HF boards (yes there are some) the walk away provision escalates just like RFA compensation tables and the salary cap in general.
Apparently last year the walk away amount was 3.9 so 4M this year would make sense.
Wonder if that was part of the reasoning for Spoons to ask for 3.85, eliminate the possibility of winning an award that could be walked away from.
Apparently last year the walk away amount was 3.9 so 4M this year would make sense.
Wonder if that was part of the reasoning for Spoons to ask for 3.85, eliminate the possibility of winning an award that could be walked away from.
Right you are - on the very next page, it's clarified that the $3.5m escalates by the same % as increase in Annual League Salary
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As of tonight, they have about $13M in cap space with Pastrnak still unsigned. The D are basically set except for maybe a 6th/7th LHD to sit in the press box most nights. If they choose to go young, they're all set, but if they want to get a decent Stafford-esque depth winger, it looks like it will be a bit tight.
Sweeney says Pastrnak talks aren't as far a long and they'd like. It'd be nice to not have this drag out much longer. Other than heading into the last lockout with Seguin, Marchand and Lucic, these deals never seem to go smoothly for the Bruins.
I suppose if he's demanding a Johansen type package that may cause some consternation. I figure he's more likely to get around $7m a year the way these RFA negotiations are going, and the Bruins may be trying to hold the line at $6-6.5m. Regardless, they have to sign him, so as long as they do I won't be bitter. Camp doesn't open until September 14th, so they have some time.
J.P. Barry isn't an idiot, and he knows that Sweeney's boss is a reactionary fool. It makes no sense for him to make a deal now unless the team massively overpays. When we get into September and the PR heat gets turned up on the team and Barry's client starts worrying about missing game checks, someone will blink.
I would as well. Tarasenko got 8-$60, Johansen got 8-$64. I wouldn't have a problem with that. The agent is probably seeing how far the team will go. If he can set the bar higher for future clients he will. There is zero pressure on Barry to make a deal right now, and with the team's history of losing players in this situation, the PR pressure is all on them.
I still think the hold up here is lock out protection. Jacobs is the last owner that is going to sign off on a signing bonus heavy deal for big dollars with a labor negotiation looming. Marchand and Bergeron both have signing bonus heavy deals that very unsurprisingly drop down to $1mil in 2021 when we can expect another lockout. Many of the deals signed this offseason were very heavily weighted towards bonus payout instead of salary and I would guess JP Barry wants that. 8 years $54 mil but all of it structured as bonus gives Pasta a lot of safety net that I can't see the Bruins ownership signing off on.
If that's what's holding this up then their going to have a hell of a time trying to sign McAvoy in 2020.
Wow!! If Jacobs is already playing hardball around a lockout that is still 4+ years in the future (something he has a history of doing; and screwing the team in the process), then this is guaranteed to get very ugly. Not only for Pasta, but, as noted, for other UFA/RFA's as well. Remember that it took the team several years to recover from the 2004 lockout, and indirectly resulted in Joe Thornton being traded for table scraps.
Conversely, they blew the SCF the year after the last lockout, which could also be seen relatively far in advance.
I just think it means he will want minimal guarantees for that season in terms of bonus payout. I don't think we're talking sea change, just won't want to guarantee $7mil in a year where there might not be hockey.
I'm a casual Bruins fan, and don't really follow the offseason at all. Have the Bruins made any real attempts to get better since the end of the season?
Yes, they just haven't made any big or splashy moves because there are a bunch of kids down in Providence that hopefully pan out over the next couple of years.
They're developing young players. If guys like McAvoy, Carlo & Pastrnak take the next step, they will be better. It's a long process and the worst thing that they could do is sign or trade for mid level veterans that may provide a small improvement next year but would block the development of younger, higher upside players. They're in a holding pattern with the Pastrnak contract right now, but that should get resolved after camp starts and both sides are motivated to get it done. It's a young mans' league right now, and I think they're doing the right thing by building it this way and not signing another Belesky type in free agency.
Not spending on mid-level free agents in the summer also gives the Bruins a chance to assess what they have in their youth over the first half of the season -- and leaves cap space for picking up a veteran or two with needed skills at the trade deadline.
You're saying a guy that works for the NHL network is taking eklund rumors and running with them?
Well, Eklund posted this 3 hours before Lawton did. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Lawton has a credible track record as an "insider."
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Why wouldn't the agent float that out there to put public pressure on the Bruins to up their offer. Shit Felger & Mazz are already hammering him like he's already gone given their track record. It's the obvious play.
Agreed re: Pastrnak's agent being the source of this. In the end, the tea leaves all point to lockout protection / signing bonus % being the sticking point, which I can't blame Barry/Pastrnak on... or Sweeney for that matter.
Yeah, this is my read of it as well. It's a story planted by the agent to drive up pressure on the Bruins. I'm sure that will go over well with Jacobs, et al, who are just dying to find a way to screw this up as they have many times in the past.
They just brought him on their grow-the-game trip to China. I can't imagine them doing that if there was any sort of tension or animosity built up between him and the team over the contract. I understand the angst over this not being done yet, but I don't think it is time to panic.
Sweeney: "Not trading Pastrnak"
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/08/15/don-sweeney-says-isn-trading-david-pastrnak/Mw1jg5AzPkE0e6PEVik5eN/amp.html
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/08/15/don-sweeney-says-isn-trading-david-pastrnak/Mw1jg5AzPkE0e6PEVik5eN/amp.html
In other news, Dave Goucher is leaving the B's and becoming the TV PbP for the Golden Knights. Awesome for him, really sucks for us. Goucher is excellent. The Sheriff will be his partner in Vegas.
He'll always have his great calls on the B's winning and the Bergeron Leafs OT goal.
On a separate note, him doing PBP on the diarrhea scene in Dumb & Dumber on T&R like 5 years ago almost made me drive off the road.
On a separate note, him doing PBP on the diarrhea scene in Dumb & Dumber on T&R like 5 years ago almost made me drive off the road.
Bergeron! Bergeron! still gives me chills and I didn't even hear it live because I was at the game. /humblebrag
This made me happy.
Goucher leaving does not. Sad day for us, but good for him. He's great at what he does and hopefully he gets some national exposure there.
Well. Edmonton just signed Leon Draisaitl to an 8 year deal at AAV of $8.5 million.
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4249797
Where does Pastrnak figure to land based on that?
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4249797
Where does Pastrnak figure to land based on that?