2017 Celtics Offseason: News and General Discussion
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There was a rumor that Glen Rice bedded Sarah Palin while he was playing at a tourney in Alaska with Michigan.
http://deadspin.com/5841835/all-the-details-of-the-sarah-palin-glen-rice-coitus-youve-been-waiting-for
http://deadspin.com/5841835/all-the-details-of-the-sarah-palin-glen-rice-coitus-youve-been-waiting-for
I laughed at this comment on the article: "This gives new meaning to white on Rice."
Holy hell is that funny. I mean even the comments are funny and for the internet that is truly amazing.
Glen played for the Heat, Hornets, Lakers, Knicks, Rockets, and Clippers...
But to Sarah he was always a Maverick.
But to Sarah he was always a Maverick.
I agree with everything you are saying here (to be clear, I am squarely on Team Kelly (not Oubre)). Furthermore, I agree with the points that emulating the Warriors without a Draymond Green, and now a Kevin Durant, isn't a great strategy.
That said, its pretty clear by their personnel choices that Ainge, Stevens et al do indeed value guarding the arc (as wbcd points out) over all else. sox311 also points out that the Celtics appear to be coached to get back quickly rather than follow their shot. The guys best equipped to do this are players who are playing further away from the paint or wings/hybrids.
The fascinating thing about this is that the Celtics are attempting to do this without either an all world three point scorer (though a healthy, peak Thomas sniffs that air and Hayward can also breathe there too) and an all world defender. The outcome will be very telling for Boston's future title hopes.
I'm also an Olynyk fan and sorry to see him go. And I'm not predicting doom for their new approach. Just noting that it is quite a departure from what they have done previously.
No, this is not correct. The Celtics picked up the team option in 2019-20 which was a Non-Guaranteed Team Option for the purpose of spreading out the minimal dollars out over a greater number of years to limit the cap hit. Demetrius really made out here for being in the right place at the right time which was the reason for my Joe Kleine analogy......like a baby Bobby Bonilla deal.
It's exactly correct, he had $650k guaranteed for the 2018 season regardless. He was always getting that money. But by picking up the options on the non-guaranteed seasons Boston got to spread his cap hit out to seven years in the waive & stretch thus saving approximately $560k on the 2017 cap and giving them the freedom to ink Semi Ojeleye to a four year deal rather than a two year one.
Yes the 2018-19 was guaranteed. The Celtics picked up the 2019-20 team option so he is being paid for that season as well now due to the stretch provision benefit to the Celtics. He isn't going to be playing for the Celtics, or likely anyone in the NBA for that matter, in 2019-20 but will now be getting paid by us to not play.
I'm aware of all this, you were correcting me where no correction was necessary because I said that he was guaranteed $650k, but by picking up the options Boston minimized the cap implications of waiving Jackson.
And Boston won't be paying Jackson in 2020, they're required to pay him his guaranteed 2017 salary when they waive him, but for the purposes of calculating cap space Jackson now counts for ≈ $93k for the next seven years rather than $650k in 2017.
I don't believe this is correct. They picked up the option on a non-guaranteed year, but then cut him before it became guaranteed. So they're still only paying him 650k, they just get to spread it out over more years. Hence the $93k/year thing quoted above (93k*7=650k).
Kadeem Allen signed to 2-way contract. His defense didn't look as advertised in SL but why not.
Wonder what is going on with Bird.
Wonder what is going on with Bird.
Celtics just signed PG Shane Larkin from Europe. This could mean IT won't be ready at the start of the season and probably means Bird is not getting a 2-way contract.
Interesting. Only one roster spot left, and I had assumed that was going to Yabusele. If IT's out for a significant period of time, Smart and Rozier isn't going to cut it for depth at PG, and apparently Larkin's leaving 6.3 million on the table to leave the ACB, so he must feel comfortable that he'll get playing time.
Interesting. Larkin is opting out of a two-year, $6.3M contract. If Yabu is coming to the States, that means that Larkin is signing for the minimum. But if they've convinced Yabu to spend one more year overseas, I guess they have some cap space. Larkin's former coach at the U was Jim Larranaga.
Highlights:
BTW, Adam Kaufman reporting that this is just a camp deal. That doesn't seem possible given the contract from which Larkin opted-out but will be interested in seeing how this shakes out.
"#Celtics have plenty of guard depth. Shane Larkin's a training camp invite, likely little else. He'll get a cursory look, wind up elsewhere."
"#Celtics have plenty of guard depth. Shane Larkin's a training camp invite, likely little else. He'll get a cursory look, wind up elsewhere."
Weird if it's just a camp deal. Surprised Larkin would cut himself out of money that way, unless he's got a standing agreement to go back if things don't work out.
Larkin ain't great shakes, but he's only 24, a good passer, and sure as shit a better shooter from the field than Rozier or Marcus. Don't think this is sufficient to assume Isaiah will miss substantial time, onky that the team would like a bench ball handler who can both distribute and actually score a little.
Larkin ain't great shakes, but he's only 24, a good passer, and sure as shit a better shooter from the field than Rozier or Marcus. Don't think this is sufficient to assume Isaiah will miss substantial time, onky that the team would like a bench ball handler who can both distribute and actually score a little.
Shane Larkin sounds like a very familiar name. I want to say that a Shane Larkin played as a shortstop for the Reds, but a google search brings nothing. Who am I thinking of?
Yeah, did he really pass up $6.3M? That would be incredibly stupid unless he has an option to go back and get something close to that.
He's the son of Barry.
Shane's uncle Byron played hoops at Xavier in the mid-1980s and became the school's career scoring leader,
"Shane Larkin confirms that he has joined the Boston Celtics on a one-year deal. He explained his decision via text message:
“I am extremely excited about joining the Boston Celtics. After talking with Danny Ainge on the phone and hearing what he envisions for me, I knew that it was a great opportunity to continue to grow as a player and eventually become the guy I’m supposed to be in this league"."
Doesn't sound like he thinks he's a camp body. Very interesting.
It must be Barry Larkin; Barry doesn't ring a bell at all, but since he did play as a shortstop for the Reds at a time I was following baseball means that's him. Thanks.
You do realize that Barry Larkin is a Hall of Famer who also won a World Series ring with the 1990 Reds.
Jackson is not being paid anything for the 19-20 team option is my understanding. They picked it up, non-guaranteed on the money, purely so they could use the years to lessen the stretch.
However, you nailed it on the "Stevens will not play a role in Hayward's decision", so I'll defer to you here.
Really interested to see Yabusele against NBA guys. Feel like he's kind of under the radar right now, which is probably good for his development.
In the "it will never happen" category.....
IT, Crowder, Morris, and the Lakers pick for Kyrie?
IT, Crowder, Morris, and the Lakers pick for Kyrie?
Is this a joke? IT is better than Kyrie. Crowder is not far behind Kyrie. I wouldn't do the Lakers pick for Kyrie. Off the top of my head here are better point guards than Kyrie Irving:
Curry
Harden
Paul
Lillard
Lowry
IT
Westbrook
Wall
Wow. Irving is 25 years old. I would trade IT+ or the Lakers pick+ for him in a cocaine heartbeat.
For what it's worth, I think it's pretty close between Kyrie and IT.
The difference is that Kyrie's going to be entering his prime in a year or two and IT's prime may well be behind him given his age and hip injury.
Otherwise, they're remarkably similar players. All the way down to the fact that they're terrible defensively.
The difference is that Kyrie's going to be entering his prime in a year or two and IT's prime may well be behind him given his age and hip injury.
Otherwise, they're remarkably similar players. All the way down to the fact that they're terrible defensively.
I love IT as much as the next C's fan, but to say it's a joke to think Kyrie is better is very strong especially when taking the long-term future into account. Kyrie is much younger and both player's offensive statistics from traditional and advanced angles are very, very close. Kyrie has the next 2 years at a very good contract numbers even after factoring in a 15% trade kicker(almost $21 million in 2017 and $24 million in 2018) before almost assuredly declining his player option for 2021.
Kyrie is better. However, if you look at the stats from last season, they are all in IT's favor by a pretty wide margin. Win Shares, Plus/Minus, VORP, Usage, PER- all IT. I doubt IT for Kyrie happens but if we're just going by stats from last season only as the metric, IT has the edge.
Which fits in perfectly....
Get Kyrie and Larry Fitzgerald and let's go to war!
Kyrie has never had a year as good as Isaiah's last year and he's never shown he can be the #1 option on a winning team. Yeah you'd trade IT for Kyrie right now because of the age and contract going forward, but I'm not sure what he's done to prove he's "better" than Isaiah.