Bruins Offseason

The Napkin

wise ass al kaprielian
Moderator
SoSH Member
Jul 13, 2002
28,534
right here
How much you willing to throw down on the tables with all that Amazon ad money you Mods get?
Hmm. We just booked the Tahiti conference so funds are a little low right now. Little over 3 months? Should be good to go for the 5k tables by then...

There are a few of us with tickets already booked for Friday <> Monday

Motion to force Nap to go to the game rocking a powder blue Pens jersey
Yeah, if I go it'll probably Fri-Mon as well if not a day or 2 earlier. I've never been so want to have a day or 3 to make a trip or two if I want.
And those jerseys are awesome.
 

burstnbloom

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 12, 2005
2,761
Renaud Lavoie‏ @renlavoietva
I'm told the @NHLBruins are trying to get Marco Scandella. They are not alone. #tvasports


I wouldn't hate this depending on the price. He's a big LH shot D who is kind of ok on both ends. He is a decent skater so I think he'd be a good pair with McAvoy. Also, good news for him, number 6 recently became available.
 

veritas

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 13, 2009
3,151
Somerville, MA
I'd trade the 1st and 2nd in a heartbeat if the Wild took Beleskey back. Not sure if Minnesota is more concerned with future assets or cutting salary though. If it's the latter that wouldn't help them.
 

burstnbloom

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 12, 2005
2,761
The salary scares me too if they don't move McQuaid of Miller in a separate deal. I look at it this way, if the blue line gets crowded and some kid knocks Scandella out of a job over the next year or so, there is still equity in him since he's still in his prime and can skate in the new NHL. There are always teams that need D.
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
8,232
Falmouth
Hmm. We just booked the Tahiti conference so funds are a little low right now. Little over 3 months? Should be good to go for the 5k tables by then...


Yeah, if I go it'll probably Fri-Mon as well if not a day or 2 earlier. I've never been so want to have a day or 3 to make a trip or two if I want.
And those jerseys are awesome.
3 nights is more than enough.
 

RedOctober3829

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 19, 2005
55,298
deep inside Guido territory
Just looking at the schedule. Looks like the Black Friday matinee is back and may be the NBC game as they host Pittsburgh at 1 pm. Another schedule quirk is they play Montreal 3 times in a week in January. They also go out west twice in the first 4 weeks of the year.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
The NHL's legal tampering period opens today. It's a pretty crappy UFA class.

UFA LHD's that the Bruins could be interested in- Dimitry Kulikov, Brendan Smith, Michael Del Zotto.

At forward, I think they may just kick the tires on a Stafford type veteran winger. Someone they can plug in on the 3rd/4th line but move up the lineup if needed. Maybe Iginla makes some sense in that role. Patrick Sharp would be intriguing too, but more pricey.

Part of me thinks that if the Bruins strike out on the trade market for a LHD that they use some assets to trade for a more established forward. Duchene is still in COL and there have been Evander Kane rumblings. Might be worth exploring.
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
I suppose I could see them signing a cheap veteran around $1m a year for depth, but don't expect any big moves. USA Today has the Bruins making a run at Shattenkirk, but with McAvoy looking like a stud that would be a waste of cap space. Smith could intrigue me on a reasonable deal, but have to imagine Reilly's souring on Boston would make that a long shot. I could also see them kicking the tires on Vrbata on a 1 year deal, but suspect someone will give him multiple years and will probably return to the desert.

Alzner is a potential fit on the ice, but someone will overpay him and I hope that isn't Boston. Kulikov is interesting as a reclamation project, bu Del Zotto I wouldn't go near.

I doubt they do anything of significance, but I suppose that depends on how they feel about their younger defensman, and players like Bjork and DeBrusk filling a top 6 role.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Yeah, that USA Today article was pretty lazy. The Bruins have ~$13.5mm in cap space. There's no way they can fit Shattenkirk in along with a Pastrnak extension. Not to mention Shattenkirk doesn't really fit in positionally. I guess never say never, but I can't see it happening unless the Bruins move out Beleskey, Hayes and McQuaid.

I actually like MDZ more than Alzner, but both will probably be too pricey on the FA market. I don't think the door is shut on prying a D out of Minny. They have Nino and Granlund to sign, so maybe Scandella shakes loose at some point. The Bruins were telling everyone who would listen that they were trying to trade 18 for a D at the draft but couldn't find a taker. Maybe they can work something out either with Minny or someone else.

As for forwards- I think I'd like a cheap vet as a hedge for the kids. Maybe that's bringing Stafford or Iginla back. Someone that they could play on the 3rd/4th line or jump up to the top 6 if needed. Vanek intrigues me a bit, but I think he has a good enough season to get a multi-year deal at decent money.
 

veritas

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 13, 2009
3,151
Somerville, MA
I'd love to see them add a middle 6 forward but they have way too many on the roster at the moment. Including qualified RFAs they have 13 F not counting Bjork/Heinen/Senyshyn/DeBrusk. They really need to make some moves at F if they plan on playing any of the kids
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Conroy says the B's have reached out to Trevor Daley's camp.


LHD, but not sure I'm too enthused about this idea. A qucik glance showed some troubling numbers last season and he's getting older.
 

BigMike

Moderator
Moderator
SoSH Member
Sep 26, 2000
23,244
Conroy says the B's have reached out to Trevor Daley's camp.


LHD, but not sure I'm too enthused about this idea. A qucik glance showed some troubling numbers last season and he's getting older.
I remain baffled by where they are focusing their energy.

There is precious little money available, an they seem intent on spending all they have on a 3rd pairing LHD.

They must really believe in Bjork (and or Heinen/Debrusk)
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
I remain baffled by where they are focusing their energy.

There is precious little money available, an they seem intent on spending all they have on a 3rd pairing LHD.

They must really believe in Bjork (and or Heinen/Debrusk)
While I am not a big fan of Daley and their desire to add a LHD with McQuaid still on the roster eating up cap space, I am a believer in Bjork. Really looking forward to seeing him play this year and hope he can play well.

I'd rather they just add a depth defenseman like Liles or someone similar than spending money on Daley, Del Zotto, etc.
 

veritas

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 13, 2009
3,151
Somerville, MA
McQuaid is a fine bottom pairing defenseman and right now their #6. Spending any significant money on a free agent is presumably going to make one of them a pretty expensive healthy scratch. With so many young unknown quantities, this is a year they should be saving some cap space for flexibility addressing needs midseason.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Some Bruin rumors this morning...

Still chatting with the Wild, presumably about a D. Scandella seems to be the most common name.


They also appear to still be in on Daley. I'm not a fan. Give me a Wild D.


Also, the first buyout window closes tomorrow so anyone without an NMC getting bought out would need to be on waivers today. I'd prefer to bury the salary as opposed to buying him out, but Hayes is a buyout candidate.
 

RedOctober3829

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 19, 2005
55,298
deep inside Guido territory
Apparently Pierre McGuire was on TSN in Montreal and said he expects Shattenkirk to sign with the Bruins. I would hate that so much. He's not going to be work the price or term it's going to require to sign him. They'd have to move some money around to afford him and make other improvements too. This would be a horrible decision by Sweeney.
 

burstnbloom

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 12, 2005
2,761
It's as if he went into last offseason knowing he needed a RHD and hasn't been able to flip that switch off.

LHD - Chara, Krug
RHD, Charlie, Carlo, Miller, McQuaid and now Shattenkirk?

If they sign him and Pasta, there is literally no cap space left for anything else. I think he's a really good player and I like him despite his warts, but what are we doing here?
 

veritas

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 13, 2009
3,151
Somerville, MA
If they're acquiring a D they must be trading a D. Pure speculation here, but maybe they kept Kevan Miller over Colin purely as a more valuable future trade piece. It seems crazy to me but they have a better idea of market value of their players than we do. People scratched their heads when the Blues protected Reaves and then look what happened.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Shattenkirk isn't happening unless they unload a ton of money. Beleskey, Hayes and McQuaid would all need to go at a minimum. It doesn't seem like that is happening. I'd certainly take him, but there's too many moving parts.

I've been trying to figure out a Minny trade. I think a 3rd team is needed. The B's and Minny have roughly the same amount of cap space to work with, but Minny has Granlund and Niederreiter to deal with as RFA's. I'm guessing part of Minny's objective is to clear room to sign both. I'm not sure they'd be interested in taking money back. The Bruins have futures to offer, but absorbing a $4mm Scandella or $4.2mm Brodin leaves the Bruins with a cluttered roster and ~$8 million for Pastrnak, Spooner and any other adds.
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
Apparently Pierre McGuire was on TSN in Montreal and said he expects Shattenkirk to sign with the Bruins. I would hate that so much. He's not going to be work the price or term it's going to require to sign him. They'd have to move some money around to afford him and make other improvements too. This would be a horrible decision by Sweeney.
I really wonder what his market is, and with the Rangers signing Smith I am curious as to whether that takes them out of the running. This would leave Tampa as the front runner with not much else out there for him. The Rangers were the front runners initially, IMO.

My gut is this is the agent trying to create a competition that isn't there. I just don't see how he's a fit, especially at that cost.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Friedman just posted an article that says Daley to Detroit (and Girardi to TB) appear to be done. Bullet hopefully dodged on both.

He also Buffalo is in the lead for Shattenkirk.
 

jk333

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 26, 2009
4,323
Boston
I would sign him at something like 5/30. Then sell high on Carlo.

Finally, unload salary via Backes or Beleskey with assets somehow. If you sign him, there's gotta be a major move to follow.
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
I would sign him at something like 5/30. Then sell high on Carlo.

Finally, unload salary via Backes or Beleskey with assets somehow. If you sign him, there's gotta be a major move to follow.
He rejected (allegedly) a 6 year deal for $42m from Tampa, which scuttled the trade. Have to think Buffalo is at least there and may end 7/$49m to get him to go there. Don't think that deal For $30m even is considered by Shattenkirk.

Still, your idea made me think. If they could somehow shed Belesky and McQuaid or Miller, then I could get behind it. Moving Backes would create more, but there are too many variables there and I don't think Sweeney is capable of such a master stroke. Trading Carlo would be tricky as well, as they would need to get help up front.

I also just reminded myself it was Pierre McGuire promulgating the rumor, so his basis is because Cassidy coached Kevin's brother's girlfriend's brother in Kowloops juniors, so Kevin is more open because Shattenkirk's aunt's husband's best friend from Lewiston thinks that's an important trait.
 

Dropkick Izzy

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 28, 2003
5,978
Miltappan
I also just reminded myself it was Pierre McGuire promulgating the rumor, so his basis is because Cassidy coached Kevin's brother's girlfriend's brother in Kowloops juniors, so Kevin is more open because Shattenkirk's aunt's husband's best friend from Lewiston thinks that's an important trait.
 

McDrew

Set Adrift on Memory Bliss
SoSH Member
Apr 11, 2006
4,060
Portland, OR
I also just reminded myself it was Pierre McGuire promulgating the rumor, so his basis is because Cassidy coached Kevin's brother's girlfriend's brother in Kowloops juniors, so Kevin is more open because Shattenkirk's aunt's husband's best friend from Lewiston thinks that's an important trait.
But are the rumors that he passed out at 31 flavors last night also true?
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Sweeney says Liles, Moore and Stafford are likely leaving, but they have kept in touch with Stafford.

He also says the plan is to enter the year with ~3 million in cap space. $12.7 million in space at the moment with Pastrnak and Spooner to sign.

Edit: Sounds like it's going to be a quiet summer.

 
Last edited:

Jed Zeppelin

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2008
51,289
Sweeney says Liles, Moore and Stafford are likely leaving, but they have kept in touch with Stafford.

He also says the plan is to enter the year with ~3 million in cap space. $12.7 million in space at the moment with Pastrnak and Spooner to sign.

Edit: Sounds like it's going to be a quiet summer.

My god, is it...learning?
 

burstnbloom

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 12, 2005
2,761
It really does feel like Sweeney has to make use of some of these assets for SOMETHING this offseason to mitigate the risk of the logjam lowering their value. Granted, none of the forward and D prospects are going to bring a huge star to Boston but I would think it's time to choose the 3 or 4 you really like at each position and consider bundling the others for an upgrade before the bloom is off the rose. Right now it doesn't feel like many of the B's prospects are going to flame out, but logic dictates that many of them will. I worry that keeping such a big load of them allows for time to sneak in and lower their value.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
I think they're still in a spot where they can hoard prospects. There may be a crunch after next season where it'll make sense to move a few, but right now I think they are in "throw shit at the wall, see what sticks" mode with the prospects. A lot of them will just be starting their pro careers this season, so I don't see much harm in letting it play out and then evaluating who to keep and who to trade.
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
It really does feel like Sweeney has to make use of some of these assets for SOMETHING this offseason to mitigate the risk of the logjam lowering their value. Granted, none of the forward and D prospects are going to bring a huge star to Boston but I would think it's time to choose the 3 or 4 you really like at each position and consider bundling the others for an upgrade before the bloom is off the rose. Right now it doesn't feel like many of the B's prospects are going to flame out, but logic dictates that many of them will. I worry that keeping such a big load of them allows for time to sneak in and lower their value.
There are some prospects and young players they should shop, like Zboril, Spooner, and maybe some others, but I'd like to see guys like Senyshyn, Lauzon, et al play in Providence for a bit before I'd be open to them being trade fodder.
 

FL4WL3SS

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2006
14,913
Andy Brickley's potty mouth
There are some prospects and young players they should shop, like Zboril, Spooner, and maybe some others, but I'd like to see guys like Senyshyn, Lauzon, et al play in Providence for a bit before I'd be open to them being trade fodder.
I would agree on Spooner, but Zboril is still young, I don't mind them risking him flaming out and being worthless. The reward is greater than the risk.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
Postma and Agostino are it for the B's today. Sweeney says they're in contact with a few vets that asked to wait a bit and make a decision in the next few days.
 

Jordu

Member
SoSH Member
Apr 30, 2003
8,961
Brookline
Postma and Agostino are it for the B's today. Sweeney says they're in contact with a few vets that asked to wait a bit and make a decision in the next few days.
The Postma signing looks like a depth signing to me -- no one in the front office forgets they had to go ten D men deep in last year's playoffs.

At the moment, the path is open for O'Gara or Grzelcyk to make the club as a third-pairing defenseman.

Boy, it'll be fun to see what Agostino does in camp and the pre-season, and I hope his signing lights a fire under a few winger's asses to step up their games.
 

cshea

Member
SoSH Member
Nov 15, 2006
36,047
306, row 14
I guess the Bruins have been quietly in the Duchene talks. It's mostly been rumored that CBJ and NSH have been the main players, but I guess it was mentioned on TSN and Sportsnet yesterday. CBJ beat writer tweeted today that the B's sre involved, and Carlo would be the centerpiece in any deal. Something to keep an eye on.


I don't know that I'd do much more than Carlo, but I'd think about something around Carlo for Duchene.
 

TheRealness

Member
SoSH Member
Feb 8, 2006
11,694
The Dirty Shire
The ask is for a young top 4 defenseman, and we know they like Carlo from the Landeskog talks, but that leaves the Bruins pretty thin on defense. I like Duchene and think a change of scenery could do him good, but I'm not a fan of trading Carlo.