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PedroSpecialK

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Perhaps B's can get Chara to agree to a wink-wink deal where he agrees to waive the NMC for draft purposes then bs give him a 2 yr ext post draft with nmc.

Can that be done? Don't see any way LV takes a 40yo with 1 yr on contract.

Otherwise it is going to suck when we lose C Miller because we had to protect Backes who is already overpaid.
I thought about this yesterday, but what's to stop LV from picking him and immediately dealing him for futures to a contender?
 

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I thought about this yesterday, but what's to stop LV from picking him and immediately dealing him for futures to a contender?
This would absolutely happen.

Edit: Also, it's unnecessary. The Bruins can offer stuff to Vegas in exchange for not taking a player they want to keep (or in exchange for drafting a player they want to lose: "If you draft McQuaid, we will give you X for a conditional 7th, where the pick is transferred to use of McQuaid finished top 3 in the Norris voting"). If they are inclined to deal, they should do something like that.
 

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Exposing Krejci and protecting 4 D would make a lot of sense. I don't think Vegas would take him anyway
I think you're underselling how bad the majority of the players Vegas is going to have available to them are going to be. Every team is doing the same thing we're doing - trying to manage anything of even nominal value under the protection window, or they'll trade them for something of value rather than lose them for nothing. If Krejci is available, he'll be the most marketable pick Vegas will have available to them. Krejci knows this, so unless he has a major gambling addiction we don't know about, no chance he waives.

The players with NMCs aren't going to expose themselves and potentially have to uproot their lives to do the Bs a solid. They are what they are. Sucks, because last season nobody would be pining for Killer but he made some strides into being a solid D man. Still, hes the guy on the chopping block if it comes down to it, and I'd rather he get traded to some up and coming team in desperate need of D who may have room to protect him.
 

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This would absolutely happen.

Edit: Also, it's unnecessary. The Bruins can offer stuff to Vegas in exchange for not taking a player they want to keep (or in exchange for drafting a player they want to lose: "If you draft McQuaid, we will give you X for a conditional 7th, where the pick is transferred to use of McQuaid finished top 3 in the Norris voting"). If they are inclined to deal, they should do something like that.
The challenge there is that if I'm LV I'm probably looking for a first round pick+ in exchange for taking anyone not named Miller.
My gut says C Miller is the one left unprotected given he was scratched a few times down the stretch and their was smoke around the trade deadline that he was available. Not to mention he will cost more to keep long-term than K Miller.

If I'm Vegas I'd be asking for a ransom to turn down one of the best D by advanced metrics this season.
 

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Wouldn't the best play here be to trade Colin Miller to a team that can protect a defenseman. Preferably a team that is having a similar problem with a winger?
 

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I am perusing around the cap friendly expansion draft tool and I don't really see any team with forward problems. Most teams are going to use the 7-3-1 option and it's tough to find someone whose 8th forward is worth Miller and also has an extra D protection spot available. The teams with protection problems are in the same boat as the Bruins with extra D.
 

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They wouldn't trade for C. Miller because they already have three D to protect but is there a deal to be had with the Jackets for one of their forwards like Dubinsky or Foligno who they would otherwise be forced to protect due to their NMC?
 

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I am perusing around the cap friendly expansion draft tool and I don't really see any team with forward problems. Most teams are going to use the 7-3-1 option and it's tough to find someone whose 8th forward is worth Miller and also has an extra D protection spot available. The teams with protection problems are in the same boat as the Bruins with extra D.
Are there any teams that will go 8-1 to protect a 4th defenseman?

Edit: Nevermind, such a team would not be looking to
Trade for Colin
 

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Sweeney/Cassidy year end press conference underway...

- Sweeney wants to get deeper and more talented.
- Haven't told any UFA's or RFA's of their intentions.
- Rode Rask too hard in the middle of the year (3rd year in a row we've heard that....)
- Likely using 7-3-1 format for expansion
- Scott Bradley will run the draft.
- Pastrnak going to worlds too.
- B's want Bjork, Bjork is undecided.
 
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PedroSpecialK

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I don't have delusions of netting Silfverberg from Anaheim, I think they move someone around and buy Bieksa out for $1.33m per for two years - the buyout window opens earlier of June 15 or 48 hours after SCF are over, so pre-expansion draft.

The clearest fit in terms of a team with an extra forward for me is Columbus. They are likely to protect:

F: Dubinsky (NMC), Hartnell (NMC), Foligno (NMC), Saad, Atkinson, Wennberg, one of Jenner / Anderson
D: Jones, Savard, Murray
G: Bobrovsky (NMC)

If there's a way to swing a move for the other of Jenner/Anderson + Savard for C. Miller, picks + futures (and/or NHL roster guys who don't need protection), I'd be all over that.

From a Bruins standpoint, I don't think it's wise to buy out Hayes. Sending him down would have him cost $1.25m against the cap for his final year, and they'd still have room to buy out Beleskey after next season (they wouldn't be able to if Hayes was bought out, since that combined with Seidenberg's buyout puts them at the max of 2)
 

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I am perusing around the cap friendly expansion draft tool and I don't really see any team with forward problems. Most teams are going to use the 7-3-1 option and it's tough to find someone whose 8th forward is worth Miller and also has an extra D protection spot available. The teams with protection problems are in the same boat as the Bruins with extra D.
Some teams won't be able to protect anywhere close to 7 forwards because they need to expose at least 2 meeting contract and games played requirements.

edit: nvm, these teams obviously won't be wanting to get rid of forwards
 
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Eddie Jurak

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Some teams won't be able to protect anywhere close to 7 forwards because they need to expose at least 2 meeting contract and games played requirements.

edit: nvm, these teams obviously won't be wanting to get rid of forwards
This is interesting. Are there any teams out there that would be willing/able to take a financial hit to procure an exposable player (Hayes)?
 

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This is interesting. Are there any teams out there that would be willing/able to take a financial hit to procure an exposable player (Hayes)?
I'd imagine teams would just re-sign their versions of Dominic Moore types before the expansion draft rather than take on another teams' stinker.
 

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This Cassidy interview on T&R is amazing. He's actually talking and answering questions and giving details. I don't even want to try to recap it but you owe it to yourself to try to find it online later. I imagine it'd be posted pretty prominently on 98.5's web site.

*swoon*
 

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lol. They tried to end it and gave a "hope we can do it again" and he said "happy to do it" and then talked for another couple minutes.
Amazing interview.
 

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Just listened and Spooner keeps getting napalmed. Sounds like a guy who needs to have something click or else he's going to be one of those classic tweeners.

Also had interesting comments on C. Miller regressing towards the end of the year. Had great things to say about McAvoy and Carlo, especially on McAvoy. Damn he sounds high on him.

His rundown of the young guys around the 11 minute mark is a great listen.
 

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The rundown was more honesty than most coaches ever will tell you. I was really impressed at the detail he went in to.
 

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I happened to be looking at year-end stats, and noticed that Marchand led the B's in 5 categories - Goals (39), Assists (46), Points (85), plus/minus (+18), and PM (81).
Has that ever happened before?

Likely not in the "enforcer era" of the 70's or 80's where every team had at least one goon.
And I think they only started tracking plus/minus around expansion time (maybe Howe would qualify, though I'm sure the old Detroit teams had goons as well).
 

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I happened to be looking at year-end stats, and noticed that Marchand led the B's in 5 categories - Goals (39), Assists (46), Points (85), plus/minus (+18), and PM (81).
Has that ever happened before?

Likely not in the "enforcer era" of the 70's or 80's where every team had at least one goon.
And I think they only started tracking plus/minus around expansion time (maybe Howe would qualify, though I'm sure the old Detroit teams had goons as well).
Speaking of plus/minus, go back and check out Bobby Orr's ratings some time.
 

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Neely came close a couple times but Lyndon Byers seemed to get him in PIMs and Bourque had him in +/-. O'Reilly was close in the 1977/78 season but lost out in goals and +/- by decent margins.