You think he's gonna be better than Anthony Davis or Towns?Second best?
Obviously a guess, but I'd take him ahead of both (barring injury). I'm reading a fair amount into how much he's improved just from the start of this season already. He's already 22, but still a rookie, so I'm guessing his growth curve is still pretty steep from just actually playing games.You think he's gonna be better than Anthony Davis or Towns?
Quick segway. It hasn't been discussed on this board but at CelticsNuts I've been drooling for months at the leap Zizic is taking at age 19 both in his ball skills and physicals. He is going to be an impact rotational player for us out of the block next year. I'm legitimately giddy about him.Nah, it was just a joke about the deferred Zizic takeover, or as I like to call it (as of right now, anyway), "Upping the Ante: 2018". Maybe the spoiler didn't show up posting from my phone.
Though it does raise an interesting question: going forward, assuming a healthy Process, who do you choose between him, Davis and KAT?
I realize Zizic is going to be ready for the NBA next year. No way they stash him another year to delay his clock, right?Quick segway. It hasn't been discussed on this board but at CelticsNuts I've been drooling for months at the leap Zizic is taking at age 19 both in his ball skills and physicals. He is going to be an impact rotational player for us out of the block next year. I'm legitimately giddy about him.
Doesn't look like it.I realize Zizic is going to be ready for the NBA next year. No way they stash him another year to delay his clock, right?
I'd have to say no chance. He's at worst ready to assume backup minutes much like Jokic did immediately upon entering the league. Here's hoping for a similar leap for Zizic. I still wanted Ainge to draft BOTH Z-Bigs.....Zizic and Zubac (over Yabu) so we'll see how that plays out.I realize Zizic is going to be ready for the NBA next year. No way they stash him another year to delay his clock, right?
Admittedly the new group are all still very young, but it's interesting that the earlier group you cite all won a ton of games, whereas the new group doesn't seem to have much connection to winning yet. This is certainly partly because of their youth, but also shows how much the game has changed, with Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson playing the 5 at crunch time for the best teams in the league (Green is awesome but hardly a traditional 5).There are so many great big men in the game right now it's almost reminiscent of the 80-90's with Shaq, Mourning, Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Parrish, etc.
Remember that all of the older guys listed in the post above had played either 3 or 4 seasons of high level college basketball competing against other 3-4 year college players without the one and done rule. So when you say todays guys are young it very true in that they are REALLY young compared to that other group.Admittedly the new group are all still very young, but it's interesting that the earlier group you cite all won a ton of games, whereas the new group doesn't seem to have much connection to winning yet. This is certainly partly because of their youth, but also shows how much the game has changed, with Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson playing the 5 at crunch time for the best teams in the league (Green is awesome but hardly a traditional 5).
How the kings through in a pick swap and a pick with zero protection on a salary dump and now sauce is actually worth a roster spot too!
The Lakers, however, look bad. At some point it's going to be worth them tanking to save their top 3 protected pick I would guess, despite what they have said.
The answer is really simple if you think about it (in many cases anyway). If a GM is on the hot seat and needs to impact his team immediately the trading partners are well aware of this and recognize the leverage that they have in demanding the pick come with no protection. For the GM, if the deal doesn't bring the desired immediate result he's not likely to be around when that draft pick is made anyway. Many times the fault should be on the owner who approves the deal recognizing that his GM is making the trade with his own best interests in mind and not the best interests of the basketball team.Well, not only Rondo, they were trying to get Wes Matthews and his single bad Achilles. Hey! He could have helped Rudy Gay if they were teammates today. And after that fell through it was Monta they were after, none worth what they did of course.
That trade is unbelievable for any reason to make it. King and the Nets did get KG, Pierce, Terry and a couple picks back. But Sacramento isn't looking to be giving up a possible first overall pick here, like the Nets may be.
The LAC/CLE Baron Davis trade which got Cleveland Kyrie has to be one of the worst ever outcomes, and you would think no one would ever trade a true unprotected pick after that, then along game Billy and Vlade, I guess...
Crazy... I don't know why any GM would trade a first round pick without the simple protection from it being traded if it is a top two pick. It would be understandable if Danny would trade the Nets pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler. But if he traded the Memphis pick to Orlando for Biyambo, or any move like that, there would be an automatic top three protection on it one would think, no questions asked.
The crazy thing here is that for years when I lived in NC and saw Gerald play his "prime" years live and in person I was certain that he was the most overrated player in the league. A nice second unit guy or a Crowder role playing type with a starting unit.....but in Charlotte the ball went through him on offense as they had few if any players who could create their own shot and most years he didn't defend the opponents top wing scorer. That was left to the Bogans, Diaw, and others depending on the season. The only year I recall when he did defend the opponents best scorer was the year they had Adam Morrison and Walter Herrmann at the forward positions with him where he was forced to.Billy King trading what became the Lillard pick for the right to overpay over-the-hill Gerald Wallace was maybe worse than any of them, at least if you consider each trade at the moment it was made. As mentioned, the KG trade fulfilled its (horribly misguided) purpose and you could hypothetically imagine the Nets maybe staying relevant through the delivery of these picks. Wallace, though, was instantly an insane desperation move to give up a lotto pick (to be fair the top 3 protection was downright savvy by BK standards) for a useless player.
I remember many at the time wishing we had sent them Pierce for that pick.
You can't look at it like that. You have to look at it as the team being what it is (going 2 for 2 on the road on back to back nights without Embiid makes me realize that I have no idea what the team is, but let's table that for now) with Ben Simmons about to hop into the roster, and with, at some point, some great picks coming the Sixers way. My lackadaisacal approach to NBA fandom will allow me to hop right on the Sixers bandwagon while keeping an asscheek on the Celtics bandwagon AND always keeping a calm eye towards the Nets bandwagon. But right now, today.....it is hard not to be amped up by the Sixers. I can't imagine a better fit for the city of Philadelphia than Joel Embiid either.On the second day of a back to back with travel. No less.
I don't even know what to do any more.
I was expecting to add two high lottery picks. Right now it COULD be zero if Lakers tank and the kings don't collapse.
Of course then the Lakers is unprotected next year and there is still an unprotected Kings the year after.
I can't believe how fun this team is.
Most passes per game in the league (Boston is second)
Well I guess they are serious since Embiid played his 28 minutes.be interesting to see what they do today. Game got flexxed to national game vs a good opponent and Embiid is questionable. If he plays I think that's indicative that he'll play playoffs etc should they make it. If they hold him out, it means health first and more up in the air
Not bad enough for surgery apparently.How bad is a torn meniscus? Too bad for Embiid. I hope it heals quickly and fully.
Supposed to be minor. 3-4 weeks type. It's not clear if he had it and they found it when checking the bone bruise or happened at that time etc.How bad is a torn meniscus? Too bad for Embiid. I hope it heals quickly and fully.
Unclear, but I would assume until after the all star break. Which is a decent break and then see how he is after that.So are they just going to shut him down for the rest of the year?
I think it depends partly on how severe is the tear (obviously), but also which zone of the meniscus it is. The zone that has a good blood supply has the best chance of healing; unfortunately, most of the meniscus doesn't. Still, increasingly the preferred option among most of the population for a meniscus tear is simply rehab; that's been shown in multiple studies to be as effective as surgery. However, for an NBA athlete, the calculus may change. In the old days, they just removed a troublesome meniscus, then got smart and realized it wasn't as superfluous as some thought, as the incidence of arthritis increased in patients who had had this crescent-shaped piece of tissue taken out.How bad is a torn meniscus? Too bad for Embiid. I hope it heals quickly and fully.
Yeah he's missed 9 games already, so add the next few and the all star break. We shall see. If Simmons is back I could see the value in playing time for the two if they are both healthy.Ahh. So it is retroactive. I thought 3-4 weeks from today, which would bring us to Mid March. It would give him a month of games, not sure it's worth it at that point.