FWIW, over the weekend Nick Kypreos of Sportset said the Jets ask from the B's for Trouba was/is Carlo, Spooner and a 1st.
I'd counter with Spooner, Zboril & a 1st. Trading Carlo would be counter productive. Winnipeg wants the moon for him but I think this would be the best they'd do.FWIW, over the weekend Nick Kypreos of Sportset said the Jets ask from the B's for Trouba was/is Carlo, Spooner and a 1st.
Agreed, Carlo is a keeper. Make it happen Donny.I'd counter with Spooner, Zboril & a 1st. Trading Carlo would be counter productive. Winnipeg wants the moon for him but I think this would be the best they'd do.
I'd carry them.I'd walk Spooner and the 1st to the airport for Trouba - I'm sure they can agree on a 3rd (non-Carlo) asset to complete the deal.
I agree. Carlo has the most value of the Bruins D prospects. We can want to trade Zboril or Lauzon but they just don't have the value. For people wanting to keep Carlo, would you do the deal with McAvoy in place of Carlo? I can't see Zboril or Grzelcyk getting it done but if Sweeney did pull it off, he'll have won a trade!I'd do the Carlo deal right now. Spooner is terrible, and the 1st means little.
Sure, I'd like to keep Carlo in an ideal world, but I do that deal all the time.
What's your best offer? If I'm the Jets, Grzelcyk, Spooner and a 1st is insulting. While inserting Zboril doesn't quite get it done.Replace Carlo w/ Zboril or Grzelcyk and I'm totally in.
What leverage does Winnipeg have that they would expect to "win the trade?" They have a player that refuses to sign with them. They're going to have to take the best offer on the table eventually. I don't see a team offering more then the Spooner, Zboril & a 1st package. If they wait until the draft they're looking at getting back picks. There are very few teams that can offer that package and have cap space (and are willing to add the actual salary) to sign him right now. So unless Winnipeg wants to hang on to him until the draft and take their chances that they can do better at the draft, they'll take the best offer they can get.I agree. Carlo has the most value of the Bruins D prospects. We can want to trade Zboril or Lauzon but they just don't have the value. For people wanting to keep Carlo, would you do the deal with McAvoy in place of Carlo? I can't see Zboril or Grzelcyk getting it done but if Sweeney did pull it off, he'll have won a trade!
What's your best offer? If I'm the Jets, Grzelcyk, Spooner and a 1st is insulting. While inserting Zboril doesn't quite get it done.
On Trouba's value, I'm assuming he signs a 5+ year deal at 6M/yr.
1rst means little. This team, deal or no deal is one Tuukka tweak from having a top 5 pick. I am very hesitant to deal the Bruins #1 right now, that could blow up very badly.I'd do the Carlo deal right now. Spooner is terrible, and the 1st means little.
Sure, I'd like to keep Carlo in an ideal world, but I do that deal all the time.
Sure but what value are you placing on him for trading for him?Trouba is 22, let's give him another 2-3 seasons before definitively marking him as a inconsistent 2nd pairing guy.
He may never be what Trouba can be, but if he can be 80% of Trouba's potential, the salary difference more than covers that. If the Bruins had plenty of cap space that math would probably be different. I'm one who isn't sold yet on Carlo OR Trouba, but I'd rather watch Carlo develop on an ELC than pay Trouba for what he MAY become.I guess I am concerned how much of what I am seeing with Carlo is for real, but I also like the offense that Trouba brings. I don't know that Carlo has that same potential, but I love what I see out of him defensively and in his own zone. He has revived Chara in a way, and I love that. I just wonder whether he can ever be the type of player I think Trouba can be.
Not mocking. My only nit is that I'd do it in a heartbeat if I'm Boston, so WPG might not be as eager...Agree totally. If they're willing to do Spooner, Miller/McQuaid, the 1st, and some sweetener (2nd? Zboril? Other?) Trying to be reasonable here I think that is a pretty decent deal for both sides, no?
WPG gets Spooner and a pick and a place holder d-man and something else. They have to give by eating a little bit of salary in that place holder d-man.
Bruins get out of a contract and get a nice d-man in return. They have to give some decent talent and picks in return.
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I'm officially on board the don't trade Carlo train. Dude is studly. Never thought he would adapt this quickly, and he's already their 2nd best defenseman at 19.I don't want to trade Carlo at all. Playing really solid NHL hockey before his 20th birthday.
That looks like it could be a great draft pick. Don't know if he's a top pairing guy in the end, but he'll be a quality top 4 four guy for more than a few years I'd bet.
But who else would you package with him? At this point he's on his own... What a 3rd round pick at best,?Spooner is an obvious trade candidate. He's fallen down the depth chart to the point where he is a 4th line wing / PP specialist. I don't see a spot for him in the lineup when Vatrano returns, which should be relatively soon.
Spooner is young, fast, under team control for 2 more years and makes $900K. He should have decent value, even if he's fallen out of favor in Boston. I think the team could use a shoot-first wing.
I can see why you'd want a shoot-first wing, but I'm still not sold on the depth of the D corps. Vancouver has a couple of attractive young defensemen: Ben Hutton and Nikita Tryamkin.Spooner is an obvious trade candidate. He's fallen down the depth chart to the point where he is a 4th line wing / PP specialist. I don't see a spot for him in the lineup when Vatrano returns, which should be relatively soon.
Spooner is young, fast, under team control for 2 more years and makes $900K. He should have decent value, even if he's fallen out of favor in Boston. I think the team could use a shoot-first wing.
Doubt it. They need D badly. They're 30th in goals against.Does Krug, Spooner, Zboril, and a mid-round pick get them in the ballpark?
The Bruins offering this package is as insane as the Bruins giving up both Carlo and McAvoy.Carlo and McAvoy need to be kept. Spooner, Miller, Krug, Morrow and prospects should be in play.
Just for clarification, those are assets I would move in some combination. Not those 4 assets for Landeskog.The Bruins offering this package is as insane as the Bruins giving up both Carlo and McAvoy.