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WayBackVazquez

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Would it be that difficult to have moved this to another state, inland, on short notice?
Yes. If the only goal was to crown a winner and determine tour membership, sure it might be possible. But there are a massive number of logistical concerns related to fans, corporate sponsors, volunteers, etc. that make the idea untenable.
 

Deathofthebambino

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Sorry I haven't had a chance to check in. I haven't spoken to Rob or his brother since the cancellation. Figured Rob has enough going on dealing with the storm at home in Florida right now. He's got conditional status, but I have to imagine he's crushed by this. Just totally sucks all the way around because it makes it so hard to plan his schedule and his life as he won't have much notice on when he'll get into an event and when he won't, except for a few instances. That's always been one of the biggest hurdles for him and the other guys in his position, the not knowing. I can't even count the number of times he's flown or driven thousands of miles hoping to get into a tournament when he was like 1 or 2 spots away, or getting to a tournament as the last guy in, and then some guy like Jason Day decides at the last minute he wants to play in that event and Rob gets bumped, etc. It happened to him in the early years when he was fighting to keep his card on the Nationwide, and it happened this year. Or flying to a venue to try the Monday qualifier and miss, and then have to fly home, etc. It's just a really, really tough way to go, and knowing he missed by less than $500 because this damn hurricane cost him a chance to make up the difference. Just fucking blows.
 

Deathofthebambino

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I just texted with Rob's brother, and he's saying he has no PGA status this year. Out by $392. Totally sucks. Full Web.com status. Back to the grind, and a set schedule at least.
 

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Tiger pulls out of the Turkish Airlines event as well. He says his health is fine but his game is not one that he can compete with.
 

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I guess the question is how bad a round did Tiger have this weekend. As on Friday he confirmed he would be playing and then on Monday he drops out of these tournaments.

I'm of the mind that if he is healthy he needs to get out there and play. I just don't think it is going to be easier for him if he waits for Torrey Pines. I guess currently he has one event scheduled still the first week of December in the Bahamas if he plays in that one.
 

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I guess the question is how bad a round did Tiger have this weekend. As on Friday he confirmed he would be playing and then on Monday he drops out of these tournaments.

I'm of the mind that if he is healthy he needs to get out there and play. I just don't think it is going to be easier for him if he waits for Torrey Pines. I guess currently he has one event scheduled still the first week of December in the Bahamas if he plays in that one.
Well, he had to commit by Friday if he wanted to play and always had the option to withdraw after, so I wouldn't put too much into it. He probably was on the fence and decided it was a bad idea, for whatever reason. Maybe a bad round, maybe he tweaked something or maybe just nerves. (Never thought I'd say that about Tiger). He withdrew from Turkey citing that he owed the respect to the PGA for his return to be on Tour and he has the Bahamas event booked. I'd be shocked if he doesn't play that - he's the host and it's an 18 person field on a pretty easy course that he owns a house on.
 

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Don't forget the subtle "W" that's in there as well. That article makes it sound like some marketing firm has been given total control. So many buzzwords, so little actual information. Tiger will still own a golf course design company... I guess?
 

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Tiger's return this week appears to be a go. His own tournament, the 18 man field Hero World Challenge.

For the equipment nerds like myself, he has no official endorsements but his bag for this week is apparently TM woods, Nike irons, Bridgestone ball and a Scotty putter.
 

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Looks like the US Ryder Cup team had those before Barstool.

http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/18171879/dressing-part-support-tiger-woods

I found this to be a weird story, but the Ryder Cup team had similar shirts (Make Tiger Great Again) made up. On Friday night of the Ryder Cup, the players were wearing USA onsies and paid tribute to Tiger by unzipping the top to reveal the MTGA shirts. Mid-competition seems like an odd time to honor him, and that doesn't get into the whole onesie/t-shirt aspect of it.

Anyways, looking forward to watching Tiger tomorrow. He apparently shot an unofficial 2-under 70 in the pro-am today.
 

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Tiger's -2 thru 6, about to walk up than eight foot birdie putt on 7. He looks good. Trimmed down a bit, but the swing looks smooth. Only one shot you'd really call bad, he kind of chunked a fairway wood, but he had a bailout open to the short right and he birdied anyway. His wedge play and distance control have been solid.

For the equipment hounds his bag looks like this:

DRIVER and FAIRWAY WOODS: TaylorMade M2
IRONS: Nike VR Pro Blades
WEDGES: Nike VR X3X
PUTTER: Scotty Cameron Newport 2
BALL: Bridgestone B330S

And he drains the putt to go to -3 through 7.
 

Clears Cleaver

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His swing is marketedly better. Full rotation through the ball and releasing the club. He will be able to move the ball both ways. He really struggled to draw the ball with his last swing
 

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His swing is marketedly better. Full rotation through the ball and releasing the club. He will be able to move the ball both ways. He really struggled to draw the ball with his last swing
Yeah he didn't play a cut shot until I think the 8th or 9th hole today, was favoring a draw off the tee, which you didn't see him do a lot. Swing seems less violent and there's definitely still some rust - he chunked a chip on 9 and just blew a birdie putt about seven feet by the hole on twelve - but it's been encouraging. Frankly if he plays all four rounds and doesn't have a blow up at some point and finish way back in last place, I'll be pretty psyched.
 

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His swing is marketedly better. Full rotation through the ball and releasing the club. He will be able to move the ball both ways. He really struggled to draw the ball with his last swing
I can move the ball both ways off the tee as well... of course, I generally don't know which way it will go.
 

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He's gotten wobbly on the back. Driveable par 4 he yanks it into the non-hazard natural area (or whatever they call it); flies the green into a bunker on the other side; blows his bunker shot past the hole but guts out a long putt from the fringe to save par.

16 hits a nice tee shot, from middle of fairway shanks his approach into bunker; has to pitch out backwards, then flies his fourth shot well past, two putts for s double. Down to -1.
 

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It was fun to watch him again. 73 is disappointing given his first 8 holes, but probably about what you'd expect after a 15 month layoff. I wonder if he's ever had a round with 3 penalty drops before. It seemed like all of his misses were left. Not sure if it's rust or some swing mechanics, but at least it was a one way miss and perhaps something correctible as he plays more.
 

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It was fun to watch him again. 73 is disappointing given his first 8 holes, but probably about what you'd expect after a 15 month layoff. I wonder if he's ever had a round with 3 penalty drops before. It seemed like all of his misses were left. Not sure if it's rust or some swing mechanics, but at least it was a one way miss and perhaps something correctible as he plays more.
There was definitely discussion of this post round and they showed some video of his last drive on 18 (yanked into water), where they pointed out he was having trouble timing the rotation of his lower and upper bodies. It may have been a throw away line/excuse, but they also noted this is the first adjustable driver he's ever used and he may need to tweak the settings as he settles in.
 

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Tiger playing by himself today as Rose drops out with some injury. Tees off at 11:12. For those looking to stream it from work, the Golf Channel live stream begins at 1:00.

Seems odd they would send him off with a pacer rather than just play one group as a threesome. I guess they wouldn't want a threesome teeing off first though.
 

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Someone get Jeff Knox a flight to the Bahamas!!

I think I've read in the past that the player has the option of playing with a marker. Maybe Tiger just prefers to go alone? Twitter says he went solo for the final round of the Memorial in 2015 (shot a 74).

O/u on how quick his round is? 3 hours? Less?
 

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Someone get Jeff Knox a flight to the Bahamas!!

I think I've read in the past that the player has the option of playing with a marker. Maybe Tiger just prefers to go alone? Twitter says he went solo for the final round of the Memorial in 2015 (shot a 74).

O/u on how quick his round is? 3 hours? Less?
I was in the crowd at the final round of the US Open in 2006 at Winged Foot and Tim Herron was in last place. Because there was an odd number of players, he had the option of playing with a marker or by himself. He played alone and if memory serves, he finished in under two hours and was 9 or 10 holes ahead of the second twosome. (Shot a 77 and finished last.)
 

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Course not showing much for teeth today, but he's -7 thru 15.

Edit: and he immediately gets hosed on a bad kick on his drive and ends up in a bush.
 
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To follow up on playing with a marker- Tiger said he woudl've had the local club pro play with him if if was windier.
 

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It was great to watch. Even if it's fleeting and on an easy course, it was fun to get the glimmer of hope. The front nine yesterday he looked in control, but the back nine he left himself in some tough spots - some his own fault, some bad luck - and it cost him. He made some bullheaded decisions, like hitting driver on 18 or trying to drive the par 4 and it cost. Today he played much smarter golf.

It was still strange to watch him swing. His tempo and plane are so much different and it's strange to see him hitting draws and having trouble hitting a cut. He's slim - they said down under 180 after a recent illness - but he seems far more flexible than before and seems have more rotation even with the back issues. He's not as steep and he while used to finish high and not completely rotated through, today he was much further through contact and finishing with his hands much lower and closer to his shoulders as opposed to high and away from his body. He was coming from the inside more than he used to, which probably explains the problems with hitting a cut and definitely explains the different look to his follow thru. I'm not sure the new swing lends to the club spin when he likes it.

He commented that he went back and watched some of his early video, when he was first on tour and still working with Harmon and how he was trying to get back to that, so this should be fun to watch. If he can overcome all the injuries and a fourth swing rebuild to get back to Major contention, well, even if he doesn't get 4 more, I'm gonna be damn glad to have seen it all.

Love him or hate there's no denying golf is a fuckton more fun when he's good and in the mix. There's literally no one that doesn't benefit, even the haters.
 
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Rose has been battling back issues the past few months, leading to the w/d yesterday. Rose is a Foley guy and Tiger's back trouble started under Foley. Any connection to be made there?
 

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Rose has been battling back issues the past few months, leading to the w/d yesterday. Rose is a Foley guy and Tiger's back trouble started under Foley. Any connection to be made there?
I think it's fair to speculate that the answer is overwhelmingly likely to be "no."

When you hit as many balls as these guys do over the course of their lives - especially with the torque that pro golfers generate - it's not surprising that back problem begin showing up for them in their late 30s.