Week 8 Game Thread

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Whatever convinced them to put bad teams on these prime-time games is going to be defeated by the poor ratings. My guess is that's only a part of the problem but it's easy to fix.

So Pats, Seahawks, Steelers, Packers fans should get ready for a lot of evening games next year...
But isn't the issue that CBS and Fox won't let the NFL move all the marquee games to NBC/ESPN/NFLN?

There are only so many good games/ratings draws in a given weekend. With 6 time slots to fill (incl the Sunday morning London game), plus the number of teams on a bye each week, someone has to lose.
 

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But isn't the issue that CBS and Fox won't let the NFL move all the marquee games to NBC/ESPN/NFLN?

There are only so many good games/ratings draws in a given weekend. With 6 time slots to fill (incl the Sunday morning London game), plus the number of teams on a bye each week, someone has to lose.
Yeah, the fans, in that it forces crappy games into the national spotlight, which thus drives down ratings.

Baseball used to very much be a national sport in that the only televised games were nationalized games. While baseball as a sport is still strong, it has very much become a local market driven sport.

The NFL seems to be heading in the exact same direction, given that the Sunday day game time slots basically have the same ratings, but the night games are all dropping. People are caring less about watching other teams' games.
 

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Whatever convinced them to put bad teams on these prime-time games is going to be defeated by the poor ratings. My guess is that's only a part of the problem but it's easy to fix.

So Pats, Seahawks, Steelers, Packers fans should get ready for a lot of evening games next year...
They have to put bad teams on. Those good teams already have tons of prime time games, everyone but the Packers I think has 5. The TV contracts cap it at 6 per team, scheduling 5 leaves one open for a flex for each of the good teams. The problem is there's 102 prime time slots, give or take, and like six good football teams in the league, then various versions of mediocrity and dregs. They can take 40-45 slots for good teams, but they still have to figure out the rest. Plus they have the London abortions going out nationally, although those are pretty easy to ignore given time slot.

The Thursday Night game is just bad for the product from any standpoint besides a short-term money grab. I personally was happy when that went to the whole season, hey what could be better than another football game to watch, but there's not enough compelling product available to fill three primetime slots. Jags vs. Titans, hard pass, no chance Im spending three hours watching that.

The league has deemphasized defense for various reasons and we have a lot of dogshit quarterback play and dogshit OL play so what's left isn't going to be very interesting.
 

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Yeah, the fans, in that it forces crappy games into the national spotlight, which thus drives down ratings.

Baseball used to very much be a national sport in that the only televised games were nationalized games. While baseball as a sport is still strong, it has very much become a local market driven sport.

The NFL seems to be heading in the exact same direction, given that the Sunday day game time slots basically have the same ratings, but the night games are all dropping. People are caring less about watching other teams' games.
Agreed.

Not too long ago, there was one time-slot besides Sunday afternoon's two (early and late), and that was Monday Night and there were no byes.. So the NFL could say to the two networks showing those Sunday games "Hey, each week, there will be one game that we put on MNF that will be a marquee game. This will expand the pie as it might get non-diehard fans to watch a game who might later decide to watch on Sundays. That helps everyone." And the networks could say "Sure that still leaves each of us (meaning the networks0 with 6-7 games on Sunday."

Now, take this weekend as an example, between byes and alternate time-slots, CBS and Fox are looking at splitting 9 games total on Sunday afternoon.

And I don't think there is any "growing the pie" happening by adding games on two more evenings or by adding London fans (I am assuming that European eyeballs don't get counted by Nielsen).
 

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I understand there are limits to the primetime options. However, it is not the case that the worst few teams in football need to be televised in primetime, either....that's a choice the NFL has made. I suspect they will adjust this, and the limitation of max number for the contenders, to try and improve that one variable within the larger ratings question.

Part of the problem really is that they don't know with a lot of accuracy what teams will be bad each year (well, other than the Browns). There was reason to think Jags would be at least ok, for example.
 

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I understand there are limits to the primetime options. However, it is not the case that the worst few teams in football need to be televised in primetime, either....that's a choice the NFL has made. I suspect they will adjust this, and the limitation of max number for the contenders, to try and improve that one variable within the larger ratings question.

Part of the problem really is that they don't know with a lot of accuracy what teams will be bad each year (well, other than the Browns). There was reason to think Jags would be at least ok, for example.
But if they remove the requirement that all teams play on TNF, then you get into issues of teams having to play multiple times on TNF, which screws things up from both a fairness and player safety perspective. Then again, NFL.
 

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But if they remove the requirement that all teams play on TNF, then you get into issues of teams having to play multiple times on TNF, which screws things up from both a fairness and player safety perspective. Then again, NFL.
TNF isn't going away but I wouldn't be sad if it did.
 

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Not an issue any more in the two minute offense, but Cinci does a real nice job making it hard to unpack the pile after runs and it felt like Washington was fighting the play clock after every run.
 

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Redskins miss chip shot FG
A little longer than a chipshot at 34 yards. Nitpick, but they did run a play that lost a couple of yards to center the ball better. I told my wife about the icing the kicker TO and predicted that he would then miss. Also, the penchant for using sports phrases like the whole 9 yards, slam dunk, hit a home run, etc., in business, I would love to hear a usage of icing the kicker.

No TV of Pats game here :(
 

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A little longer than a chipshot at 34 yards. Nitpick, but they did run a play that lost a couple of yards to center the ball better. I told my wife about the icing the kicker TO and predicted that he would then miss. Also, the penchant for using sports phrases like the whole 9 yards, slam dunk, hit a home run, etc., in business, I would love to hear a usage of icing the kicker.

No TV of Pats game here :(
"Whole 9 yards" is a military expression. Something to do with artillery.
 

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I won't complain about lack of a bailout call, but Seattle should've got 15 yards + an untuned down, for roughing the passer on that botched FG.
I thought the same thing but figured I was biased

And how are the Browns going to find a way to blow a 20-7 lead?