Week 7 Game Thread

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The finish to the game was reminiscent of the infamous 20-20 tie between the Giants and the Cards on MNF 33 years ago today. From the NYT story on the game:

In a poorly played game with an incredibly bad finish, the Giants and Cardinals played a 20-20 overtime tie tonight. The Giants apparently had the game won in regulation time, only to watch Neil O'Donoghue of the Cardinals tie the score on a 22-yard field goal with 54 seconds remaining. In overtime, O'Donoghue missed three field goals - from the 45-yard line, then the 20, then the 42. The 20-yarder, the equivalent of an extra point, came with 66 seconds remaining in overtime. The 42-yarder came with 25 seconds left. The game lasted more than four hours, and when it ended many of the remaining fans from the 45,630 who turned out at Busch Memorial Stadium booed the Cardinals.


http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198310240crd.htm

The Giants finished 3-12-1 in what was Parcells' first, and almost last, season as head coach for the team.
 

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I thought the Blandino comment was about the regulation Wagner play, where he grazed the lineman. Curious about the OT kick by Cards where Wagner did land on a lineman, essentially identical to the Jamie Collins penalty play. Anyone discuss whether that should have been flagged?
 

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I thought the Blandino comment was about the regulation Wagner play, where he grazed the lineman. Curious about the OT kick by Cards where Wagner did land on a lineman, essentially identical to the Jamie Collins penalty play. Anyone discuss whether that should have been flagged?
They said on the broadcast that because the OL initiated the contact it wasn't a foul by Wagner.
 

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Dean Blandino

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In #SEAvsAZ you have to land on the player for it to be a foul. The block was legal.

9:16 PM - 23 Oct 2016
NFL Rulebook: Section 3, Article 1 of the Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties:

(r) Clearly running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal, or Try-kick after touchdown and landing on players, unless the leaping player was originally lined up within one yard of the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped.
http://www.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/15_Rule12_Player_Conduct.pdf
His foot was clearly on the 19 when the ball was snapped from the 21 on the first fg and looked even farther away on the second.

I'm also not sure what "lined up" means in this conext. Is a guy in mid-stride considered "lined up?"
 

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Actually, I misread that, so he is good as long as he doesn't land on the guy. I guess I just don't understand how what Wagner did was much different from Collins earlier this year. I'd need to rewatch his I guess.
 

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The lineman initiating contact so not a foul doesn't ring true. I think that was just the commentator trying to reach for something.

As I seem to recall seeing guys not land on players but have enough contact they get upended and still get a penalty. But my memory is probably wrong.
 

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A blatant hold on old friend TJ Ward goes uncalled on a big third down Texans run setting up the field goal. Nice.
 

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Why does a 10 yard penalty offset a 15 yard penalty?

If the QB was down (and he is by definition), the play is over. Enforce both penalties.
 

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Wow, Kubiak less than 20 yards from FG range 37 seconds and a timeout. Intentionally runs out the clock
 

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Good decision. Defense is playing lights out, don't need to risk anything.
On the other hand, if the defense is playing well then have faith they will have your back if you turn it over. It's a one TD game. Try to score when you can.
 

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Rapaport is reporting that Texans RT, Derek Newton tore BOTH of his patellar tendons, and there is even more damage than that. Exact words from his tweet "as bad as it can get." Wow, don't think I've ever heard of someone tearing up both knees like that. Wasn't it Napolean McCallum (RB for Oakland) that shredded his leg in a gruesome MNF injury years ago, that ended his career?
 

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I don't know squat but it looks to me like Houston has been able to exploit Denver overpursuing to break off a bunch of good runs.
 

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Devontae Booker really sparked the Denver offense in the first half with some good runs on first down. They were able to get Siemian in a rhythm hitting the play action passes once they established that threat. Without that threat the offense isn't very good.

Denver D seems susceptible to the run.
 

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Classic NFL sequence. Bunch of commercials, then the game comes back on and a flag is thrown before even a single play is run.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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You can't even really blame Blue there.
Held strong on the first helmet to the ball, but that hit put the ball right in the way of the second helmet to the ball. Of course the ball pops straight into the waiting arms of a Bronco.

Way to stack the box and forget to set the edge, Houston.
 

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When did the back shoulder throw originate? I don't remember much of that as a kid growing up in the 80s.
The back-shoulder pass started with the 1980s Houston Oilers, claims Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon. Broncos defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio believes it probably first appeared in the 1970s with Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Harold Carmichael and his pterodactyl wingspan.

In truth, a weak-armed quarterback probably accidently invented it with an underthrown pass.
http://www.denverpost.com/2014/10/02/why-footballs-back-shoulder-pass-is-nearly-impossible-to-defend/
 

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Basically this dude is only good at scrambling up the middle to avoid sacks. Seems like a good investment of time and money at the QB position.
 

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Hate this team so much.
I guess it was too much to ask for this shitshow of a team to go to Denver and beat these assholes.

How in the name of Christ did this guy beat the Patriots last year?

Oh right; the game was in Denver, it snowed, the Patriots muffed a punt, Gronk was nearly killed and Denver won it thanks to a chicken shit call in the end zone.

And right on cue, a weird, funky, WTF turnover and Denver gets the ball.

Right.