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In more positive news, Vatrano finished with 36 goals in 36 games, and averaged like 1.53 points per game. Depending on what the Bruins do in the offseason, I would watch Frankie for a top 6/9 roles, and Czarnik as well potentially pushing Spooner out the door. Also, FWIW, Heinen apparently looked at home playing in the AHL. Should be interesting to see how Providence does in the AHL playoffs. They should certainly challenge for a title, IMO.
 

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Is anyone other than Acciari/Vatrano from the late-season NHL roster back in the AHL for the playoffs?
 

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Baby B's playoff run starts tonight. 5-game series with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins.

Divver has the lineup (11F/7D) as

DeFazio - Czarnik - Khokhlachev
Vatrano - Acciari - Griffith
Heinen - Talbot - Ferlin
Cave - Hargrove

Cross - Miller
Breen - Casto
Irwin/Youds/Bellemore

Smith
McIntyre

Heinen is the only newcomer to draw in for game 1. Senyshyn is also practicing with the Baby B's on an ATO for the rest of the year. Not sure if he'll actually play for them.
 

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I thought O'Gara might get some ice time, so it will be interesting to see if he can force his way into the lineup. I may have unrealistic expectations for him based on Kirk's musings though.

I do not expect Gryzlyck to play though. He's still hurt, iirc.
 

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I don't believe Morrow is eligible. B's would've needed to send him down for 1 day prior to the NHL trade deadline. That would've required waivers.
 

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I thought O'Gara might get some ice time, so it will be interesting to see if he can force his way into the lineup. I may have unrealistic expectations for him based on Kirk's musings though.

I do not expect Gryzlyck to play though. He's still hurt, iirc.
The Baby B's are carrying enough players to essentially ice two teams. I wouldn't be surprised if O'Gara gets in at some point.
 

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In more disappointing news, Providence was swept off of the playoffs by the Baby Pens this weekend, three games to none. Appears like their defense really struggled, as did McIntrye in goal. Vatrano had 25 shots and only one goal, next closest I believe had 11 total shots. Looks like Czarnik played very well, but this is a pretty disappointing finish for them given their roster and doesn't help any of those players' development. Tough season all around, and we should light fire to all of it in our minds.
 

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Meantime, the playoffs are over for Zach Senychyn, finishing with 2-7=9 in 12 playoff games before the Greyhounds were eliminated 4-1 by the Erie Otters in the second round of the OHL playoffs.

Jake DeBrusk is doing well, maintaining a point-per-game pace (6-8=14) in the WHL playoffs. They're down 2-0 to Brandon in the league semis, but they're hosting the Memorial Cup, so we know there are at least 5 more games for Jake this season.

Jakub Zboril is having a decent playoffs, with 8 points (2G, 6A) in 14 games for Saint John, including a better shooting percentage than his regular season (8.3% in the playoffs, 6.9% in the regular season). His Sea Dogs are even with Shawinigan 1-1 in the Q semis.
 

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Firing Cassidy after yet another Providence playoff debacle is at least debatable.
Is he buds with Cam and Don? Feel like everything I read about this guy is terrible and always sounds like he isn't doing right by our prospects.
 

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I figure the biggest goal of an NHL coach is to have a consistent system so when guys come up they are on relatively the same page. Basically you want organizational harmony. I know the B's were mentioned a couple years ago as a team that reached that. I imagine that's a combo of coach/organization specific but it seems to be a good thing. So if they're going to be incompetent in the department, I guess it's better to be organizationally incompetent. Silver lining or something.
 

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It is hard to get a full picture on things since a lot of AHL statistics (like TOI) are kept under lock and key. I don't watch them, but from a counting stats perspective, all of the draft talent has seemingly improved under him. Spooner, Griffith, Koko, etc. Acciari, Czarnik and Vatrano certainly had great years under Cassidy this season, so who knows? The only exception I can think of is Jared Knight but he just looks like a simple bust. I guess maybe the defense has been a bust, but he hasn't really been given much to work with.
 

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Is he buds with Cam and Don? Feel like everything I read about this guy is terrible and always sounds like he isn't doing right by our prospects.
Not sure what you've been reading, but I don't recall seeing much criticism on him about player development. To answer your first question, prior to becoming GM Sweeney was in Providence a lot. He knows Cassidy inside and out, and if he felt he wasn't on the same page he'd already be gone. I am sure that game rosters and playing time were as much organizational decisions as head coach decisions.

I've been season ticket holder for the last 9 years, so I can tell you there is a huge difference in the overall quality of player development under Cassidy compared to Rob Murray. A lot of that credit is probably organizational due to better focus on alignment with the big club, but overall I think he's done a good job. It's not like there are players flaming out in Providence that get a second life and are successful somewhere else. (Example, Jared Knight got demoted to the ECHL from a really bad Iowa Wild team - and hasn't produced there either.)

The 1st round loss definitely stings (especially since I have a stack of unused playoff tickets). The AHL format does suck, however. They finished as the 2nd seed in the divisional round. In the AHL the higher seed plays the 1st 2 on the road and gets the final 3 at home. That's not much of a home ice advantage. Losing 3 straight OT games sucks, but they were a couple puck bounces (or a ref without his head up his ass) away from being up in the series.

It's very typical over the last few years that they rotate goalies, I assume to get them experience. Presumably, they planned in advance to start McIntyre in game 3 at home. That cost them the game. 2 of the 4 he gave up (on 13 shots) were definitely soft. He had a decent April, but overall I didn't think he was impressive at all. You can't draw good conclusions from 1 AHL season, but he didn't have the look of a potential NHL goaltender. Smith was a far better bet in an elimination game. They also sat Colin Miller in favor of Brandon Carlo. Arnesson, Blidh, & Kemppainen also sat. I find it hard to believe there wasn't organizational input on who played. They were definitely tight through the 1st couple of periods. Czarnik was the best forward on the ice (Bruins fans are going to love this kid when he makes it to Boston). Koko played very well on the wing. Vatrano and Acciari were decent, but Griffith was invisible most of the game and looked banged up. Carlo was very hesitant to carry the puck early in the game, but as the game went on you could see the potential. Very good skater for his size who can move the puck. I'm on the bandwagon.
 

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Thinking back on it my feelings may just be residual Jared Knight stuff. Thought he was going to be a great, prototypical Bruin but seemingly every other time I checked it sounded like Cassidy was playing him like on the 4th line LW (probably an exaggeration). Of course, the other half of the times i checked, Knight was hurt but it's easier to ignore the bad stuff and blame the coach. I'll certainly defer to those who have paid much closer attention. It's also not like he has had a bunch of tip-top prospects to work with and ruined them or anything like that--the big club took care of all that themselves.
 

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Gold is the full season package. You can get 10 games for $190 (or $165 for upper level- which is still closer than the club seats at the Garden). You also get 3 flex tix and $25 of that back in team store credit. So basically 13 games for $165. If they make the playoffs you get those for free as long as you renew for the next season. They've always been good about giving you flex tickets if you miss a game. I end up missing about 1/2 the games I pick because of family conflicts, so I put the flex to use. I waffled on renewing this year because I missed so much. To get me to renew they tossed me an extra 8 tickets for next season. If you got kids, the meet the players and skate with the players are great events. The Dunk is a great arena for hockey, really not a bad seat in the place. Beer options have greatly improved over the last few years too, food not so much.
 

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I've always hoped Manchester could somehow steal the baby Bs. I would definitely be in for a season ticket package if they were up here. It won't ever happen, but a guy can dream.
 

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Mark Divver:

The Providence Bruins’ flameout at the hands of their playoff nemesis, the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins, left a bitter taste for players, coaches and fans. Despite the tough ending, it was a memorable season. Here are some final thoughts:
 

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Bump for the new season! NCAA and OHL play has begun

CHL

Zach Senyshyn (Sault Ste Marie, OHL)- 2 games 0-0=0
Jesse Gabrielle (Prince George, WHL)- 2 games 3-2=5
Jakub Zboril (Saint John, QMJHL)- 3 games 1-3=4
Jeremy Lauzon (Rouyn-Noranda, QMJHL)- 2 games 1-2=3

NCAA

Charlie McAvoy (BU)- 1 game 0-1=1
Jakob Forabacka-Karlsson (BU) 1 game 1-0=0
Ryan Fitzgerald (BC)- 2 games 0-1=1
Anders Bjork (ND)- 2 games 4-3=7
Trent Frederic (Wisconsin)- 2 games 1-1=2
Ryan Lindgren (Minnesota)- 2 games 0-0=0

That covers most of the higher picks. Ryan Donato's season hasn't started yet.
 

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Pretty sure Zboril got all 4 points in one game, including an OT game winner. Prety meh results so far except for Bjork. He started the season on fire.
 

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Pretty sure Zboril got all 4 points in one game, including an OT game winner. Prety meh results so far except for Bjork. He started the season on fire.
Is that really "meh"? 4 points in a game is pretty darn good. As is 5 points in 3 games, and 3 points in 2. And none of the NCAA guys have more than 2 games. It's a tiny sample, so I'm not sure one can draw any conclusions so far, either good, bad, or indifferent.
 

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Cam Hughes (2015 6th rounder, Wisconsin) highlight reel goal against BC today...


Trent Frederic had a goal and 3 assists in that game as well.
 

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It looks like it will be a long year for the Baby B's. Subban got pulled early in both games. Last night he gave up 3 goals on 9 shots, with the 2nd and 3rd being softies. Debrusk has looked OK. More willing to be a net front presence than I thought he'd be. He's getting some chances, but hasn't shown much finishing skill (admittedly small sample). Czarnik looked to be getting back to himself. After him and Mueller there really isn't much else on offense. The only guy that stands out to me is Anton Blidh. Sandpaper guy who I can definitely see as a bottom six guy in the NHL. Defense is solid for AHL, but I really don't see NHL depth there. Grzelcyk seems a little lost out there. I will give them credit for compete level. Both games I went to they fell behind early thanks to Subban, but the games were still entertaining.
 

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DeBrusk, Grzelcyk and Cehlarik scored their first pro goals last night for Providence. DeBrusk had been leading the AHL in shots, so hopefully the goals will come.

Trent Frederic had a goal and an assist in Wisconsin's W over St. Lawrence. Early on, Frederic leads the team in scoring with 3G 5a in 6 games.

Anders Bjork's monster start continued with 2g and 2a last night. 7g 9a in 8 games for Bjork.
 

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Any idea what is going on with Senyshyn? 9 GP 4G 1 A. SSS but seems to have regressed a little bit which is discouraging for his 3rd OHL season.
 

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He's had a pretty rough summer with the mono then appendicitis. I was kind of expecting slow start. to be fair, though, I haven't done much digging on his play so far.

Very encouraged by Frederic as the consensus is starting to be that he is more skilled than we were led to believe. I really hope Bjork gets signed this spring.
 

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Heinen had 2 goals, 2 assists and 13 SOG in the three Providence games this weekend. DeBrusk had a goal and an assist himself.
 

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CHL

Zachary Senyshyn- 17 games 7-6=13
Jakub Zboril- 16 games 6-10=16
Jeremy Lauzon- 7 games 1-6=6
Jesse Gabrielle- 17 games 11-9=20

Lauzon has a concussion, I believe. Nice start for Zboril. He had 20 points in 50 games a year ago so he seems likely to blow by that in short order. Gabrielle is on roughly the same pace as a year ago. Senyshyn had a 2-goal game last week, so hopefully he's getting back on track.

NCAA

Charlie McAvoy- 11 games 1-8=9
Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson- 11 games 2-8=10
Anders Bjork- 12 games- 8-12=20
Ryan Fitzgerald- 14 games 4-9=13
Ryan Donato- 7 games 4-4=8
Trent Frederic- 8 games 4-6=10
Cameron Hughes- 10 games 2-7=9

Frederic has missed the past 2 games with an injury. Bjork is 5th in the NCAA in scoring. Fitzgerald is a senior, Bjork and Donato are juniors so they could potentially be Bruins by the end of the season. McAvoy and JFK are sophomores but there has been chatter of them turning pro after the BU season as well.
 

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David Quinn had some of the more complimentary quotes about McAvoy and Forsbacka-Karlsson that I've ever heard from a college coach:

“I’m telling you, those two guys are studs,” Quinn said last week. “I don’t want to be overselling them because I sound like a proud father, but I’ll tell you: These two guys are the real friggin’ deal. I won’t be shocked one iota if they’re both in Boston (playing for the Bruins) in April.

“The Bruins hit grand slams on both those two guys.”
“McAvoy has just been a man,” Quinn said. “He was dominant out in Michigan. I’ve had three NHL guys tell me he might become the best defenseman out of last year’s draft.

“He’s just building on how well he played at the (USA) World Junior camp in August. A lot of the guys said after that ended that if the draft were done over, he’d be the No. 1 defenseman picked.

“Everybody makes the Doughty comparison. I’ll tell you: Charlie, he is physically imposing. He gets the puck out, he breaks it out incredibly well. He finds the middle guy on breakout passes as well as any defenseman I’ve ever been around. He’s got the ability to join the rush offensively and he’s got great vision.

“There’s really not a lot he doesn’t do. He’s grown up a lot; he’s lot more mature than he was last year. He’s working on it.”
“I wasn’t sure about JFK being able to step in (to the NHL) right away, but he’s elevated his game unbelievably,” Quinn said. “He’s been incredible in the first month of our season. He’s so good, so good. He’s just so smart and reliable. He’s picked up a half-a-step skating-wise. He really elevated his game.”

Quinn said the comparisons to Bergeron are apt. “They’re very similar, in their mannerisms and the way they play,” he said. “He’s an incredibly efficient player.”

Does he have the offensive upside of Bergeron?

“You know . . . he might,” Quinn said. “I think he’s got the ability to do that. I think Bergeron probably surprised people a little bit with how good he was offensively when he first got to the league, and he just keeps getting better. I think JFK may be taking a similar path.”
 

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I wish I hadn't read Quinn's quotes. It's like being promised something great for Christmas back in July and knowing you have to wait.
 

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Comparisons to Bergeron are automatically hyperbolic. In his own way, he's a generational talent or damned near one.
 

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I have been all in on the McAvoy hype since seeing his work in the junior showcase thing.
I am excite.
 

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Zachary Senyshyn- 17 games 7-6=13
Jakub Zboril- 16 games 6-10=16
Jeremy Lauzon- 7 games 1-6=6
Jesse Gabrielle- 17 games 11-9=20

Lauzon has a concussion, I believe. Nice start for Zboril. He had 20 points in 50 games a year ago so he seems likely to blow by that in short order. Gabrielle is on roughly the same pace as a year ago. Senyshyn had a 2-goal game last week, so hopefully he's getting back on track.

NCAA

Charlie McAvoy- 11 games 1-8=9
Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson- 11 games 2-8=10
Anders Bjork- 12 games- 8-12=20
Ryan Fitzgerald- 14 games 4-9=13
Ryan Donato- 7 games 4-4=8
Trent Frederic- 8 games 4-6=10
Cameron Hughes- 10 games 2-7=9

Frederic has missed the past 2 games with an injury. Bjork is 5th in the NCAA in scoring. Fitzgerald is a senior, Bjork and Donato are juniors so they could potentially be Bruins by the end of the season. McAvoy and JFK are sophomores but there has been chatter of them turning pro after the BU season as well.
Ryan Donato is only a sophomore. I'd be surprised if he left Harvard before his junior year.
 

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If McAvoy is the real deal, that would be huge. With the young talent on F the Bruins have, 1 or 2 stud defensemen out of the last 2-3 drafts (Zboril & McAvoy?) could set this team up real well going forward.

Maybe the future isn't as bleak as it sometimes seems.
 

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If McAvoy is the real deal, that would be huge. With the young talent on F the Bruins have, 1 or 2 stud defensemen out of the last 2-3 drafts (Zboril & McAvoy?) could set this team up real well going forward.

Maybe the future isn't as bleak as it sometimes seems.
I know, I'm already looking up the top prospects of the 2020 draft class to get an early fix on who these guys will be traded for.

Kidding! Though I am, as ever, confused about how I'm supposed to feel about the front office.
 

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My current view is they're weak at pro scouting, but above average at the amateur level. It changes daily, however.

McAvoy being legit, added to what looks to be a good player in Carlo, would give them a very good, stable right side for the future.
 

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My current view is they're weak at pro scouting, but above average at the amateur level. It changes daily, however.

McAvoy being legit, added to what looks to be a good player in Carlo, would give them a very good, stable right side for the future.
I would say this seems about right. If things continue to progress as is - they're hitting more than they're missing in the draft. Their pro talent evaluation is incomplete so far I'd say though. It looks like they may have traded high on Dougie, the Lucic/Jones deal is also looking pretty solid if Tuukka is back on track. But then you look at Rinaldo. McQuaid/Miller deals... it's hard to figure out what they're doing.

Backes and Beleskey is still too early to tell. Losing Eriksson for nothing kind of sucked. The Marchand deal was pretty awesome.

Who the fuck knows.