Paul Pierce announces retirement

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I wonder if he's playing another season to avoid having to be in the same hall of fame class as Kobe, Duncan, and KG.
 

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I love PP but he's a notch below retirement-tour level I think. Naturally he'll get a nice send off here but he's not going to get ceremonies in Charlotte and Utah, right?
 
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The Feb 5 game is nationally televised on ABC at 2 PM.

March 6th will be his last matchup against Boston. It'll be on TNT.
 

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I love PP but he's a notch below retirement-tour level I think. Naturally he'll get a nice send off here but he's not going to get ceremonies in Charlotte and Utah, right?
10-time All-Star (only 31 of them)
16th Career Games
29th Field Goals
4th 3-Point FG
8th Free Throws
37th Defensive Rebs
69th Assists
21st Steals
19th Points
24th Win Shares
24th Defensive Win Shares
23rd VORP

Those are some impressive career rankings. Don't underestimate the impact Paul Pierce had on this league and certainly on this franchise.
 

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10-time All-Star (only 31 of them)
16th Career Games
29th Field Goals
4th 3-Point FG
8th Free Throws
37th Defensive Rebs
69th Assists
21st Steals
19th Points
24th Win Shares
24th Defensive Win Shares
23rd VORP

Those are some impressive career rankings. Don't underestimate the impact Paul Pierce had on this league and certainly on this franchise.

He was great but the retirement tour should be reserved for inner-circle HOFers IMO, and Pierce is not in that category. Zero times 1st team All-NBA, only once finished top 10 in MVP (7th). Would Steve Nash have gotten a ceremony here?
 

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He was great but the retirement tour should be reserved for inner-circle HOFers IMO, and Pierce is not in that category. Zero times 1st team All-NBA, only once finished top 10 in MVP (7th). Would Steve Nash have gotten a ceremony here?
No brainer imo. Nash changes the way the PG positon was played and layed the foundation of freedom for the way todays stars dominate the game. Steph Curry publicly spoke of how he credits Nash for allowing him to be him and play his game rather than the old-fashioned predisposition they were forced into.
 

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The Truth is going out a Celtic. Paul Pierce plans to sign 1-day deal with BOS before retiring after this season. (via Sirius XM NBA Radio)
 

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Am I the only one who vomits whenever I hear of a playing signing a meaningless "one-day" contract to retire as a member of their old team? It's stupid and dumb. No he isn't retiring a Celtic.....he is playing his final season as an LA Clipper and retiring as a Free Agent. This annoys me.
 

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Am I the only one who vomits whenever I hear of a playing signing a meaningless "one-day" contract to retire as a member of their old team? It's stupid and dumb. No he isn't retiring a Celtic.....he is playing his final season as an LA Clipper and retiring as a Free Agent. This annoys me.
I can't speak for everyone, but I imagine the "vomit" reaction is pretty much isolated to you.
 

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I can't speak for everyone, but I imagine the "vomit" reaction is pretty much isolated to you.
Ok maybe vomit is a bit strong. I just feel it's silly and tacky.

Have your day the following season and all.....I'm super good with that. Signing a one-day contract to not play never made sense to me.
 

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Its symbolic and I like that he plans to show loyalty to Boston by officially retiring as a Celtic. I believe he is highly regarded around the league so his endorsement of the Celtics can only help in future recruiting efforts.
 

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Am I the only one who vomits whenever I hear of a playing signing a meaningless "one-day" contract to retire as a member of their old team? It's stupid and dumb. No he isn't retiring a Celtic.....he is playing his final season as an LA Clipper and retiring as a Free Agent. This annoys me.
Agreed.
 

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Ok maybe vomit is a bit strong. I just feel it's silly and tacky.

Have your day the following season and all.....I'm super good with that. Signing a one-day contract to not play never made sense to me.
With you completely. His last game played will be as a Clipper, therefore he'll retire a Clipper. Want to retire a Celtic? Sign here, play an exhibition game, then retire. This one day contract malarkey is meaningless
 

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Its symbolic and I like that he plans to show loyalty to Boston by officially retiring as a Celtic. I believe he is highly regarded around the league so his endorsement of the Celtics can only help in future recruiting efforts.
Yeah I don't see the problem. He got traded away (granted likely with some level of agreement), it's not like he left as a FA for a bigger payday or burned bridges on his way out of town. One day contracts like that are great PR as far as I'm concerned.
 

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You can judge something like this by the quality of its detractors.
 

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With you completely. His last game played will be as a Clipper, therefore he'll retire a Clipper. Want to retire a Celtic? Sign here, play an exhibition game, then retire. This one day contract malarkey is meaningless
So is an exhibition game.

Paul Pierce can do any god damned thing he wants.
 

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For all the good Ray did for us all I can remember is him shooting us out of a ring and being a traitor going to the Heat. I guess that's cynical and negative but that's the first two things I think of right now.

On a lighter note, here's the Truth dressed like Rick James last night.
 

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Yeah, Allen should have signed an extension so he could have been part of that Brooklyn trade.
Grin hits BINGO!!

Why the heck should Ray Allen have sentimental ties to Boston? He was the one who sacrificed his usage when he was still at the tail end of his prime to win a championship. Granted he was under contract at the time so when he does become a free agent Allen had every right to find the best place for him. He knew Ainge wasn't going to ride off into the sunset with The Old Three and protected himself as such.

He was a great 3rd wheel and a great role player here making some huge shots on the road to the title. It was a great ride and when the ride ended he did what was best for him......smart man.
 
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For all the good Ray did for us all I can remember is him shooting us out of a ring and being a traitor going to the Heat. I guess that's cynical and negative but that's the first two things I think of right now.
Not trying to pick a fight but I'm honestly surprised that's what you remember most about him. Did you not like him when he was here or something? I would guess most people would say the most memorable thing about Ray's time in Boston was his 51 against Chicago, or maybe his drive on Vujacic in the '08 Finals. I assume you're talking about his poor shooting in Game 7 of the 2010 Finals but he also won Game 2 of that series (by shooting an insane 8-for-11 from 3, a Finals record) and by almost every measure was the best offensive player on those teams:
  • PP -- TS% Regular Season (2007-12): .596
  • KG -- TS% Regular Season (2007-12): .575
  • Ray -- TS% Regular Season (2007-12): .606

  • PP -- TS% Playoffs (2007-12): .564
  • KG -- TS% Playoffs (2007-12): .532
  • Ray -- TS% Playoffs (2007-12): .574

  • PP -- Offensive Rating (2007-12): 115
  • KG -- Offensive Rating (2007-12): 113
  • Ray -- Offensive Rating (2007-12): 117
Plus, his leaving worked out perfectly for both sides: he won another ring had to hit one of the greatest shots in NBA history to get it, and the Celtics immediately rebuilt, got a bunch of picks, and brought in Brad Stevens.
 

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Not trying to pick a fight but I'm honestly surprised that's what you remember most about him. Did you not like him when he was here or something?
I did like him when he was here, a pro's pro. Not saying it's fair or right but the first two things that popped in my head was his disaster in Game 7 and his going to our biggest rival at the time. It's a part of his legacy.
 

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I did like him when he was here, a pro's pro. Not saying it's fair or right but the first two things that popped in my head was his disaster in Game 7 and his going to our biggest rival at the time. It's a part of his legacy.
The spot where I think Ray came up smallest in the 2010 finals was game 3 when he went 0-13. If he made just one 3 that game, the game might have swung to the C's and they would have had a shot, though unlikely, to take the title at home.

My first thought with Ray is always his evisceration of Vujacic. That was a thing of beauty.
 

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Grin hits BINGO!!

Why the heck should Ray Allen have sentimental ties to Boston? He was the one who sacrificed his usage when he was still at the tail end of his prime to win a championship. Granted he was under contract at the time so when he does become a free agent Allen had every right to find the best place for him. He knew Ainge wasn't going to ride off into the sunset with The Old Three and protected himself as such.

He was a great 3rd wheel and a great role player here making some huge shots on the road to the title. It was a great ride and when the ride ended he did what was best for him......smart man.
For me it was all the missed shots in the 2012 EC finals, followed immediately by going to the Heat. Where he then made a bunch of similar shots for them.

Allen could have come and run it back one more year in Boston. And worked out a no-trade clause with Ainge to control where he would go. That 2013 team would have been a little stronger with him, and Miami would have been weaker.

Also Pierce has said something about this, let me see if I can find it.
 

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https://theundefeated.com/features/ray-allen-was-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-nba-on-and-off-the-court/
Pierce said that he was blindsided by Allen’s decision and the news stung primarily because he was leaving to join an Eastern Conference rival. LeBron James and the Heat actually eliminated Allen and the Celtics in Game 7 of the 2012 Eastern Conference finals.

“That was a tough situation because we thought it was betrayal,” Pierce said. “That’s why the whole thing evolved like it did with us not talking to him. Ray didn’t really have the best relationship with Rondo anyway. That was nothing. [Rondo], me and Kevin, he didn’t have any talk with us [before his Miami decision].

“I tried to call him and I didn’t get any return calls before he signed with Miami. That was our rival. We were brothers. We came in together. We just wanted a heads-up or a ‘what’s on your mind?’ or something like. Then, all of a sudden, he left. That was the biggest disappointment on my end. Not even getting a callback at that moment.”

Pierce said he eventually talked to Allen after sending a congratulatory text after Allen won his second NBA championship with Miami. He said he follows Allen on Instagram and their wives still speak regularly.

Garnett, who recently retired, declined comment earlier this year when asked about Allen.
 

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Gotta say: I absolutely love that the other C's felt betrayed he left for the Heat – and still do four years later!
 

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Man, I shed a couple tears at the end of that game. Amazing what sports and athletes can do to your emotions.
 

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Man, I shed a couple tears at the end of that game. Amazing what sports and athletes can do to your emotions.
This. Definitely some tears. Pierce meant so much to me. Wouldn't be the ball fan I am without him.
 

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The David Ortiz appearance was the best. Do you think they even reached out to Ray Allen?
 

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That was really well done.

And I don't care how long you have been following the Celtics. His time in Boston and what he accomplished earned him a spot amongst the greats, if only because he had a steeper mountain to climb than most of the others.
 

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The David Ortiz appearance was the best. Do you think they even reached out to Ray Allen?
Not only did they not have him in it from a commenting standpoint, in the Celts championship pictures at the end, they purposely excluded him. Heck, Leon Powe and Rondo talked. I knew PP and KG were upset with Allen for going to the Heat but it's obvious they haven't buried that hatchet yet.

Enough about that. Simply awesome piece. He was so much fun to watch. Enjoy retirement Paul.
 

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Not only did they not have him in it from a commenting standpoint, in the Celts championship pictures at the end, they purposely excluded him.
The first Celtics championship picture (at 1:24) has Ray Allen front and center holding the trophy.

edit- and he's to the right of Pierce in the first picture, he's with Pierce in #2, right in the middle of #3, not in #4. So he's in 4 out of the 5 championship pictures.
 

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Not only did they not have him in it from a commenting standpoint, in the Celts championship pictures at the end, they purposely excluded him. Heck, Leon Powe and Rondo talked. I knew PP and KG were upset with Allen for going to the Heat but it's obvious they haven't buried that hatchet yet.
The 2008 team is having a 10 year reunion this summer and Ray is not invited. It was put together by Rondo not the organization.