Jose Fernandez killed in boating accident
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Dee Gordon takes the first pitch from the right side of the plate (he hits lefty), and then goes to the other side, and hits the third pitch longer than he's probably ever hit one before to lead off the game for Miami. Bursts into tears as he crosses the plate.
Jesus, I want to keep watching this, but I don't know if I can handle the emotions. Never seen a player round the bases in tears like that.
I just wanted to get back to this. For my money, Jose Fernandez was the best pitcher in MLB not named Kershaw. He may not finish in the top 3 in the Cy Young voting this year, but if I were starting a team tomorrow, the first pitcher I would take would have been Fernandez.
I wrote yesterday that we'll never know, but it's my honest belief that we may have just lost out on the chance to see the next Pedro. Shoot, just go compare his numbers through age 24 to Pedro's. It's no comparison. Fernandez has been better. As he got some more seasons under his belt, I think he would have piled up Cy Young awards.
Oh, and Pedro agrees. If you all want to argue with Pedro, be my guest:
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/2016/09/pedro_martinez_jose_fernandez_had_more_talent_than_i_had
"I saw a better talent than I was lose his life this tragic morning," said Martinez in his role as TBS analyst. "It’s really sad and I don’t have words to express how bad I feel for baseball, for him and his family."
The trumpet solo of Take Me Out to the Ballgame did it to me. Then Gordon, my god
This has been difficult to watch. Never seen anything like this. Feel awful for the Marlins players but also happy for them in the sense that the best way they could have honored him was to do what they have done so far in this game. This is truly heart wrenching.
Dee Gordon with out a HR this season hits his first. Bourn without a triple in his entire professional baseball career just got one. Amazing what these guys are doing.
I don't know if Colon intentionally grooved that 85 mph pitch or not. Regardless, what Gordon did with it was absolutely magical.
It's hard to imagine a team fighting for a playoff spot is going to groove pitches regardless of the circumstances. But even if he did you don't just hit a HR on demand if you're a hitter like that. The guy doesn't hit home runs. It was magical or spiritual or whatever special description you want to give it.
Edited version of the pregame
http://m.mlb.com/mia/video/topic/203293594/v1189251383/nymmia-marlins-honor-fernandez-with-pregame-tribute/?c_id=mia
http://m.mlb.com/mia/video/topic/203293594/v1189251383/nymmia-marlins-honor-fernandez-with-pregame-tribute/?c_id=mia
More than dusty here. Wow. The whole game from pre-game to post-game was incredible to watch. The emotions that poured out. The incredible class of the Mets at the end of the ceremony. The Dee Gordon AB, the interview with David Samson, most of the stuff FSFL showed and then the post-game around the mound. Truly feel for those guys. Terribly heartbreaking for them. They handled an incredibly difficult situation remarkably well.
That's the first time I ever cried watching sports. Holy shit that postgame around the mound was something else.
Pretty hard to not cry when guys like Stanton and Barry Bonds are visibly fighting back tears and Gordon is literally bawling rounding the bases after hitting his first HR of the season. I've never seen raw emotion quite like that at a sporting event.
So very sad about this. It was so tough watching the highlights. Not to minimize how his family feels, but a baseball team, a pro baseball team, is truly family. I feel so bad for them. Rest In peace 16, and I really feel pain for his teammates. Gone too soon.
And in his post-game interview, he admits he had never hit a ball that far before, even in BP. Pretty damn remarkable.
Heard it this morning. Whoever came up with that should be promoted. Beautiful and somber at once.
Yup.
You forget that there were other people that passed away on the boat that night. Just a tragic loss of life.
I agree with this 100%.
It sucks. My son loved watching Jose pitch and I feel like he's been robbed of something special while he grows up, like I was able to when Pedro was doing it.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/miami-marlins-were-reportedly-worried-205600953.html
Le Betard doing some early speculating and gossiping.
Le Betard doing some early speculating and gossiping.
Not that it matters much but after the initial shock and sorrows it begs the question; WTF are you doing on a speed boat at 3:00 in the morning with a pregnant girlfriend at home? The old adage that nothing good happens after midnight.
But unless and until we know who was driving and whether they were drinking, this just seems like a rush to be the first person to nail down the drugs or alcohol angle.
Based on my reading of the article, I'm guessing there isn't much of a "scene" on the water late at night; if there were, JF's desire to take a late-night boat ride wouldn't have struck his friend as a dangerous request. (I'm sure people hang out and drink at marinas, etc., but it sounds like not many people are moving through the waterways, let alone doing so at a high rate of speed.)
Aledmys Diaz, a fellow Cuban defector and childhood friend of Jose's, hit his first career grand slam tonight.
The article from yahoo linked above said multiple players did. I'm sure they all are fucked up about it.
Without a post mortem bac test, that's a pretty reckless account to report. But it's espn, so...yeah.
Well, if it's an accurate recounting of what is in the warrant, I can't criticize ESPN for reporting it.
They also aren't releasing the driver's name yet. And, I'm not going to pretend to know anything about boat wreckage or odors of alcohol on dead people, but something tells me there was plenty of evidence on board that alcohol was involved in this 3 AM crash....
And if it was reported soon after the incident, I wouldn't criticize them. It's been far long enough that blood tests and autopsies have been done. Report on what is known, don't throw around speculation, even if it's typed in a police report.
A simple blood BAC takes about ten minutes. Or maybe slightly more but it's not a full panel. Either way it's been over a month since the accident.
There's something a little weird about all this. The original press conference said no indication of drugs or alcohol. People died. The boat was towed. I'm not sure what the police need a warrant for, since they can search with consent, and I can't imagine why the current legal owner would refuse to allow a search. Perhaps there's an insurance issue? Might the families of the friends be threatening to sue the Fernandez estate if Fernandez was boating while intoxicated?
The "odor of alcohol" sounds a bit fishy to me. This was a violent crash - a bottle could break and spill on anyone's clothing. But then again, the original report was no indication of drugs or alcohol.
The timing of post mortem test results depend mostly on the backup at the crime labs at any given time.
Lastly, it seems to be going on a bit long for a criminal investigation. The police should have been able to pull data from any ocean-facing cameras, GPS, examine the boat, interview friends, look at social media/electronic records, etc. by now. Perhaps much has already been done and the article just isn't very precisely worded.
If they were drinking then by all means report it. I'm just saying I think that it's kind of irresponsible to report 'an officer smelt a strong odor of alcohol' a month out when there's no need for that unless you know it was factor. Ymmv.