Bryan Stork - Traded, Failed Skins Physical, Released by Patriots
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The head bob thing is a common way to handle silent counts. The issue, as you pointed out, was that Stork didn't vary the timing of it at all. And by the 2nd quarter Von Miller was getting great jumps. By the 4th, safeties were walking up to the line and timing the snaps perfectly (think the big Chris Harris play). He only had to look back when Brady was in the shotgun, yet he was still doing it with Brady under center as part of the silent count. Stork also had this same issue in the 2014 loss to the Chiefs.
I'll say that that strikes me of more of a coaching / QC issue than a player issue. It could have easily been corrected at half. I don't totally blame Stork on that one but he did have a propensity toward it at the worst times.
Yeah, it strikes me as the sort of thing that should have been handled on the sideline at some point, and if it kept going on he should have been replaced. Makes me think the coaches missed it.
Up until a couple of minutes NFL.com had him as cut - is their news feed just an ESPN feed at this point? They should be more accurate, but that doesn't actually seem to be the case.
it may have just gotten more cloudy: ESPN Radio guy in Virginia hinting Stork retiring.. no other confirmation yet that I can find.
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Chris Cooley @thecooleyzone 12m12 minutes ago
Actually stork is retiring. Huh? This just got interesting.
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Chris Cooley @thecooleyzone 12m12 minutes agoActually stork is retiring. Huh? This just got interesting.
So who backs up Andrews now? Someone mentioned Kline but is he any good at C or just an emergency fix
The consensus seems to be that Dante is down on him but wasn't it Dante who recommended they draft Stork?
It seems like most every year, BB has surprise cuts. I wonder if he purposely does this with a couple of guys who would normally make the team to scare the team and let them know noone's job is safe
The consensus seems to be that Dante is down on him but wasn't it Dante who recommended they draft Stork?
It seems like most every year, BB has surprise cuts. I wonder if he purposely does this with a couple of guys who would normally make the team to scare the team and let them know noone's job is safe
Thuney can slide over and play center and they can plug Kline or Karras in at guard. No he didn't purposely cut Stork to scare the team.
Doubt he would knowingly weaken his roster, and therefore his chances of winning, just to make a motivational point to the rest of the team. As others have pointed out, it's likely a combination of his concussion history, and his performance not being considered indispensable by BB and his staff. My guess is he views Andrews and others on the roster as better values going forward.
Well except in this case, many of the "character hits" on Stork (as well as other ominous signs, such as getting beaten out of a starting job by an undrafted rookie) were being made well before he was cut by the team.
Generally agree about Howe, although to be honest Belichick has built up a pretty high level of credibility on moves like these. It's not like the league is brimming with guys who were cut by the Pats and blossomed into superstars elsewhere.
It's really hard to pick up a good offensive lineman, particularly at this part of the season. I think there's a pretty good chance the take a young OL off of waivers as a potential Fleming replacement --perhaps someone who flasehd in the preseason (maybeJohn Kling (a Bears rookie free agent tackle) or Joe Cheek (a rookie free agent OL with the saints)).
I think the OL played pretty well in PS week 2. My bet is that while they've been hit by the injury bug yet again, they stocked way up, and like the progress the line has made under DS. Thuney, Kline, Andrews, Cannon, they are going with those guys.
Chris Cooley @thecooleyzone 19m19 minutes ago
Bryan Stork fails Redskins physical this morning. His rights will revert back to New England Patriots. Redskins get conditional pick back
Stork will probably be released immediately by us.
Bryan Stork fails Redskins physical this morning. His rights will revert back to New England Patriots. Redskins get conditional pick back
Stork will probably be released immediately by us.
can they even outright release him now since there is some sort of injury/not being 100%? would this be an injury settlement move?
He probably put the thermometer next to the light when the nurse wasn't looking.
Or his brain is scrambled.
Were there others issues besides the concussions? Even though he seems like an ass, he sure showed flashes initially.
Stork was not released with an injury designation so the team doesn't have to pay him a settlement and won't revert back to IR if unclaimed.
I am not sure on this. He passed his patriots physical prior to entering training camp.
This is sort of like saying your car could not have possibly broken down, you took it for an oil change last month.
If Otto the NFL agent thinks there could be a grievance, there's probably going to be a grievance.
In a sense, you're both right. The CBA has a provision in the injury grievance section captioned "Presumption of Fitness," which basically says the player is presumed fit to perform if he passes the pre-training camp physical. So unless a player can identify an injury suffered since that physical, the Club will take the position that he was fine when camp started, never suffered an injury during camp, and he's being terminated for performance reasons. The player will need to have a physician say there was an injury, it was suffered after the training camp physical (as corroborated by the other Club's physical exam), and it renders him unable to perform.
TOTAL GUESS: The issue here *could* be one about the disclosures made (or not made) by the player in connection with the physical, where (a) the player is now saying, in effect, I've been your starting center and I didn't make it past the cut to 75, of course you know I'm hurt, I aggravated condition XYZ which the team doctor has treated ABC times over the past two years, and we all know exactly what's going on here, and (b) the team is saying, in effect, presumption of fitness on July ___, you didn't disclose anything bothering you on that date, and you haven't been treated for any injury since then.
Player has only 25 days to file - so we'll know soon enough.
TOTAL GUESS: The issue here *could* be one about the disclosures made (or not made) by the player in connection with the physical, where (a) the player is now saying, in effect, I've been your starting center and I didn't make it past the cut to 75, of course you know I'm hurt, I aggravated condition XYZ which the team doctor has treated ABC times over the past two years, and we all know exactly what's going on here, and (b) the team is saying, in effect, presumption of fitness on July ___, you didn't disclose anything bothering you on that date, and you haven't been treated for any injury since then.
Player has only 25 days to file - so we'll know soon enough.
Yes - there is a certain framework within the injury grievance section that applies to concussions, which changes the arguments each side can make. An injured player pursuing an injury grievance on the basis of a concussion (or closed head injury) must be examined by a neutral neuropsychologist. Based on that:
"The arbitrator will consider the neutral physician's findings conclusive with regard to the physical condition of the player and the extent of an injury at the time of his examination by the neutral physician. The arbitrator will decide the dispute in light of this finding and such other issues or defenses which may have been properly submitted to him. In cases in which the player is alleging that he suffered a closed head injury or concussion with resulting cognitive deficit, somatic symptoms and/ or other concussion symptoms the report of the neutral neuropsychologist shall be considered conclusive with regard to the player's cognitive functioning and other objective findings as well as the extent of the injury at the time of the examination."
(emphasis added).
"The arbitrator will consider the neutral physician's findings conclusive with regard to the physical condition of the player and the extent of an injury at the time of his examination by the neutral physician. The arbitrator will decide the dispute in light of this finding and such other issues or defenses which may have been properly submitted to him. In cases in which the player is alleging that he suffered a closed head injury or concussion with resulting cognitive deficit, somatic symptoms and/ or other concussion symptoms the report of the neutral neuropsychologist shall be considered conclusive with regard to the player's cognitive functioning and other objective findings as well as the extent of the injury at the time of the examination."
(emphasis added).