I think that would depend on how the laws in Dallas compare to NYC, no? Plaxico did actually go to jail.
2016 Broncos Thread: Elway or the Highway
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Stupid is as stupid does, and Talib is all kinds of stupid.
If he lied to the police, that could be as problematic as shooting himself.
If he lied to the police, that could be as problematic as shooting himself.
The Giants, not the NFL, suspended him for conduct detrimental to the team. It didn't have to do with the law. Who knows with the NFL these days. I could see no suspension and no comment from the league to a full year suspension.
Schefter
NFL "actively" looking into circumstances surrounding Aqib Talib being shot this weekend, per an NFL official. The Broncos immediately notified NFL about the shooting after they found out about it, and now the NFL is exploring the determining facts behind the incident, the official said. One league source said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t like guns in the hands of intoxicated players, and he especially doesn’t like guns in the hands of intoxicated players who have a history with guns like Talib has.
NFL "actively" looking into circumstances surrounding Aqib Talib being shot this weekend, per an NFL official. The Broncos immediately notified NFL about the shooting after they found out about it, and now the NFL is exploring the determining facts behind the incident, the official said. One league source said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t like guns in the hands of intoxicated players, and he especially doesn’t like guns in the hands of intoxicated players who have a history with guns like Talib has.
He's incredibly lucky that he didn't sever some arteries or blow off his kneecap or something.
In any event, I expect that Goodell will soon be dispensing some more of his infamous brand of industrial justice. After all, the rules apply to everybody, integrity of the game, yadda yadda yadda.
In any event, I expect that Goodell will soon be dispensing some more of his infamous brand of industrial justice. After all, the rules apply to everybody, integrity of the game, yadda yadda yadda.
Am I cynical in that I expect he -will- unleash unholy punishment when Peyton Manning's legacy is not at stake here now?
Go figure, Texas actually has gun laws. Tough break for Talib as this one went into effect on January 1st. Could be looking at a felony charge, hence the "playground" story.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/aqib-talib-gun-law-shooting-night-club-shot-broncos-felony/bssauk8yg8p1c5jxt1o7t3st
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/aqib-talib-gun-law-shooting-night-club-shot-broncos-felony/bssauk8yg8p1c5jxt1o7t3st
Per Schefter's Twitter:
Broncos proposed 6-yr, $114.5M deal to Von Miller that includes $39.8M gtd in first 2 years, per sources close to Denver. No deal in sight.
From some other articles, it sounds like the years and total have been agreed upon, but the guaranteed money is an issue.
Broncos proposed 6-yr, $114.5M deal to Von Miller that includes $39.8M gtd in first 2 years, per sources close to Denver. No deal in sight.
From some other articles, it sounds like the years and total have been agreed upon, but the guaranteed money is an issue.
And any statements that he made which would tend to incriminate him should be dismissed as they were issued under Burress.
I had Aqib Talib in my pool of players who would be arrested in the offseason. Come oooooonnnnnn Texas laws!!!!!
Scott Zolak says via a league source that Aqib Talib is facing "a strict suspension" from the league.
I agree, but I think they are playing for a 2-3 year window and in a sense Lynch is more of a "let's see if this guy has any upside" play. I can't believe I am saying this, but if that defense is as good as last season then the Broncos are a Super Bowl contender with Mark Sanchez playing under center. While Miller's contract is borderline insane relative to other LBs, it is hard for me to argue that it could well be reasonable value.
Mike Klis @MikeKlis 10s11 seconds ago
Per source Broncos have reached agreement on four-year extension with Brandon Marshall. $10 million signing bonus. #9news
Troy Renck @TroyRenck 4m4 minutes ago
Talked #Broncos LB Brandon Marshall. He has agreed to 4 yr, $32 mill deal w $20 guaranteed and $10 Mill signing bonus. Well deserved
Per source Broncos have reached agreement on four-year extension with Brandon Marshall. $10 million signing bonus. #9news
Troy Renck @TroyRenck 4m4 minutes ago
Talked #Broncos LB Brandon Marshall. He has agreed to 4 yr, $32 mill deal w $20 guaranteed and $10 Mill signing bonus. Well deserved
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the 2016 broncos its simple the Def will Silp its just will they silp from 1st to 4th 5th 6th ie Seattle or will they take a nosedive 1st to 15th
the Offence has to improve but will it idk i think Sancez stat will read like this Good 18 td 12 int Bad 8 TD 10 INT
this 2016 season will tell me if Denver has a shot as team of the 2010's right now its NE 1 SEA 2 DEN 3 GB 4
Dream ser Sanchez plays like 2009 Oak is no better than 9-7 KC and SD stay the same Denver goes 7-1 aga AFC NFC South Denver goes 4-2 aga AFC West Beats NE Loses @ ciny goes 12-4 ends up in a three way tie for Afc 1 Seed with NE Pitt goes to AFC Tittie game Again Loses but sites the stage under Lynch to where denver wins the AFC IN 2018
Nightmare ser Sanchez stats 0-3 Lynch is not ready Simren goes 2-2 then kubiak says f it goes with Lynch they finish 5-11 6-10 IN 17 Lynch turns into a bust then elway panics in 2018 giveing up to Jax 3 ones 2 senonds and 2 third for Josh Rosen qb UCLA he is a softmore at UCLA
the Offence has to improve but will it idk i think Sancez stat will read like this Good 18 td 12 int Bad 8 TD 10 INT
this 2016 season will tell me if Denver has a shot as team of the 2010's right now its NE 1 SEA 2 DEN 3 GB 4
Dream ser Sanchez plays like 2009 Oak is no better than 9-7 KC and SD stay the same Denver goes 7-1 aga AFC NFC South Denver goes 4-2 aga AFC West Beats NE Loses @ ciny goes 12-4 ends up in a three way tie for Afc 1 Seed with NE Pitt goes to AFC Tittie game Again Loses but sites the stage under Lynch to where denver wins the AFC IN 2018
Nightmare ser Sanchez stats 0-3 Lynch is not ready Simren goes 2-2 then kubiak says f it goes with Lynch they finish 5-11 6-10 IN 17 Lynch turns into a bust then elway panics in 2018 giveing up to Jax 3 ones 2 senonds and 2 third for Josh Rosen qb UCLA he is a softmore at UCLA
4 days to go. I still feel like I'd be shocked if Von doesn't get signed long term before the deadline.He's a planet player as far as defenses go, and to let him go over some difference in 3rd year guaranteed money (when he almost definitely will still be on the team) seems to be moving from "driving a hard bargain" to "being domineering and reckless", and Elway has shown himself to remain firmly in the prior camp during his tenure as GM, IMO.
There isn't a way that Von Miller won't have a long-term deal. We did this song and dance last summer with Demaryius Thomas and it got done.
Dude got PAID.
Now I hope the D can continue to cover up for the QB clowncar. Paxton Lynch... Hope you're the real deal, bro.
Now I hope the D can continue to cover up for the QB clowncar. Paxton Lynch... Hope you're the real deal, bro.
i was real impressed with Denver first game the Def looks the same QB is a ? but with this def and pitt shakes start brady might be the only roadblock to a 3rd sb app in 4 years
now i need to see it 2 more weeks + the first 3 weeks of reg season
but if denver def holds teams under 20 pts on a weeky basis denver looks like a 11- win team even with sancez
now i need to see it 2 more weeks + the first 3 weeks of reg season
but if denver def holds teams under 20 pts on a weeky basis denver looks like a 11- win team even with sancez
The defense had incredible injury luck last year, no? Yeah, they're good but the only starters who missed significant time were Wolfe and Ware if I'm not mistaken. They only gave their 4th CB (Webster) 69 snaps all year.
So about that injury luck....not so much this year.
Vance Walker tore his ACL and is out for the season. He was supposed to take over for Malik Jackson on the defensive line.
http://m.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Broncos-lose-Vance-Walker-to-torn-ACL/0292b5ab-8912-4176-82e2-e9291a19ef21
every team is going to have INJ denver will likely only keep 6 DL'S Wolfe Gotsis Crick Kilgo S Willams and E Yardbrouh ? or V Dora he is a LB right now but i couild see him as a 4th DE
it looks like only Awful QB play which is very possible or OT Tacklie inj are denver biggest worry in 16
if i was elway i wouild cut sancez saves 4.5 mil sigh TJ Yates and then trade my 1st round pick to SF for J Stayle which would upgrade Denver in 3 OL Spots LT Stayle LG Garcia C Pardells RG Steptson RT Okukg
i am not counting on ware for anything this season Denver still has Miller Ray barnett and Z Anderson and if D Watson keeps playing crazy good u have to throw him into the mix
Crick will take Jackson spot now the Key is adam gotsis if he can flash this year and free up the lb's then walker lost will hurt but with denver abiliy to rush with LB'S and S'S they shouild still gets TO'S
Mike Klis @MikeKlis 2m2 minutes ago
Trevor Siemian banged his shoulder while trying to make diving tackle on Eric Reid's INT return. #9sports
He was just named the starter for this week's game as well but is not practicing today due to the shoulder ding.
Trevor Siemian banged his shoulder while trying to make diving tackle on Eric Reid's INT return. #9sports
He was just named the starter for this week's game as well but is not practicing today due to the shoulder ding.
I'll take "Dumbest ways to jeopardize your potential career as an NFL QB for $800," Alex!
Sanchez is gone simeien will be the guy i ex a very safe game plan aga car NE has a top 4 def and u guys shut car down at their house
if Denver wins week 1 it sits up as well as possible moving forward
Indy week 2 No V Davis who owns D Thomas in Den i ex Luck to suggte
Ciny Week 3 No Bufect no Tyler E if denver double green and forces hill and Bernard to beat them they can win even @ ciny
W 4-14 sits up 7 to 8 wins in a 10 game st as if the first 3 games go well Denver should be 8-2 in this 10-Game str
call me crazy but IF there is no OL inj Simeiem has a 15 TD 7 INT season and the 1st Sting Def stays on the field No Inj
Denver is a 10-13 win team i think 10 Wins is a lock but 12-13 wins would make NE and Pitt have to go to mile high again
1 Thing the media is undereasted is goddell Hated of New England if Goddell thinks Denver can beat NE and keep Brady from getting ring number 5 he will do it
the 3 Ploj Den L'S @ Oak @ NO @ KC
4 Tossups Car indy @ cin ne
9 wins SD x 2 @ TB ATL HOU KC @ JAX @ TENN OAK
if Denver wins week 1 it sits up as well as possible moving forward
Indy week 2 No V Davis who owns D Thomas in Den i ex Luck to suggte
Ciny Week 3 No Bufect no Tyler E if denver double green and forces hill and Bernard to beat them they can win even @ ciny
W 4-14 sits up 7 to 8 wins in a 10 game st as if the first 3 games go well Denver should be 8-2 in this 10-Game str
call me crazy but IF there is no OL inj Simeiem has a 15 TD 7 INT season and the 1st Sting Def stays on the field No Inj
Denver is a 10-13 win team i think 10 Wins is a lock but 12-13 wins would make NE and Pitt have to go to mile high again
1 Thing the media is undereasted is goddell Hated of New England if Goddell thinks Denver can beat NE and keep Brady from getting ring number 5 he will do it
the 3 Ploj Den L'S @ Oak @ NO @ KC
4 Tossups Car indy @ cin ne
9 wins SD x 2 @ TB ATL HOU KC @ JAX @ TENN OAK
Kind of an odd profile piece on Von Miller posted on ESPN today. I feel like the writer went in thinking they'd write this positive, fluff-piece of a story about how great of a guy he is - and certainly she stretched to find ways to do that ("Uhhh, his teammates like him! And he's overcome asthma! And he's pissed clean for three years! And he flew Southwest once!") - but by the end of it you kind of get a feeling that he was raised spoiled, is still spoiled, is always seeking the approval of his friends, and really doesn't get what it takes to be the leader of a football team.
The way it's written makes him seem more concerned with living this crazy bachelor lifestyle, growing his celebrity, and questioning marijuana laws than he does taking hold of the team and leading the way to another championship. At least that's how it read to me. In parts of it he doesn't even seem that passionate about football (such as when he told Johnny Manziel that it's ok to think "Fuck football!", even though it's probably the only positive outlet in Manziel's life, and how at one point John Elway questioned Miller's love for the game).
Just kind of a strange piece. It felt like the writer was asked to write a certain kind of story about Miller and struggled to find ways to do it. It'll be interesting to see if the Broncos regret this deal after a couple more years.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/17368084/denver-broncos-star-von-miller-new-contract-new-role-new-responsibilities
It's one thing to have a rookie or a second year guy talking about some of the things he talks about, but a LB that just got paid QB money? There's a level of immaturity that's still a part of VM, and I'd be a little concerned about that being paired with all of that guaranteed money if I was a Broncos fan.
The way it's written makes him seem more concerned with living this crazy bachelor lifestyle, growing his celebrity, and questioning marijuana laws than he does taking hold of the team and leading the way to another championship. At least that's how it read to me. In parts of it he doesn't even seem that passionate about football (such as when he told Johnny Manziel that it's ok to think "Fuck football!", even though it's probably the only positive outlet in Manziel's life, and how at one point John Elway questioned Miller's love for the game).
Just kind of a strange piece. It felt like the writer was asked to write a certain kind of story about Miller and struggled to find ways to do it. It'll be interesting to see if the Broncos regret this deal after a couple more years.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/17368084/denver-broncos-star-von-miller-new-contract-new-role-new-responsibilities
It's one thing to have a rookie or a second year guy talking about some of the things he talks about, but a LB that just got paid QB money? There's a level of immaturity that's still a part of VM, and I'd be a little concerned about that being paired with all of that guaranteed money if I was a Broncos fan.
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I like football players who are great but aren't consumed by football. Kind of like how Keith Foulke didn't really like baseball. He's paid to perform on the field, and (unfortunately, from a Patriots fan point of view) I don't see any reason related to what was in the article to cause me to be alarmed that his performance will drop.
Pretty good chance they will (just like there's a pretty good chance the pats will regret some gronk deal at some point, or the texans a JJ Watt deal)--so many things can go wrong for a football player that if you're playing a guy top dollar on a long term deal there's a very good chance you have a big ugly cap hit some year that that player is hurt of has they're performance drop. It's the cost of doing business but big money non QB deals often turn bad.
This is obviously ridiculous. If Denver wins this week, they are guaranteed to be 1-0. If they lose, 0-1. Outside of that, nothing is certain.
Is that really the case that there is a very good chance it won't work out? I'm trying to think of big money non-QB deals and it seems to be a very mixed bag. Of course, one's definition of "big money" can vary. When you look at OL, it seems like they seem to work out more often than not. Looking backwards (and in some of these cases it is hard to evaluate as you don't want to only look at the first 3 years I assume), you have Joe Thomas, Jon Runyan, Jason Peters, et al on the positive side of the docket, Jahri Evans kind of in the "Hmmmm....." side of the docket and I struggled to think of guys who really stunk as FA OL, but it's early.
DL is a different story, and I would agree that these deals have a huge "buyer beware", from Haynesworth to Babin to Seymour and beyond, buying someone else's pass-rusher or run stopper seems to be fraught with peril (I'm not counting Suh out yet....but he is circling the drain). Paying your own seems to be OK, despite Charles Johnson, though.
Secondary......tough to say. Would anyone (rational) say that Revis, Sanders, Samuels, Bailey, Jenkins, Harrison (although the last two weren't top dollar signings in fairness) et al were bad signings? Obviously, I am still going through Asomugha recovery, and Whitner sits in the "meh" at best category, Byrd has been a disaster.......but these seem to work out more commonly than I would have thought.
It seems like most teams have gotten onto the "once you hit 28 we ain't paying you" train with RBs, so other than deals paid for by Chip Kelly, I am struggling to think of big money deals that blew up. Arian Foster got hurt on his rookie deal, didn't he?
As for WR and TE.......this is a toilet. Dwayne Bowe, Mike Wallace, Victor Cruz, Dennis Pitta, Jordan Cameron...the list goes on and on.
LB seems to be pretty good.....if guys stay healthy. Cushing's deal is a ballbreaker given that his knee is Swiss cheese, Timmons is insanely overpaid.........but generally these guys seem to do OK.
This is very cursory analysis, so feel free to insert your own thoughts. It does seem like the biggest lead balloons in terms of salary cap are QB deals. Brees, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan.........between injuries and performance decline, these guys are destroying their teams.